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Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.27 10:58:00 - [1] Edited by: Splagada on 27/09/2007 11:03:39 By Francesca Colombo Every year in New Eden, some 300,000 drones and fighters are left on the belts by their owners. Eighty-five percent of these combat drones die within 20 days. New Caldari, (The Forge).- Upcoming winter time means a time of great risk for combat drones in New Eden. Some pirates leave without taking care for their faithful rocket propelled friends. And many leave their family fighter or drone on the street without a second thought. The problem has reached regional proportions. Each year, some 300,000 drones and fighters are abandoned in New Eden's belts or complexes. The causes range from the ban on bringing heavy drones to hotels, restaurants and other public sites, to the high costs of paying for someone to look after the drones. In C-F4PO, for example, a case of drone mistreatment was filed when a man left his drone locked in a bay for three days because he was going on fleet op for a long weekend, according to a report from the regional Institute for Drone Protection (ENPD). "In New Eden there is not an drone-loving culture. In the past 20 years the desire to have a drone has grown. And a three-member crew ship usually has a drone. But there is not a sense of moral civic responsibility. The heavy drones are seen as objects," Gianluca Felicite, director of the EC-P8R drone rights group LAV, told EveTV. Eighty-five percent of abandoned drones die within 20 days on the belts, particularly in drunk warps, which are also hullbreaking for the pilot. According to the Transit Police, in 2004 there were 754 deadly accidents in which the drivers tried to avoid bumping over a fighter or drone crossing the overview. Such accidents claimed the lives of 380 people, and left 9,978 in pods. Meanwhile, 280,000 drones and fighters are killed each year under the wheels of rats or smartbombs. Although New Eden's penal code calls for punishing drone abandonment with one year in front of Backdoor Bandit in the most serious cases -- such as death -- and imposes fines ranging from 1,000 to 10,000 isk, it does not seem to deter drone owners, and the problem continues unresolved. But drones are abandoned throughout the year, according to LAV, and reaches its peak (30 percent) when the farmer hunting season opens. The hunters put new hunting drones to the test, and get rid of the ones that are not up for the task. "It is an enormous problem, despite the campaigns for prevention and the appeals we have made in New Eden. Many people don't think about the responsibilities when they purchase a drone or fighter. They see a puppy and bring it home, but they don't realize that the puppy will grow up and will require care, walks, food, and pew" the presidents of the Drone Defense Association in the northern city of Trento, Leoni Enrico, told Tierra Eden. The abandonment of drones and fighters, furthermore, feeds a rather questionable business at private drone pounds and shelters. There are 990 public drone shelters in New Eden, where there are 640,000 drones and 1,290 fighters, according to the Jita Ministry. But these institutions are not sufficient to hold all stray drones. As a result, regional capitals opt to entrust this task to private centers. The government contribution to the care for these heavy drones runs from two to seven isk per day each. So 5,000 private drone shelters share 500 million isk in alliances and factions subsidies to care for the fighters and drones. But, say drone rights activists, in reality these private centers do not use those millions of euros to care for, feed and protect the heavy drones. "Abandonment is on the rise, but so are the private shelters. From June to August, owners have the most incredible excuses to get rid of their drones," Daniela Ferrari, a volunteer with the Metropolis group Drone Dimension, said in a EveTV interview. ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.27 10:59:00 - [2] Edited by: Splagada on 27/09/2007 11:06:18 In general, the conditions at the private shelters are not good. The drones live crowded together in small cages. Their eyes are often closed as a result of conjunctivitis, they have sores and are bone-thin from malnutrition. Too often they are surrounded by their own rocket fuel and are unprotected from the heat, the cold, or the piwates. They lack mechanical care, are mistreated, and up to 60 percent die while at the private drone pound. Hunger and lack of space makes the drones aggressive, leading to cases of attacks and even cannibalism. "It's easy to mistreat heavy drones. Many owners do so inside their homes. If someone wants to report it, Concord themselves convince them not to. The cases are filed away because they are considered minor crimes," explains Ludovica Lucia Ferrari, of the Association for the Defense of Heavy Drones(ADHD), in the northern region of Lonetrek. So please, think about your Drones ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Mallikanth	Posted - 2007.09.27 11:02:00 - [3] Tablets stopped working? A good read and made me chuckle in work. I lub my drones and would never EVER abandon them
Saint Luka The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.27 11:05:00 - [4] Edited by: Saint Luka on 27/09/2007 11:06:08 You take this game far too seriously. Edit: I take damn good care of my fighters :-( -
Boomershoot Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2007.09.27 11:09:00 - [5] This thread just made my day, stick it ----------------------------------------------- Forum Warfare - Rank (4) - Level V Forum Warfare Specialist - Rank (9) - Level III Armor Flame Compensation - Rank (5) - Level IV
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.27 11:57:00 - [6] ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Daelin Blackleaf No Joy Corp Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.27 12:03:00 - [7] A drone is for life not just for combat. Thanks for the chuckles.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.09.27 12:11:00 - [8] I cried a little. Send me your drones! I will love them!
Leiko Fuku G.H.O.S.T	Posted - 2007.09.27 12:15:00 - [9] First thing I read this morning...gave me a chuckle.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.27 14:01:00 - [10] heartless chucklers!! ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Jaikar Isillia Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.27 14:08:00 - [11] There are drones in my thorax that have been sitting in empire for over 5 months.
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2007.09.27 14:23:00 - [12] Poor drones! Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
Vitrael Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.09.27 14:33:00 - [13] Won't somebody please think of the drone? Look, ma, I'm posting in an epic thread.
benzss The Knights Of Camelot Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.27 14:44:00 - [14] i think i must own close to 100 drones
Caldorous Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.27 14:48:00 - [15] Answer me, you wrote that enterely from scratch? or you where "looking" at a news paper with some news about pet abandonement? -----------------------------
Haradgrim Caldari The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.09.27 14:59:00 - [16] I hear Michael Vick was just charged with running and financing an illegal drone fighting operation! --
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.27 15:02:00 - [17] Edited by: Splagada on 27/09/2007 15:04:12 Originally by: Caldorous Answer me, you wrote that enterely from scratch? im not THAT bored :D ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.27 15:18:00 - [18] all their rebelling makes sense in this light, if they expect to be misued and abandoned 1987.08.31 00:29:09 Combat Your Smooth Criminal perfectly strikes Annie, wrecking for A Crescendo.
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.09.27 15:31:00 - [19] I was half-expecting this to be some sort of whine about drone AI in general. I completely did not expect this to get a laugh out of me. Wins forums for the day - Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.27 16:49:00 - [20] Originally by: Tortun Nahme all their rebelling makes sense in this light, if they expect to be misued and abandoned i think we're on something there!!! they dont behave badly; they just had a harsh childhood ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
exxxie Debiloff's Vanguard Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.27 16:51:00 - [21] /me donates 10m ISK to the ENPD. -- Originally by: CCP Sharkbait you people make me question the sanity of the human race sometimes
Detritus Thermopyle Minmatar	Posted - 2007.09.27 19:28:00 - [22] A hilarious read! (and well worth the additional time spent cleaning the coffee spatters off of my keyboard and monitor.)
Frug Zenithal Harvest 101010 Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.27 19:31:00 - [23] If the little buggers would behave maybe we'd treat them better. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.27 20:13:00 - [24] I have spent a considerable amount of my career scanning out drones lost in space and giving them good homes with my friends and companions. Originally by: CCP Chronotis Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
Graharan Caldari Minmatar Marines 5th Column	Posted - 2007.09.27 20:13:00 - [25] Come on people, it's a BPO, not a clown car. Just because every Jane, Jen, and Ada out there with a BPO pops these drones as quick as they can doesn't mean that every BPO owner, or worse, those of us who lack BPOs, should have to pay for other people's mistakes.
Taedrin Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.27 20:22:00 - [26] I <3 my Ogre II's. I cry every time I lose one to ebil mission rats
acompton Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.27 20:36:00 - [27] and remember to have your drones spayed or neutered...
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.28 01:44:00 - [28] We all need to support the Drones Rights Movement! DRM ftw! 1987.08.31 00:29:09 Combat Your Smooth Criminal perfectly strikes Annie, wrecking for A Crescendo.
Barbens	Posted - 2007.09.28 01:56:00 - [29] G's...and I thought it was prostate health... BaRbEnS
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.28 07:00:00 - [30] Originally by: acompton and remember to have your drones spayed or neutered... When they breed it ends in a Domi ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.09.28 08:54:00 - [31] Originally by: Splagada Originally by: acompton and remember to have your drones spayed or neutered... When they breed it ends in a Domi Proof or stfu! - Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online
Drizit Amarr Lonely out here Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.28 11:06:00 - [32] Meh, only good for cannon fodder. If you can't tank a mission, throw in the drones, warp out and come back to pop the rats while they're dealing with the drones. They don't need love, they need a good hiding to keep them under control. I blame the parents for the bad behaviour of the drones. I bet dad was a rogue and mum was a drunken fighter. The usual problem, dad left when mum became pregnant and mum was always too drunk to bother with her offspring. As for TII drones, they're just yuppies with attitude. --
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.28 11:08:00 - [33] Edited by: Lazuran on 28/09/2007 11:09:48 Every time you roleplay, a little carebear dies. (but I agree, a larger universe has been overdue for months, if not years) isn't it funny how some people advocate both GTC<=>ISK trades and EVE being superior due to its cruelty and costly losses, when they use the former to circumvent the latter?
Karanth Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.09.28 11:09:00 - [34] Drones need love! Not just firmware upgrades, or to be able to shoot more stuffs, but also the old fashioned love. Drones do so much for us, but how many actually bother to repair them? Drones are just as worthy of being shield, armour, and hull repped as a gangmate is. I like to sometimes head out to asteroid belts, or deadspace, or even a random planet, and just let them get a bit of free time, just floating about. I find it makes them feel better, and keeps them limber, since being stuck in a ship all the time can be crowded, even with extra drone space left over. The end lesson is, think about your drones as friends, companions, and not just as guns that fly about independently of you. Respect them, and they will respect you. Free beer for those who mod my sig! There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth pushes the other mods out of the way Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips IT WAS ME, MUHAHAHA. -Hango How did I miss free BREE!!? -Kaemonn always fashionably late - Deckard Better late than never! -Sahwoolo
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.09.28 11:18:00 - [35] Originally by: Jaikar Isillia There are drones in my thorax that have been sitting in empire for over 5 months. This post reminded me that I have an Ishtar sitting unused with a full bay of Ogre II that I haven't used in over a year.. Poor Ogres.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.28 13:14:00 - [36] wow now thats mean FEED YOUR DRONES and you still wonder why the phoon looks all chewed? ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.28 13:44:00 - [37] Originally by: Splagada wow now thats mean FEED YOUR DRONES and you still wonder why the phoon looks all chewed? No no no, you have that wrong. The Phoon has such a large drone bay for a small BS because it actually stores its drones on the outside in docking collars instead of in a "bay". The drones are its first layer of armor. They just rendered the model for the Phoon showing it AFTER the drones are released instead of the nice, smooth silhouette that it has when they are still attached Originally by: CCP Chronotis Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Estate	Posted - 2007.10.03 06:56:00 - [38] Bump. This thread is win.

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