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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.09.29 04:30:00 -
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Apparently XP users need more time to prepare themselves to upgrade to Vista, says Microsoft via CBC. It appears that Microsoft has tried to play a game of chicken with consumers, and flinched at the last moment.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.29 04:56:00 -
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mahaha they cannot compete with our steely resolve!
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Caid Lemant
Cunning Hats
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Posted - 2007.09.29 05:05:00 -
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I wouldn't say they need time to prepare, it's just that they have been given no reason to upgrade. --------
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.09.29 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Caid Lemant I wouldn't say they need time to prepare, it's just that they have been given no reason to upgrade.
Truth.
I may even wait for whatever replaces Vista before I fully move over. I may dual boot if I absolutely have to, because of a game, but that's not gonna happen for a while.
I used to get It. Then It changed. Now I don't even know what It is.
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Malcanis
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Caid Lemant I wouldn't say they need time to prepare, it's just that they have been given no reason to upgrade.
Exactly. From what I can make out, people aren't even bothering to Warez Vista.
When your product's not even worth stealing, you know you have a problem
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Caid Lemant I wouldn't say they need time to prepare, it's just that they have been given no reason to upgrade.
Exactly. From what I can make out, people aren't even bothering to Warez Vista.
When your product's not even worth stealing, you know you have a problem
Only reason my laptop has Vista is because the laptops new. Hell I am seriously considering downgrading it to XP if I can get the cash for a copy.
Originally by: CCP Morpheus
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.09.29 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis When your product's not even worth stealing, you know you have a problem
Quoted For F***ing Truth
and its about goddamed time they listened to the masses in saying "WinXP is fine! We dont need Vista!" -
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Sereifex Daku
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.09.29 13:39:00 -
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I wouldn't mind Vista if it was BETTER than XP. From what I've seen Vista looks a little different and has ****laods of annoying confirmation windows.
Now, if Vista was a visual work of art, I would get a new computer with Vista for that reason alone.
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Rakeris
Brethren Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.29 14:50:00 -
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You know what is kinda funny about that, I downloaded it months ago, and burned it to a DVD, but I have yet to even have a reason to install it on one of my hard drives...
But yeah, if it offered something besides some "nice" looking stuff, I might consider it... ---------- I gave up on sigs. As all the beatings from the abusive mods are starting to hurt and leave nasty bruises. |

Daelorn
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.29 15:43:00 -
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I downgraded my new laptop from vista to XP a few days ago, only to realise there are no XP drivers for the things on my laptop that I could find... Anyone got any ideas XP ran so smooooth I want it back
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Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.29 15:56:00 -
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I think they need hardware prices to come down before vista really will take off. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |

Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.29 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kirjava on 29/09/2007 16:01:43
Originally by: Sharupak I think they need hardware prices to come down before vista really will take off.
That makes sense. I realy have no problems switching between my 3 year old PC with XP and my new laptop with Vista. Shoudln't I notice a diference and be more inclined to use the Vista laptop on the grounds of it theoreticly being a more powerful system?.... Anyhoo, surely Microsoft should take it as a complement, they succeeded and made the holy grail of OS in XP, so much so that everyone wants to keep it  How much did MS invest in Vista and how much have they taken in revenue, ie are they in the green yet?
Originally by: CCP Morpheus
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Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.29 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava Edited by: Kirjava on 29/09/2007 16:01:43
Originally by: Sharupak I think they need hardware prices to come down before vista really will take off.
That makes sense. I realy have no problems switching between my 3 year old PC with XP and my new laptop with Vista. Shoudln't I notice a diference and be more inclined to use the Vista laptop on the grounds of it theoreticly being a more powerful system?.... Anyhoo, surely Microsoft should take it as a complement, they succeeded and made the holy grail of OS in XP, so much so that everyone wants to keep it  How much did MS invest in Vista and how much have they taken in revenue, ie are they in the green yet?
I agree. There are essentially two problems.
1. For the average consumer, they can get a cheap xp box that will surf the net and get email just as well as a vista machine
2. For people like us, you can get vista capability (in some areas better)out of your machine with freeware/inexpensive 3rd party apps.
Not to totally bag on vista because I test stuff on a vista laptop my work bought for me. There are some seriously nice features (gadget Remote Desktop FTW) like that realtime index drive search in the start menu and it seems to run very smoothly. However, there is also things with that OS that make me want to rip my hair out. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |

Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.29 16:27:00 -
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True, I hate it when I put a disk in and I get warnings about "am I sure" about it..... Anyone know how to disable that?
Originally by: CCP Morpheus
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Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.29 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava True, I hate it when I put a disk in and I get warnings about "am I sure" about it..... Anyone know how to disable that?
fortunately, gpedit.msc is still your friend. I shut UAC off in group policy, but I have read there is an easier way from the control panel. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |

Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.29 16:30:00 -
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ahh here we go...
I did method 3, I dont know if the others work.
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mikerem
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
Only reason my laptop has Vista is because the laptops new. Hell I am seriously considering downgrading it to XP if I can get the cash for a copy.
Same here. Only reaso i have any Vista expierince is because i bought a new laptop. I really dident like the way Vista workd, and bought a XP licence for it. Mabey if i gave it more time it would have grown on me, but i dident and im loving my laptop now 
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:43:00 -
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Vista works fine for me! looks fine, runs smooth, but given my pc is pretty darn powerfull im not sure i would even notice the difference, especially not with eve 150fps... 160fps... what difference does it make
I would never have upgraded, i wouldn't do that, just because its far too expensive, but i had the choice between vista and xp for the same price.. i chose vista, and ive had no problems, no "can i do this" boxes, no incompatibility, perhaps im just lucky.
Also the national rail gadget is handy, lets me check times routes and stops without starting up the website! Maybe its the part of me that has to have things that i think look cool! is why i run darkstar theme for my xp laptop lol.
Ah well, and was anyone honestly expecting a newer OS to use less resources? i wasnt, but again perhaps thats just me!
Oh and at least 2 people in my 6th form have pirated copies of vista 
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vanBuskirk
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.29 22:32:00 -
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I've been asking around, and the consensus is that the M$ minimum spec for Vista is a joke - 512MB memory for a start? Well, it might run, but you're going to have a hard time doing anything with it and if you do it will run about as fast as molasses on Pluto. A realistic spec for a Vista gaming machine is 2GB. The graphics spec is a joke, too.
M$ pulled this stunt with XP, too. My sister bought two machines last year, one for her and one for her daughter, and they both run XP and have 256MB. Same deal.
Why do M$ underspecify? Simple. They want to sell copies, simple as. If they published a realistic spec, then people would buy less computers (because they would cost more) and M$ would make less money.
The solution is simple. Don't buy a PC until and unless you can buy one with a realistic Vista spec, and be very sure that drivers exist for any legacy hardware you already have first. Or buy a machine with XP - small system builders still do that.
Another gripe is machines with locked partitions on the HD and restore discs that do nothing more than reinstall from that. This can cause two problems; first, you have less space to use than you should and second, what happens if you have a HD failure? This is because of M$ paranoia about piracy, no doubt, and not wanting to lose revenue by people buying OEM copies of the OS instead of much more expensive retail copies - all you get extra for double the price is the box.
If M$ wasn't needed to run some of the apps I use then I would be running Linux. Or maybe buying an Apple.
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Brujo Loco
Amarr Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2007.09.29 22:35:00 -
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Is it me or looking this with tin foil hattery mode /on , M$ created Vista just to make people buy MOAR XP?????????? OMGZ!!!  
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.29 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Brujo Loco Is it me or looking this with tin foil hattery mode /on , M$ created Vista just to make people buy MOAR XP?????????? OMGZ!!!  
Unintended but that seems to be the result. M$, why call it that instead of MS?
Originally by: CCP Morpheus
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Brujo Loco Is it me or looking this with tin foil hattery mode /on , M$ created Vista just to make people buy MOAR XP?????????? OMGZ!!!  
Unintended but that seems to be the result. M$, why call it that instead of MS?
Because they are dirty capitalist pigs, who want to make lots of money! MONEY! of all things, the fools.. -------------------------------------------- Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!!
PEW PEW PEW PEW!
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.29 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Brujo Loco Is it me or looking this with tin foil hattery mode /on , M$ created Vista just to make people buy MOAR XP?????????? OMGZ!!!  
Unintended but that seems to be the result. M$, why call it that instead of MS?
Because they are dirty capitalist pigs, who want to make lots of money! MONEY! of all things, the fools..
The fools! Don't they know that the "money" econemy will colapse to be replaces with Gerbils?? The fools!
Originally by: CCP Morpheus
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Karanth
Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.09.29 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Brujo Loco Is it me or looking this with tin foil hattery mode /on , M$ created Vista just to make people buy MOAR XP?????????? OMGZ!!!  
Unintended but that seems to be the result. M$, why call it that instead of MS?
Because a MS is a Mothership, and M$ stands for Micro-Suck. Also, the money thing.
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SurfinSeaOtter Remade
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Posted - 2007.09.29 23:58:00 -
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I got Vista and upgraded from XP last night and I gotta say I'm happy with it. Only took me an hour to get it all installed and running.
Now to wait for my 8800 GTX and I'll be set 
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vanBuskirk
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.30 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Brujo Loco Is it me or looking this with tin foil hattery mode /on , M$ created Vista just to make people buy MOAR XP?????????? OMGZ!!!  
Unintended but that seems to be the result. M$, why call it that instead of MS?
Because they are dirty capitalist pigs, who want to make lots of money! MONEY! of all things, the fools..
Every business wants to make money. Not every business is prepared to say things a hairsbreadth short of a lie in order to make a few extra bucks, or produce stuff that is actually worse than what it replaces (e.g. M$ Vista Basic, hogs more resources and you don't get any of the toys) for the same reason. M$ Vista Basic is an abomination that never should have been released.
Actually, they have shot themselves in the foot. Vista was such a mess when it came out that, now, business users won't touch it with a 10-foot pole until forced; and when forced may well be taking a long hard look at Apple machines and/or Linux. Partly because business machines, perfectly adequate for XP and completely adequate for Linux, suddenly run amazingly slowly on Vista because it's such a resource hog, so switching to Vista means replacing all the hardware in a company as well.
This wouldn't only hurt sales of Vista - it would hurt sales of Office as well, because IT professionals are fully aware that there are open-source office products on Linux just as good as M$ Office, and the difference in cost is 100%.
One last thing; M$ security is a bad joke. Someone, somewhere, must be able to make software without all the myriad holes that exist in Windoze?
By the way, I am one of those business users; admittedly, Bill Gates won't be losing sleep over my decisions. I am probably going to be replacing my single work machine within the next month or so, because the machine I am using is clapped-out and is starting to throw up restarts caused by hardware faults fairly often. I need a lot of RAM and decent graphics, because it's going to be used for Photoshop and database work - but despite the fact that would run Vista easily I'll be buying it with XP (possible because it will be from a small local system builder). Why? Because it needs to be available for work, and I don't want to be mucking around with device drivers instead of working.
The shop in question is doing a roaring trade at the moment, because the chain shops, for example PC World, sell nothing but Vista machines and people DON'T WANT VISTA. ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:35:00 -
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quite a few people do want vista... as a matter of fact...
Also like i said, incompatibility issues are greatly exaggerated as far as i can tell! Ive not had one problem.
I know at least 7 people personally who use vista, as well as a fair number of people on these forums! Im not arguing, no ones forcing you to use vista, Dell still supply xp as do nearly all the online shops.. i actually went into pc world a few weeks back and they had a few XP systems!
Having used vista since soon after its release, i can tell you, its nowhere near as bad as anyone says it is. No one (short of complete fools) was expecting business to change their standard OS at any point soon anyway, you say it as if its a massive shock they didn't all switch. Community systems and business are usually very behind because it means they avoid any serious errors that come with newer systems. -------------------------------------------- Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!!
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.30 15:05:00 -
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You guys have it all backwards - You cant upgrade to vista, unless you are running windows 95. Even then, its pretty close.
you are DOWNGRADING to vista, or UPGRADING to xp.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.10.01 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: vanBuskirk
Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Brujo Loco Is it me or looking this with tin foil hattery mode /on , M$ created Vista just to make people buy MOAR XP?????????? OMGZ!!!  
Unintended but that seems to be the result. M$, why call it that instead of MS?
Because they are dirty capitalist pigs, who want to make lots of money! MONEY! of all things, the fools..
Every business wants to make money. Not every business is prepared to say things a hairsbreadth short of a lie in order to make a few extra bucks, or produce stuff that is actually worse than what it replaces (e.g. M$ Vista Basic, hogs more resources and you don't get any of the toys) for the same reason. M$ Vista Basic is an abomination that never should have been released.
Actually, they have shot themselves in the foot. Vista was such a mess when it came out that, now, business users won't touch it with a 10-foot pole until forced; and when forced may well be taking a long hard look at Apple machines and/or Linux. Partly because business machines, perfectly adequate for XP and completely adequate for Linux, suddenly run amazingly slowly on Vista because it's such a resource hog, so switching to Vista means replacing all the hardware in a company as well.
This wouldn't only hurt sales of Vista - it would hurt sales of Office as well, because IT professionals are fully aware that there are open-source office products on Linux just as good as M$ Office, and the difference in cost is 100%.
One last thing; M$ security is a bad joke. Someone, somewhere, must be able to make software without all the myriad holes that exist in Windoze?
By the way, I am one of those business users; admittedly, Bill Gates won't be losing sleep over my decisions. I am probably going to be replacing my single work machine within the next month or so, because the machine I am using is clapped-out and is starting to throw up restarts caused by hardware faults fairly often. I need a lot of RAM and decent graphics, because it's going to be used for Photoshop and database work - but despite the fact that would run Vista easily I'll be buying it with XP (possible because it will be from a small local system builder). Why? Because it needs to be available for work, and I don't want to be mucking around with device drivers instead of working.
The shop in question is doing a roaring trade at the moment, because the chain shops, for example PC World, sell nothing but Vista machines and people DON'T WANT VISTA.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: vanBuskirk
This wouldn't only hurt sales of Vista - it would hurt sales of Office as well, because IT professionals are fully aware that there are open-source office products on Linux just as good as M$ Office, and the difference in cost is 100%. etc etc...
Open source office replacements? Only on linux? Nope.
Welcome to Open Office. Why anyone who knows what they're doing would ever buy office is beyond me.
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