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Mighty Baz
HUSARIA
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: Mighty Baz on 28/09/2007 12:25:44
 
Boarding is used in wartime as a way to seize a ship without destroying it, or to remove its cargo (people or goods) before it is destroyed. Boarding has also come to define the action of stealing a ship piloted by one or more enemies.
for example:
Name: Thor
Hull: Celestis
Role: Boarding Recon Ship
Filling a role next to their class counterpart, the heavy assault ship, boarding recon ships are the state of the art when it comes to capture enemy ships.
Developer: Roden Shipyards
Gallente Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Ship Tractor Beam and 5% bonus to Boarding Modul effectiveness per level
Recon Ships Skill Bonus: 20% bonus to Boarding Modul range and -96% to -100% reduction in Cloaking Device CPU use per level
hehe, who signes?
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Ellaine TashMurkon
CBC Interstellar
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:33:00 -
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Boarding unfortunately doesnt work with insurance.
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Jahria Jaeger
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:35:00 -
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excellent tools focused on low skilled ppl ingame. Mini-profession
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LordKain
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.09.29 06:39:00 -
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lol, the best way to capture some titans
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2007.09.29 07:28:00 -
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It either bypasses the whole weapon/armor thing we've got now, making it the method of choice or you need to put someone into hull first, at which point the majority will selfdestruct when they see a boarding vessel.
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Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Helen Hunts
Gallente
Red Dragon Mining inc
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Posted - 2007.09.29 16:11:00 -
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Balance is the key.
On a frigate, the pilot can and does control everything. In larger ships, there's the crew to contend with. In both cases, a hostile intruder would have little surprises popping up in the strangest places (pilot making internal machinery activate/move at the right moment and crew with guns and more machinery) making for a very hazardous boarding process. I can easily imagine that such an activity could end up killing the boarding pilot before he gets to a point where he could eject/kill the defending pilot. In any event, a coarding attempt is going to take time. Time in which the boarding ship can be attacked by other ships in the area even if the defending ship isn't able to peel off the leech directly.
Boarding an enemy ship shouldn't be without risk, even if no shots are ever fired. (also, force-boarding freighters could be easily exploited to steal the entire cargo/ship intact instead of taking one's chances on what survived the explosion)
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2007.09.29 19:53:00 -
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Smart bomb and your ship is done for, also my crew will probably munch yours up considering its going to take time to train boarding parties then the skills to a far older pilot's crew would have. Then my drones are going to eat your ship alive as well. I would also self destruct my ship if it came down to it.
Also kill the ship tractor beam no need for that module if your going to be boarded also its a wasted bonus. Have the webbifer boosted instead instead.
Also Rhoden is known for missile tech your going have to pick another shipyard to build it from.
Celestis? comon thorax or the orenious is more fitting however the tech 2 celestis unused hull is the clotho escort cruiser.
The tech 2 thorax that is going to get introduced as the heavy interdictor is the phobos from rhoden.
Also kill the recon stuff. The more recon stuff you add the more the cloaks are going to get qued up for a nerf.
Also if it is a recon further reason why its going to get messed up, all your recons have paper thin defenses, Boarding ships need very very very thick defenses to get to the job and get it done.
Anywyas the idea wasnt to thought out and its considerably bad in the end when balance is the issue.
one last note, thor is a fitting name for a minmatar ship, gallente are greek and latin names in general.
also imo the boarding module needs to have the same range as the scoop range. That alone should be grounds for getting the ship slowed down enough.
And in the end you have to consider how fast combat goes most combat doenst last long enoughfor boarding actions anywyas.
so end result
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shady trader
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:03:00 -
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This has been disccuses serveral times laready and normally rejected as its not compatable with game machanics.
The problems are
1) Insureance payout are expliotable by stealling a friends ship and then trading it back.
2) If no insureance payout the cost to the player is higher then CCP want (base insureance payout)
3) how do you plan on breaching a pod, effectivly a mini starship capable to withstanding hits form starship grade weapons?
4) You board a ship, the pilot can do serveral things (after evacuated the crew in the section you are in if they are want),
a. turn of the inersal dampers followed by either accelleration or a sharp change of course. Result you are a stain onthe bulkhead.
b. Turn up internal gravity to 100G, leaving a stain on the floor.
C. vent the section to space leaving you floating in space.
All of this leave you dead and as you are not in a pod then this happens you cannot be cloned ( read the background for how cloning works). So you have to create a new character from sratch.
If you want the more detail version do a search for boarding.
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Ellaine TashMurkon
CBC Interstellar
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:52:00 -
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Why we have insurace?
So newbie who loose their first cruiser in lowsec have something to wipe their tears.
So peopla are encurage to go to dangerous space and risk, knowing they will get some isk to buy a new ship if they run out of luck.
Boarding = no insurance, prey does not get money because ship is not destroyed. Paying insurance would be so unbelievably abusable its not even an option to consider.
Since boarding is very profitable, it would be naturally very common. And so, loosing a ship in lowsec without getting insurance would become very common, especially in the cases most frustrating to prey - ganking that is, rather then balanced combat (in balanced combat there would be probably no time for boarding).
So - insurance would stop to have much effect in fact, and finally would result in less people in lowsec and more newbs leaving game after ship loss despair.
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Terazuk
Amarr
Rogen's Heroes
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.30 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: Terazuk on 30/09/2007 01:33:21
Love the idea... but many many many ppl would cry, empire wars would be rife!
Oh the chaos...
Anyone ever play Mech Assault 2... While using the elemental you could latch on to an enemy Mech and hack it, you would get a dialog that pops up and a sequence of buttons flash which you have to hit. The hackee(?) would have to do the same but faster in order to defeat the attempt.
Great idea but it would kill the game :(
Is Exploration Broken?
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Lost True
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Posted - 2007.09.30 08:37:00 -
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Well, i see something like that in Star Trek :) there need to shutdown enemy shield to use a tractor beam on ship and board it...But in Eve, not all ships actually uses shield, maybe, if we have some factor, that must be penetrated by enemy for a board the ship... For example, you have been scrambled and webbed in a large gate camp, pirates can easly destroy your ship, or take it, if they bring up that recon...:)
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Rytaran
Caldari
Executive Mindframe
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 13:12:00 -
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*signed*
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Mighty Baz
HUSARIA
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 05:34:00 -
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A tractor beam has been implemented so far. We've still waited for boarding modul or other solution like that...
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Slawomir Venera
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Posted - 2007.10.01 21:33:00 -
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here is a detailed boarding setup 
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=605361
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Mighty Baz
HUSARIA
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.02 06:10:00 -
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good point, but no any CCP reaction...
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Jahria Jaeger
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.08 10:25:00 -
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hm...maybe new frigs could do that, I mean below t2 frigates:
SPHINX, SENTINEL, HYENA, KERES
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LordKain
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.10.31 09:01:00 -
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anything more?
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Ilvan
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Posted - 2007.10.31 09:51:00 -
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Boarding is a terrible and pointless idea. Stop bumping it, it's giving me hives.
"Damn it all to hell! They just killed my maintenance crew! Now who will polish the bulkheads... oh well, time to depressurize all decks and crank up the life support to 'self-cleaning' mode."
I'm not even going to touch the balance issues.
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Gretix
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Posted - 2007.10.31 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ilvan
Boarding is a terrible and pointless idea. Stop bumping it, it's giving me hives.
What a creative and well thought out reply....
Anyway, boarding apparently has already been brought and subsequently shot down.
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Mighty Baz
HUSARIA
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.01 09:47:00 -
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it's best of the best idea for new players...nobody wants to be capture by noobs
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