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Leighanne
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:01:00 -
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I know why they are introducing the new feature of Drone bandwidth in the upcomming Rev 3.0.
Yes it has applications for drone balance and allowing players to release multiple waves of drones by facilitating the expansion of drone bays on ships while still retaining the same 'drone functionality' that those current ships already enjoy (or do not enjoy as the case maybe).
However one important application that I think people are skipping over without realising is that it will prevent the boarder line unbalancedness of "fighter bombing".
Fighter bombing usually involes small fast ships generally with little or no drone bay to begin with launching wave are wave of fighters on an ememy fully with the intention of killing a few targets and then either returning to the controller or dying on the battlefield.
With the advent of Drone bandwidth this should no longer be possible as those ships suited for the bombing run will theoretically be unable to control the bandwidth required to take assigned fighters or perhaps just a MUCH smaller amount of assigned fighters.
In turn this will mean that if you want to commit fighters to a fight you will have to commit the carrier itself to the fight as well to gain maximum benefit from the fighters - or have a disporportionately large number of smaller ships to assign fighters to. (assuming they can even have fighters assigned to them?)
So yeah - Balance all round.
- Leighanne
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Sm0kE
Ganja Labs
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:06:00 -
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If that were the case why wouldn't they just call it "fighter bandwidth" and leave the drone bays alone?
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:07:00 -
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Actually, it is because ships with Drone Bays communicate with them using a 56K modem in the ship. Now, they have been upgraded to fiber optics.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:08:00 -
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Interesting.
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Leighanne
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Leighanne on 01/10/2007 01:16:21
Originally by: Sm0kE
If that were the case why wouldn't they just call it "fighter bandwidth" and leave the drone bays alone?
Because It also allows people to launch multiple waves of drones and 'balance' drone usage on a larger scale as well.
It is not ENTIRELY about fighter bombing - but this would seem to be a quite large point about doing it.
So no not the only reason asmy title might have been misleadingly pointing too - but definately one of THE reasons.
Also then it smacks less lf "NERF". Personally I'm undecided on whether it is a 'nerf' or not which is why I'm referring to it as 'Balance' because I actually do think its balance not nerf or buff.
Might be nice to get some more carriers on the frontline though I know I wanna get in there with mine!
- Leighanne
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LVSOCOM
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: LVSOCOM on 01/10/2007 01:28:33
Interesting and very possible. The amount of bandwidth consumed by a fighter would probably be equal to a heavy drone, so that carriers could still assign 5 fighters to a bs, but not say, an interceptor. All bs's will probably have 5x the bandwidth requirement of a single fighter/heavy drone, while most of them not having enough drone bay to make use of it on their own. Something like 1 unit of bandwidth required per 1m3 of drone size (or a ratio of this) with the ships available bandwidth totaling that of the largest payload of 5 drones possible with their current stats. Where that gets interesting is ships that have drone bays not divisable by 5, 10, or 25... Will they get enough bandwidth to control 4 medium drones if their dronebay is 40m3 right now and gets expanded after bandwidth?
Also, there hasn't been in any direct indications of reducing the capability of ships like the Eos, Ishtar, and myrmidon of fielding a full set of heavies. This is where everyone seems to think its being aimed, but really this is an overall problem with the way drones work. It needed to be added.
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Taedrin
Gallente
Magellan Exploration and Survey
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Posted - 2007.10.01 03:08:00 -
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It probably also has something to do with deploying 5 Ogre IIs in a Domi, warping out, and letting an Ishkur scoop and re-launch each Ogre II, one at a time. An assault frigate with Battleship DPS, anyone?
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Mithfindel
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.10.01 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin
It probably also has something to do with deploying 5 Ogre IIs in a Domi, warping out, and letting an Ishkur scoop and re-launch each Ogre II, one at a time. An assault frigate with Battleship DPS, anyone?
Also, an exploit you'll be banned of if someone happens to have time to petition it?
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Vrizuh
Eve Defence Force
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.10.01 04:32:00 -
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Don't fighters have pilots in the*****pit? So even an interceptor could radio in orders to em.
I fully believe this bandwidth thing is something we've needed for a long time. The idea that you should have to go find an outpost or ship maintenance array everytime you need to change drones etc is just such a waste of time. Especially when everyone else can just carry different ammo types and switch em out on the fly.
We'll finally be able to carry a tonne of drones and not have to worry about accidentally giving someone too large or too many drones.
If they didn't want fighters assigned to intys/shuttles etc, they could just straight up hardcode it out.
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Capt Rapace
Alpha Production Technologies
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.01 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mithfindel
Originally by: Taedrin
It probably also has something to do with deploying 5 Ogre IIs in a Domi, warping out, and letting an Ishkur scoop and re-launch each Ogre II, one at a time. An assault frigate with Battleship DPS, anyone?
Also, an exploit you'll be banned of if someone happens to have time to petition it?
Not an exploit.
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Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.01 05:05:00 -
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could someone link me to a post explaining how bandwidth works? :S
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.10.01 05:36:00 -
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Basically instead of tying how many drones and what size of each type to the drone bay size (Omen with 15m3 able to use 3 light or 1 med 1 light) it will be tied to a new value that will determine how many and of what type you will be able to use at once..(Omen that still uses the 3 light or 1 med 1 light combo but has a much bigger drone bay to allow for diffrent drone type or just extra drone period..) Thats about it in a nutshell.. Don't really know if what you can use now will be changed though as in the Mrym still being able to use 5 heavy drones and not get knocked down to 5 med..
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Jenna Shame
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Posted - 2007.10.01 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin
It probably also has something to do with deploying 5 Ogre IIs in a Domi, warping out, and letting an Ishkur scoop and re-launch each Ogre II, one at a time. An assault frigate with Battleship DPS, anyone?
I can't think of a bigger waste of time personally.
My pilot is very drone specialized and I really don't see the point. Be better just to stay there with the domi, and while it may slightly increase the DPS of a gate camp, its a lot of work for very little gain. Gain which is wiped out as soon as the iskhur has to warp off.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.01 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kirex
could someone link me to a post explaining how bandwidth works? :S
Such a post does not exist... yet.
All of this is speculation about what exactly drone bandwidth might be about in Rev 3.
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.01 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jenna Shame
Originally by: Taedrin
It probably also has something to do with deploying 5 Ogre IIs in a Domi, warping out, and letting an Ishkur scoop and re-launch each Ogre II, one at a time. An assault frigate with Battleship DPS, anyone?
I can't think of a bigger waste of time personally.
My pilot is very drone specialized and I really don't see the point. Be better just to stay there with the domi, and while it may slightly increase the DPS of a gate camp, its a lot of work for very little gain. Gain which is wiped out as soon as the iskhur has to warp off.
not at all.
I never realised this was possible and tbh I think its a good tactic for prolonged gate camps- It would be good to hear back from an official whether this is considered an exploit.
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place?
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Malcanis
High4Life
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mithfindel
Originally by: Taedrin
It probably also has something to do with deploying 5 Ogre IIs in a Domi, warping out, and letting an Ishkur scoop and re-launch each Ogre II, one at a time. An assault frigate with Battleship DPS, anyone?
Also, an exploit you'll be banned of if someone happens to have time to petition it?
No it isn't and no you won't. It's perfectly game-legal
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Kayna Eelai
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Posted - 2007.10.01 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Actually, it is because ships with Drone Bays communicate with them using a 56K modem in the ship. Now, they have been upgraded to fiber optics.
lol u think CCP is bill gates? they'll have upgradde it to 64K ISDN and be thankful it will be THAT much.
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