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VonKaplanek III
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Broker
Originally by: Awyn Lothr Is putting up 5 poses in 2 systems considered pos spam now? what do you want them to do put up a 1 pos per day?
You are supposed to destroy ennemy pos, and then plant your own over them.
That's what pvp is about. This is a carebear attempt at taking space.
ohnoes!!! carebear and pets!!!!! rofl
Find a better insult, carebears and pets are OLD.
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Erikel
Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:21:00 -
[32]
Oh noes, run fer da hillz!!!!
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Mr Broker
Station Gremlings
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: VonKaplanek III
Originally by: Mr Broker
Originally by: Awyn Lothr Is putting up 5 poses in 2 systems considered pos spam now? what do you want them to do put up a 1 pos per day?
You are supposed to destroy ennemy pos, and then plant your own over them.
That's what pvp is about. This is a carebear attempt at taking space.
ohnoes!!! carebear and pets!!!!! rofl
Find a better insult, carebears and pets are OLD.
how about cowards? unable to equal the russian capital fleet, bob and MC are resorting to a coward's tactic of pos spamming. something they often accuse their ennemies, but hey, it's okay when they do it 
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Korah
Caldari Heavy Metal Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.09.30 15:12:00 -
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IAC, stop your whining. Have you been playing the same game as the rest of us over the past year? Don't call it spam until enemy anchors more than 20 poses in your system. 5-10 poses is playing it smart.
It makes no sense for enemy to put 1 POS in your system and fight against your say...2 pos, and this is why:
Enemy will deploy enough POSes in your system to make you commit enough of your own POSes to make it worth their time to get into your system and hurt you by blowing them up. Taking down cyno jammer to blow up 2 poses is not enough damage done to you, and the cap fleet burns through those 2 poses in like 40 minutes. I would expect them to put up even more towers than 5, to make you put up 8-10 towers. Then it's worth bringing in cap fleet to blow up your 8-10. 10 towers blown up per week is considerable isk+time loss, 2 is...meh...
Korah
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Duke Grail
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.30 16:24:00 -
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first: i would bet that 3/4 of the allinace or more have never visited either V2 or 5-n.
second: they have about a bagillion moons, and are not defenseable if attacked and the attacker is willing/able to put more POS's up.
third: this thread shouldn't have been made and Carnmire is an idiot.
fourth: Yes, IAC should have had more POS's in that system... you live, you learn.
fifth: before you scream that this sounds like "we didn't want those stations anyway"... we didn't want those stations anyway :P
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Matty Walker
Body Heat LLP
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Posted - 2007.09.30 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mattduk
Originally by: Mr Broker
Originally by: Awyn Lothr Is putting up 5 poses in 2 systems considered pos spam now? what do you want them to do put up a 1 pos per day?
You are supposed to destroy ennemy pos, and then plant your own over them.
That's what pvp is about. This is a carebear attempt at taking space.
where on earth is that written?
It's written in CAOD, mate. In this very thread. Where you read it.
Gah, the kids these days, you have to explain every little thing to them ...
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.30 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Broker
Originally by: Awyn Lothr Is putting up 5 poses in 2 systems considered pos spam now? what do you want them to do put up a 1 pos per day?
You are supposed to destroy ennemy pos, and then plant your own over them.
That's what pvp is about. This is a carebear attempt at taking space.
What's better?
Version A: 1) Destroy enemy POS's. 2) Plant new POS's. 3) Defend system for a week until sov switches.
or Version B: 1) Plant POS's. Wait a little bit, let them sweat and, hopefully, throw a capital fleet up against your POS so you can kill them. 2) Destroy enemy POS's at your leisure. 3) Immediately (after next DT) gain sov.
5 per system isn't POS spam. The (20? 30? 40?) POS's fit with nothing but 14 hardeners apiece that D2 spammed against us? Now THAT's POS spam.
Here's a guideline: Speed bumps, intended solely to slow your enemy's advance? POS spam. POS in quantities within some delta (2-3?) of your enemy's POS in that system? Perfectly legitimate.
--P
Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. |

Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Pilk
Originally by: Mr Broker
Originally by: Awyn Lothr Is putting up 5 poses in 2 systems considered pos spam now? what do you want them to do put up a 1 pos per day?
You are supposed to destroy ennemy pos, and then plant your own over them.
That's what pvp is about. This is a carebear attempt at taking space.
What's better?
Version A: 1) Destroy enemy POS's. 2) Plant new POS's. 3) Defend system for a week until sov switches.
or Version B: 1) Plant POS's. Wait a little bit, let them sweat and, hopefully, throw a capital fleet up against your POS so you can kill them. 2) Destroy enemy POS's at your leisure. 3) Immediately (after next DT) gain sov.
5 per system isn't POS spam. The (20? 30? 40?) POS's fit with nothing but 14 hardeners apiece that D2 spammed against us? Now THAT's POS spam.
Here's a guideline: Speed bumps, intended solely to slow your enemy's advance? POS spam. POS in quantities within some delta (2-3?) of your enemy's POS in that system? Perfectly legitimate.
--P
problem is, you can only put 5 POS'es per system each day now, so yeah. 5 POS'es can be considered pos spam now. ---
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Joeyboy
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.30 17:44:00 -
[39]
Yet another classic.
When the Goons and pets put up POS's, It's called strategy and when BOB and pets put up POS's it's called POS spam.
Gotta love it. 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.30 17:46:00 -
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Doing so more than once might be spam, doing so only once - hardly.
I'd rather we not start threads like these btw :\
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Carnmire
Caldari Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.30 20:50:00 -
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My apologies, I was there when the BoB groups came in and started setting up. I figured I should report on the matter. Didn't know I was breaking protocol 
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.30 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Adm Tecumseh exactly how RSF took k-9/r-r.
Nail meet hammer.
Thanks for the closing arguements.
Have a nice day.
Nah, we removed a large number of CORM POSes from both 2-r and k-9 to take sov. Nice troll attempt though brosef.
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Zataaki
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.30 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mattduk Seriously, this thread is verging on desperation. It's a carebear attempt at propoganda
This is basically every Tyrell post in CAOD. Maybe one day if your alliance mattered at all people would listen 
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fugazii
Union Of Xtreme Military M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.30 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Broker Edited by: Mr Broker on 30/09/2007 11:05:18 BOB started the IAC campaign confidently, bragging they won't need to POS spam, and IAC accepted and didn't put up placeholder POS to prevent it.
You know, honor and fun fights?
Guess BOB didn't want that honor anyways 
e-honor . im sorry but iac are idiots for not putting up placeholders, infact theyre idiots for not having up large pos's on everyone moon in every useful system. especially when the announcement went out that iac is the new primary target.
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.30 21:07:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Pilk
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Your posts just make me want sooo much to visit fountain. And next time, when SteelRat will be asking for +, to move your assets, i`ll invite you to convo.
See you on the battlefield. I really hope that you are as good, as your loud posts is.
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Digicomm
101st Space Marine Force
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Posted - 2007.09.30 21:08:00 -
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Waaaan, dont cry that BoB is pos spamming.
Hey IAC why is your alliance dying, oh thats right the goons are up in feyth smacking corm LOL.
Hope all the pet smack that is going on with the goons doesnt bite them in the a** and they loose one of thier own pets namely IAC.
Karma.
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Kola XXX
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.30 21:19:00 -
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how about cowards? unable to equal the russian capital fleet, bob and MC are resorting to a coward's tactic of pos spamming. something they often accuse their ennemies, but hey, it's okay when they do it 
Mr. Broker wth 0 kills 0 losses knows all about alliance warfare. The fear in this thread is epic.
and fixed for you
"how about cowards? unable to equal the russian alt forum squad , RA ad Goons are resorting to a coward's tactic of forum alt spamming . something they often accuse their ennemies, but hey,we didn't want those systems.
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Vyres
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.30 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Digicomm Waaaan, dont cry that BoB is pos spamming.
Hey IAC why is your alliance dying, oh thats right the goons are up in feyth smacking corm LOL.
Hope all the pet smack that is going on with the goons doesnt bite them in the a** and they loose one of thier own pets namely IAC.
Karma.
You idiots need to learn the definition of the word pet. A Pet is some one who pays money to a larger force to set up space for them aka a renter. IAC is a renter to no one so there for they are not a pet. Not that I would expect a ******** no name corp troll to know that.
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Digicomm
101st Space Marine Force
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Posted - 2007.09.30 22:59:00 -
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No, pet is a term for someone who needs help from an other alliance to survive, to get the job done. The goons are Pets as well I suppose. IAC was an ally of yours, you abandoned them and they are losing space. You don't take care of your pets well.
IAC = Pet alliance of the goons Goons = Pet alliance of RA.
You both have masters admit it.
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.09.30 23:04:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Vyres
You idiots need to learn the definition of the word pet. A Pet is some one who pays money to a larger force to set up space for them aka a renter. IAC is a renter to no one so there for they are not a pet. Not that I would expect a ******** no name corp troll to know that.
Both the goons and IAC surrendered access to complexes to the russians. That is in effect a very large payment of isk for game considerations. Yes, that is so completely different than being a pet! Such fine distinctions with such large meaning! Mad props for bringing it Vyres!
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.30 23:05:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Digicomm No, pet is a term for someone who needs help from an other alliance to survive, to get the job done. The goons are Pets as well I suppose. IAC was an ally of yours, you abandoned them and they are losing space. You don't take care of your pets well.
IAC = Pet alliance of the goons Goons = Pet alliance of RA.
You both have masters admit it.
so that makes BOB MC pets by your definition?
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.30 23:07:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Shoukei
Originally by: Mr Broker Except IAC wasn't spamming pos in their systems, they were defending theirs and holding BOB back sucessfully.
except russians are the ones defending IAC space. IAC would have rolled over long ago if this was not the case.
Well I guess its unfortunate that this is the case, for you at least. If IAC was the worst pvp alliance in the game we would still work to defend them as they are our allies. We have no need to throw them to the wolves unlike our enemies and their friends, which, coincidently, is why BoB is now facing such a large numbers disadvantage.
BoB and friends will most likely have to make an attempt at taking down IAC's towers. 5 pos in system can be a bridgehead to start that and also an attempt to take system without attacking but they will most likely have to make an attempt at hostile pos where we will find out if it was worth it.
As far as goonswarm pos spam, of course we do. When your enemy lets you kill 60+ towers without being able to take down yours you need to do something with your extra towers.
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Andargor theWise
Collateral Damage Unlimited Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.30 23:21:00 -
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Wow, a simple report gets derailed big time. 
I had high hopes for strategy speculation in these very exciting times, but that evaporated very quickly. 
- Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.09.30 23:35:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Digicomm No, pet is a term for someone who needs help from an other alliance to survive, to get the job done. The goons are Pets as well I suppose. IAC was an ally of yours, you abandoned them and they are losing space. You don't take care of your pets well.
IAC = Pet alliance of the goons Goons = Pet alliance of RA.
You both have masters admit it.
so, referring to the other thread where the origin of the term "pet" in regards to this forum/new eden is concerned -- how it came from bob, and was directed towards bob's renters, hence the station that was named "pet shop" or some such, and all the other things that was said in that thread... that means nothing, because you can't comprehend it, or because it doesn't suit your ranting? eh !'d one? i wonder whose pet you are, that you're posting with a very very new toon. probably a goon, right? throwing a little dissension in order to confuse yourself? goodfight girlfriend. goodfight girlfriend indeed.
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Taj Zela
Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh
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Posted - 2007.09.30 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Broker
Originally by: Awyn Lothr Is putting up 5 poses in 2 systems considered pos spam now? what do you want them to do put up a 1 pos per day?
You are supposed to destroy ennemy pos, and then plant your own over them.
That's what pvp is about. This is a carebear attempt at taking space.
Like****goon does?
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Gjs312
Black Lance Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.01 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Digicomm Waaaan, dont cry that BoB is pos spamming.
Hey IAC why is your alliance dying, oh thats right the goons are up in feyth smacking corm LOL.
Hope all the pet smack that is going on with the goons doesnt bite them in the a** and they loose one of thier own pets namely IAC.
Karma.
FFS we are -A- pets get it right.     
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Kiko Goatbiter
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 00:12:00 -
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I hear goons POS spam systems with 100 percent moon coverage
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kiko Goatbiter I hear goons POS spam systems with 100 percent moon coverage
Goons will actually pos spam low sec systems. Then just start Ctrl-Qing and launching bookmark cans for no reason.
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.02 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Pilk
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Your posts just make me want sooo much to visit fountain. And next time, when SteelRat will be asking for +, to move your assets, i`ll invite you to convo.
See you on the battlefield. I really hope that you are as good, as your loud posts is.
Why? Who lives in Fountain?
We're in ED-, killing the last of your towers, 25S, sitting in your allies' station, and FAT-, winning my 500m isk bet with Tyrrax. Come visit us soon at any of our fine, family-friendly franchises. Food and bree are on my tab; BYOStront.
--P
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.02 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Pilk
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Pilk
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Your posts just make me want sooo much to visit fountain. And next time, when SteelRat will be asking for +, to move your assets, i`ll invite you to convo.
See you on the battlefield. I really hope that you are as good, as your loud posts is.
Why? Who lives in Fountain?
We're in ED-, killing the last of your towers, 25S, sitting in your allies' station, and FAT-, winning my 500m isk bet with Tyrrax. Come visit us soon at any of our fine, family-friendly franchises. Food and bree are on my tab; BYOStront.
--P
How is life as a tenant?
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