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Nicola Sardonicus
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:12:00 -
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Between the two of these, is one better? The increased reapir amount of the pump is the same as the increase in speed with the accelerator such that there does not seem to be a difference over time. Is the point here that using the accelerators does not incur a stacking penalty, and up to two can be stacked on a nanopump (though that would be a miserably slow ship)? ____________________________________
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:17:00 -
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The nanobot accelerator actually provides a better boost, because it's inverted (a 15% reduction in cycle time = a 17.6% increase in rep/second). However, it also increases your cap drain by that same amount. Auxilliary nano pumps do provide less rep/second, but they make each point of your cap count for more, and cap is life. For this reason, I prefer ANPs.
And I believe both rigs are stacking nerfed (though only with themselves, not with each other) ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |

Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 01/10/2007 01:19:49 Ninjaed, and by a more eloquent and comprehensive respose as well 
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:23:00 -
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Sorry, but dictionary.com cannot find any words spelled "respose". Perhaps you can clarify?
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Nicola Sardonicus
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Acoco Osiris The nanobot accelerator actually provides a better boost, because it's inverted (a 15% reduction in cycle time = a 17.6% increase in rep/second). However, it also increases your cap drain by that same amount. Auxilliary nano pumps do provide less rep/second, but they make each point of your cap count for more, and cap is life. For this reason, I prefer ANPs.
And I believe both rigs are stacking nerfed (though only with themselves, not with each other)
Thanks so much for the explanation. A slight correction, though: rep is life; cap is God.  ____________________________________
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:37:00 -
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I worship the Cap Recharger II. Let's start the Cult of the Capacitor! ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |

Nicola Sardonicus
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Posted - 2007.10.01 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Acoco Osiris I worship the Cap Recharger II. Let's start the Cult of the Capacitor!
So do you mount an Capacitor Control Circuit rig along with your Aux Nano Pump?
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Liang Nuren
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.10.01 04:55:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 01/10/2007 04:56:29 2 Aux nano pumps and an accelerator works best (imho, and I think numerically as well).
Edit: I think its the best balance between cap usage/burst tanking.
Liang
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Nicola Sardonicus
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Posted - 2007.10.01 05:00:00 -
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Edited by: Nicola Sardonicus on 01/10/2007 05:09:13
Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 01/10/2007 04:56:29 2 Aux nano pumps and an accelerator works best (imho, and I think numerically as well).
Edit: I think its the best balance between cap usage/burst tanking.
Liang
EDIT: CORRECTION
What is the stacking penalty and does it apply to accelerators and nano pumps together? If the penalty is significant but appled only with two nano pumps, one speed pump plus two accelerators might be better. ____________________________________
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.01 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Nicola Sardonicus
Originally by: Acoco Osiris I worship the Cap Recharger II. Let's start the Cult of the Capacitor!
So do you mount an Capacitor Control Circuit rig along with your Aux Nano Pump?
I know I do. -
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Siakel
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Posted - 2007.10.01 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nicola Sardonicus Edited by: Nicola Sardonicus on 01/10/2007 05:09:13
Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 01/10/2007 04:56:29 2 Aux nano pumps and an accelerator works best (imho, and I think numerically as well).
Edit: I think its the best balance between cap usage/burst tanking.
Liang
EDIT: CORRECTION
What is the stacking penalty and does it apply to accelerators and nano pumps together? If the penalty is significant but appled only with two nano pumps, one speed pump plus two accelerators might be better.
The stacking penalty affects modules that increase/decrease a certain stat multiplicatively, though not all such mods are stacking penalized.
For this example, both Aux Nano Pumps and Nanobot Accelerators are stacking penalized, like this:
First module, 100% effective. Second module, 87% effective. Third module, 57% effective.
Since Aux Nano Pumps and Nanobot Accelerators effect two seperate stats, they do not stack against each other, so some people use 2x Nano Pump 1x Accelerator for a good balance of HP/sec and cap/sec use. You could use 2x Accel 1x Aux Pump, but the difference in HP/Sec usually wouldn't be worth the increase in cap/sec that the Reppers will be using. Personally I tend to avoid the Accelerators on all but a select few setups, because I very much dislike the extra cap usage they cause.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.10.01 07:07:00 -
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Originally by: Acoco Osiris Sorry, but dictionary.com cannot find any words spelled "respose". Perhaps you can clarify?

Sure sure, kick 'em when they're down, why don't ya! 
I can only conclude however, that as amazing as it sounds, your dictionary.com site must have included the time honored and magnificent word "ninjaed" in their mighty virtual tomes. Otherwise a person as diligent as yourself would surely have set me straight on that as well. That's good news.
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Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
2 Aux nano pumps and an accelerator works best (imho, and I think numerically as well).
Indeed. That's what I used on my Myrm. Tanks like a mofo.
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 22:16:00 -
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Sure, it does provide more DPS tanked.
But I like the ability to make tea during the midst of heated combat, and a nanobot acclerator means you must pulse one of the reps. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |

omiNATION
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.02 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Siakel
Originally by: Nicola Sardonicus Edited by: Nicola Sardonicus on 01/10/2007 05:09:13
Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 01/10/2007 04:56:29 2 Aux nano pumps and an accelerator works best (imho, and I think numerically as well).
Edit: I think its the best balance between cap usage/burst tanking.
Liang
EDIT: CORRECTION
What is the stacking penalty and does it apply to accelerators and nano pumps together? If the penalty is significant but appled only with two nano pumps, one speed pump plus two accelerators might be better.
The stacking penalty affects modules that increase/decrease a certain stat multiplicatively, though not all such mods are stacking penalized.
For this example, both Aux Nano Pumps and Nanobot Accelerators are stacking penalized, like this:
First module, 100% effective. Second module, 87% effective. Third module, 57% effective.
Since Aux Nano Pumps and Nanobot Accelerators effect two seperate stats, they do not stack against each other, so some people use 2x Nano Pump 1x Accelerator for a good balance of HP/sec and cap/sec use. You could use 2x Accel 1x Aux Pump, but the difference in HP/Sec usually wouldn't be worth the increase in cap/sec that the Reppers will be using. Personally I tend to avoid the Accelerators on all but a select few setups, because I very much dislike the extra cap usage they cause.
This makes sense, I added a pump it gave me 120hp more repair, I added another one, gave me about 80hp repair. Also I don't think the accelerators have a stacking penalty, at least none is mentioned. Are CCC stacked? they don't have it in their description either.
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.02 21:58:00 -
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Nanobots are, CCCs aren't. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |
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