Ah, i see, another fantasies :) Now suggest, how you will make 200 pvp pilots staying during 10-15 hours near your miners, to defend them from possible sabotage

Of course, enemy has only stupid jammers, and only your pilots are clever

So you confirmed that supercap blobs will disappear from daily fights, and much more PVP will be without supers at all, or with 1-2 supers as flagmans. Thanks, that's what i proposed to get by supercaps fuel introduction.

Yes, of course. And once alliance became big, it will be invulnerable and eternal. Tell that Band of Brothers

Of course not, the miners dock up because they see your fleet coming. Then they call a CTA and blob the area with a 200 strong fleet, destroying as many of the attacking alliance as possible. If they've left the area, then big deal, maybe the aggressors got to mine for thirty minutes before the CTA fleet arrived.

Point is with scouts and an intel network, you won't even kill the miners. So unless you plan on hanging around there and mining yourself, you aren't going to achieve anything. And if you hang around, you'll have a very big fleet coming.

You don't seem to understand what it means when I say "THE SUPER CAPITALS WILL JUMP IN IF THE FLEET IS THREATENED". This means aggressors will not attack unless they can both beat your sub-cap structure bashing fleet, and the super cap fleet you have in reserve. To attack with anything less would be deliberately whelping a fleet.

Your probably an excelent pilot, but definitely, an extremely poor strategist. You have a task - to mine resource. Imagine that 10 neutrals/minuses jumped into the system. What will you do? Call a CTA? Dock miners?
And those 10 pilots are 8 stealth-bombers and a pair of tacklers/interdictors. They jumped in, cloaked at safespot, and probably went afk. What will you do? Force your CTA fleet stay there during several hours? Have them turn back to their deals? Will you say your miners continue mining? Do you undertand that your miners will be reliable killed by a single attack of those 8 bombers, and even CTA fleet will not be able to protect them?

In any case, you failed your task. Your large alliance missed spawned resuorces. You should try to live in nullsec at least a pair of weeks, before theorizing about CTAs, super/cap/subcap fleets, operations and other such exciting to highsec carebear things

Try to think strategically, though i understand it's hard Enemy can force you to run out of supercaps fuel. He can provoke you several times, several times making appearance that it attacks you making your fleet is really threatened. And after you will spend most of your fuel on such false alarms - he will truely attack you with all of his supers.

So you're going to use AFK cloaking tactics to deny a major alliance limited resources in locations you don't know about? And you're going to achieve this consistently? Good luck. Even assuming alliances don't just rapidly locate and ninja mine this stuff, if it's that valuable they will redeploy briefly and just blob the area. Probably decimating whatever alliance previously inhabited the systems in the process.

You're also still assuming alliances like goons/pl will mine this stuff themselves, when the majority of them won't. They'll buy it.

And you should learn to read the part of a character's bio where it say it's an alt. And yes, this is an alt too. I bought it a while back because I couldn't be bothered to train fighters/fighter bombers to five on my main.

If it costs so much ISK to online your supers why would you jump them in unless your fleet was engaged by a superior force? If your subcap fleet is engaged by a superior force, it must be considerable, and you're going to wipe out the majority of that force. It is going to cost you a hell of a lot of whelp fleets to dent a major alliance's wallet this way.

And while we're on that topic, how about you post on your main? Let's see what a keen strategist you are in game, eh?

Is there any point to this thread anymore beyond some mouthbreather screaming 'LOLOLOLOLOLOL I TROLL U' at everyone with an IQ above room temperature?

4 pages of posts. 6 likes. Probably all his alts or people that are as dumb as he is.
nuff said.

This is a bad thread.

And bump

I actually really like this idea.

I mean, they're huge ships. They should have some kind of fuel limitation to keep them from becoming a 'swarm'.

Stop bumping your own thread, it's dead.

A slightly less terrible iteration has already sprung up again here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62530&find=unread

I still disagree with the idea on principle, but at least in that thread it is thought out a little better.

That idea is completely ineffective. Author suggests there that the isotope, necessary for supercaps, will be obtained with extremely small probability at every mining laser cycle.
It is absolute fail - because it is extremely convenient for bots.
Big alliances will just have hundreds of bots/pets on T1 frigs in asteroid belts, continuously mining that asteroids with simplest mining laser, and jettisoning ore to the space. Every time piece of isotope appears in the cargo - bot/pet warps to POS, drops it there, and returns to the asteroid belt.

And now, show me the bot, that can scan signatures which can contain component for supercap fuel in my idea.

Looks like you even don't try to think a bit, before saying anything .

Thanks for bump

The difference is that that guy realizes there are flaws with his idea, and attempts to address them. Quite a lot of the flaws he's identified and addressed apply to your own proposal too, yet you have either failed to see them or ignored them due to bias.

And no amount of bumping will make a difference to this thread, you obviously haven't had quite the response you expected given that you even set up an in game chat room specifically for this proposal (lol?). So try to think this idea through a little better, maybe take some of the ideas from the litany of other similar threads on this subject, then re-post when you've thought it through properly.

Hopefully if you at least attempt to address the issues that have been raised, preferably a little more logically than "nahnahnah, it will work, people won't abuse/sell it", then you won't get trolled so thoroughly next time round.

how about hundreds of bots/pets on T1 frigs with simplest mining lasers, who will get any amount of that isotope needed by large alliance.

In my idea it is very easy - supercap fuel component can be found only in signatures, while bots cannot scan. Also people will not be able to get a lot of this component, because they don't like to scan during a long time.

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HURR DURR I TROLL U

Get out.

Very interesting proposal. Will only work in case, when this fuel will be produced from randomly spawned complexes within whole galaxy (not only few regions). Certain cost of 1 hour fuel block may be lesser (<500kk), but in global I find the idea very nice. Also this will remove ratting with supers.