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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:33:00 -
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As topic.
I was just wondering if many alliances lock their KB from public viewing on a semi to fully perminent basis? If so what is the reason for this.
I can understand the need when something big happens like a titan kill etc to stop the board being flooded etc but on a normal everyday why block others from seeing your kb?
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place?
Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag |
Elder Bob
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:33:00 -
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Only one I can think of off the top of my head is IAC. No idea why they do it.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:35:00 -
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I would think primarily it might be done to hamper intelligence gathering.
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Lowanaera
Amarr
Paladin Imperium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Mecinia Lua
I would think primarily it might be done to hamper intelligence gathering.
Yes. It also allows you to comment on mails in privacy.
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mecinia Lua
I would think primarily it might be done to hamper intelligence gathering.
Interesting. How so?
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place?
Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag |
Allistair Forsyth
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Elder Bob
Only one I can think of off the top of my head is IAC. No idea why they do it.
CVA as well IIRC. kinda lame IMO
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Baddias Mongo
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Originally by: Mecinia Lua
I would think primarily it might be done to hamper intelligence gathering.
Interesting. How so?
Because killmails state the location of where the kills happen, so a smart/sneaky enemy can use a hostile entitys killboard against them by tracking where they are currently active and so know where to find them if they are not time delaying kills.
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Ikar Kaltin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:57:00 -
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Quite a few do. CVA have no reason to show off who we kill and how we do it, and killboards give an enemy a run down on ships the enemy has recently been using, recent locations, individual pilot ship types, capital ship capability etc.
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blkmajik
ZiTek Deepspace Explorations
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Originally by: Mecinia Lua
I would think primarily it might be done to hamper intelligence gathering.
Interesting. How so?
Look yourself up on the Ka-Tet killboard. I never seen you in space, but I know you usually fly drakes and caracals, both with t1 damage mods and a t2 tank. You can fly a raven, but not with t2 gear. Knowing this, if i see you in system, I'm gonna load EM ammo and tank kenetic. Thats on a per-player basis.
On fleet basis, I can look at setups of everyone in your alliance, see how often your pilots lose MWDs on different class ships. See how many dictors you usually have. Tell if many of your pilots can fly sniper BS's. Basically, get an idea of how you fight. See how many guys you actually have who PVP frequently/at all. If I have lots of free time (or a pretty smart perl script), and I can generate a list of preferred primaries before you ever form your fleet, all thanks to your public killboard consolidating info on your own pilots.
Compare that to what making it public brings you and see if you think its worth it. (note: this is my opinion and not a justification for why IAC does things the way they do. I'm just a grunt).
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Oofig VanDoogan
The Knighthawks
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 18:29:00 -
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ITT we whine about FREGE's killboard not being public without actually whining about it.
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Lady Khanid
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.28 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Khanid on 28/09/2007 18:37:08
What BlkMagic said...
Its hard to decide if the pro's outweight the cons, i know the IAC board has a direct feed to all the major Alliances KB's so it is relatively accurate these days, and by keeping ours closed you can get some real humourous moments when someone gets WTF pwned/
As a corp in IAC we decided to just run our own one, which we keep for recruitment purposes if required there is no real reason otherwise to have a public one unless you are mercs and want to prove how effective you can be if hired.
http://kb.dline-corp.net/?a=home
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Maggot
Minmatar
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.09.28 18:37:00 -
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Ours is locked also and has only on rare occasions been made available to allies. We consider it a very valuable piece of intel and a good private discussion forum.
Although at the moment I would be quite proud to make it public ;)
Maggot.
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Pezzle
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 18:50:00 -
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It is easy to call it lame but quite honestly if it is hosted privately you are entitled to do whatever you want with it. Of course Stavros jumped on MY bandwagon about how lame killboards are in the first place ;)
I do have to wonder why it is such a big deal to others. Who cares if you cannot see or comment or post on someone elses board?
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.28 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: cal nereus on 28/09/2007 19:20:59
Your killboard. You can do whatever you want with it. Making it public doesn't necessarily help you.
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Darpz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.28 19:49:00 -
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paddy quit whining about frege and get a spy in there and as a bonus you'll get forums acess. they let everyone and there mothers in.
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Baddias Mongo
Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Originally by: Mecinia Lua
I would think primarily it might be done to hamper intelligence gathering.
Interesting. How so?
Because killmails state the location of where the kills happen, so a smart/sneaky enemy can use a hostile entitys killboard against them by tracking where they are currently active and so know where to find them if they are not time delaying kills.
As empire was so big when we fought privateers we always used their KB to find out where their camps were and how much they had.
Its very hard to stop people posting their mails as soon as the kill happens :)
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Asriel Grumman
Minmatar
Hi-Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.28 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mecinia Lua
I would think primarily it might be done to hamper intelligence gathering.
Very true indeed, intel can give a real edge in things like EW (Racial jammers as opposed to multi-specs etc) usually wins otherwise equal battles.
Another main one is the cost, as the bandwidth demand when 1000s of eve people look at famous killmails can get quite high (i.e. MCs killboard was down today). A lot of site providers still have traffic limits me thinks as well?
Just some thoughts
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Bashiri
Point-Zero
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:29:00 -
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So they dont know were the gang is why it's locked.
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:37:00 -
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If you can see someone's killboard you know so much about them, their locations, their ships, their fittings, the way they operate... It's just not very wise to keep it public. At least not completely public.
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.09.28 22:11:00 -
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they prolly imagine it restricts intel on them, it does, but only very marginally.
Even if you have no killboard at all (the ultimate in restrictions) it makes no odds as long as your foes have a killboard the information is readily available.
Another possibility is they have something to hide, usually how bad they are.
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Helganstandt
Finis Lumen
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Posted - 2007.09.28 22:19:00 -
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We do it to **** people off. I get some good laughs when people complain.
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari
Bladerunners
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.09.28 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Allistair Forsyth
Originally by: Elder Bob
Only one I can think of off the top of my head is IAC. No idea why they do it.
CVA as well IIRC. kinda lame IMO
Whats so lame about it ? Because they dont play it yer way ? its THEIR alliance ,Their playtime , Their rules/ideas and what not , whats next ?
If theres one thing i hated about EvE its killboards andnot actually them but how its beenused on teh forums , when they got introduced i knew exactly how theyd been used and ffs its annoying me still ,its like bf2/css even worse .
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Brakus
Minmatar
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.29 05:31:00 -
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I don't understand why someone would ever make their killboard public. Maybe if it had a delayed 6 hour posting or something.
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