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Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.02.18 18:36:00 - [1] Edited by: Drac Dragnog on 18/02/2004 23:29:09 * Broken Link will fix later with cut and pastes * NOTE: NORAD was once the corps that helped make up ORS. They were the ones that decided for peace with Arcadia, and to not fight whilst Others were in the middle of the battle fields trying to protect thier home. Please inform us of any omissions or incorrectness as soon as possible. As for the rest who dont know the story as to why this war is taking place feel free to ask me or others in Geeklab or FMG. The Fremen from Dune said it best: "Long Live the Fighters" (I thinks thats who said it but im drunk right now so who cares) Disclaimer Random Babble is quite possible
Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.02.18 23:39:00 - [2] Edited by: Drac Dragnog on 20/02/2004 13:15:37 I will keep a running score of both our losses and our enemies' losses on here. Tuesday, February 10, 2003: Our Losses: 1 x Blackbird - Freyett Their losses: 3 x Blackbird - Alex Capone, Tenaka Khan, Ultrix Civus 1 x Caracal - Anor Azure 1 x Incursus - Syme 1 x Kestrel - Solan 1 x Imicus - Alex Capone(yes again) 1 x Apocolypse - Black Mirror Wednesday, February 11, 2004: Our Losses: 2 x Caracal - 2 x Auronof 1 x Ibis - Auronof 1 x Blackbird - Auronof(I need to put equipment at other docks) 1 x Vigil - Freyett 1 x Bestower - Auronof(don't ask) Their Losses: 1 x BNC Industrial(lots of goodies) 1 x Moa - StrikeClone 1 x Punisher - Admiral Iceblock 1 x Bestower - Shadar Logoth 1 x Caracal - Anor Azure 2 x Blackbird - Alex Capone, Ewen 1 x Velator - Ras Tschobai Thursday, February 12, 2003: Our Losses: 1 x Rifter - Freyett(died bravely killing a hammerhead) 2 x Kestrel - Sabri, Auronof 1 x Moa - Ttam Their Losses: 2 x Vigil - 2 x Nergal 1 x Exequerer - Dark Eagle 1 x Bestower - Grummus 1 x Blackbird - HimmelBlau 1 x Thorax - Vindigo O'Riley Friday, February 13, 2003: Our Losses: 1 x Thorax - Donadun Their Losses: 4 x Blackbird - 2 x Betty Spliter, Captain Fringe, Tulak 1 x Tempest - Anor Azure 1 x Bestower - Plodders 1 x Scorpion - 8t88 1 x Thorax - Marvelous Master? (Stolen from a "safe" BM) 1 x Raven - Shivaja 1 x Moa - Crean Nevar 1 x Shuttle - GoldyXII 1 x Thorax - Dark Eagle 1 x Mammoth û Sadith Saturday, February 14, 2003: Our Losses: 1 x Thorax - Swaffer 1 x Raven - Auronof Their Losses: 1 x Raven - Somebody 1 x Scorpion - Blacklight 1 x Vigil - Eduard 1 x Iteron III û Maurits Sunday, February 15, 2003: Our Losses: 1 x Kestrel - Sabri Their Losses: 1 x Badger MKII - Skaffenamtiskaw 1 x Scorpion - Brad Wilczek 1 x Osprey - Senz 1 x Maller û Tyrrax (Non NORAD, Caught Mining, so was podded for mining in the wrong area. Was informed before entering area that this was not a free mining zone) Monday, February 16, 2003: Our Losses: 1 x Blackbird - Drac Dragnog Their Losses: 1 x Scorpion - Betty Spliter 2 x Kestrel - Nergal 1 x Vigil - Nergal 1 x Apocolypse - Falconetta 1 x Megathron - Badauz 1 x Iteron MK IV - Hamish (Non NORAD, Caught Mining, so was podded for mining in the wrong area. Was informed before entering area that this was not a free mining zone) 2 x Vortex Industrial - Gred, Neo Afar Tuesday, February 17, 2003: Our Losses: Their Losses: 1 x Condor - Snaad Gnabbsvindel 1 x Vigil - Eduard 1 x Vortex Industrial - Veren Sark 1 x Vexor - Taito 1 x Blackbird - Serra Nex -------Following Three Kills were done in less than 60 seconds by Auronof in a kestrel--------- 1 x Tristan - Phoibos 1 x Kestrel - Dragorus 1 x Griffin - Snaad Gnabbsvindel -------End List--------- 1 x Blackbird - Johnny Rieko Wednesday, February 18, 2003: Our Losses: 2 x Kestrel - 2 x Auronof Their Losses: 1 x Kestrel û Eduard There I hope thats right... Disclaimer Random Babble is quite possible
Fedaykin Naib	Posted - 2004.02.18 23:42:00 - [3] Hey it was Paul Maud'dib Atriedes how said to his Fedaykin :P "Long Live the Fighters!" "The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
Hamish	Posted - 2004.02.19 01:06:00 - [4] I'd like to point out that the Maller piloted by Tyrrax Thorrk and the Osprey piloted by Senz and the Iteron Mk IV piloted by myself were in no way part of either alliance and were sporting mining and hauling gear. The Hamish Saga - by HellGremlin
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.02.19 04:39:00 - [5] You guys ought to be careful what you wish for. Respect to Jokerzwylde, for being a top guy, having some serious balls and generally being the kind of guy I want to fight in game! Good luck Jokerz :) Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.02.19 04:42:00 - [6] Drak as you are in bed with the master of lies, king of missinformation, father of generally ****e arsed scum sucking dispicable falsehoods why do you think we are going to take you seriously? Errmm.... answer is.... kiss our collective arse :) Eve Blacklight Style
Stue	Posted - 2004.02.19 04:48:00 - [7] 2 questions for you, Drac Dragnoc: Who are you and why are you still here? Good luck with the nowhere-leading guerilla, btw.
Powder	Posted - 2004.02.19 05:22:00 - [8] Edited by: Powder on 19/02/2004 05:34:18 omg dude i went 4v1 with you guys and you couldnt kill me, so lets not brag about wins here, and kerstel kills vs frigates???!!? do you really think thats even something to brag about? hahaha man talk about reaching, yes you have killed a couple of our(BNC) ships (all if not most just passing through the area if im not wrong) but damn if you really want to us to send a task force down well, least you got your safespots marked well
Powder916	Posted - 2004.02.19 05:37:00 - [9] shouldnt this be moved to the corp fourm?
Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.02.19 15:39:00 - [10] Quote: Drak as you are in bed with the master of lies, king of missinformation, father of generally ***e arsed scum sucking dispicable falsehoods why do you think we are going to take you seriously? Errmm.... answer is.... kiss our collective arse :) Aye the king of lies huh? Well try this: 1) We had a peace agreement and fought Pirates next to you while there, Yet because you dont like 1 person you declare war on an Alliance. Its almost, but just not quite "Griefing" a player. 2) I was neutral, and you knew it, until NORAD opend fire one me. 3) The last time BNC came up it was to get 2 haulers in the Arm, and me in a Kestrel or BB (Cant Remeber) with 5 battle ships. Hmm you think Im going to try and fight that? Ill go one on one with bb vs scorp but not 5 to 1 when Im the 1. Sorry. And I also ran right past your slow rears. 4) 3/4 of the CHON an other corps have no Idea why thier haulers and fighters are getting Podded. Has the CEOs of NORAD actually consulted thier Corp, or just did what they wanted? 5) And as a diplomat I would a little more Tact in what you post. If you cannot be professional, then dont do the Job. You disgrace your Corp and Alliance with those actions. Disclaimer* Random Babble is quite possible

Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.02.19 15:42:00 - [11] Edited by: Drac Dragnog on 19/02/2004 15:47:57 Quote: Edited by: Powder on 19/02/2004 05:34:18 omg dude i went 4v1 with you guys and you couldnt kill me, so lets not brag about wins here, and kerstel kills vs frigates???!!? do you really think thats even something to brag about? hahaha man talk about reaching, yes you have killed a couple of our(BNC) ships (all if not most just passing through the area if im not wrong) but damn if you really want to us to send a task force down well, least you got your safespots marked well Was I there? I dont think Ive seen you other than the one time that you undocked, we targetted and you warped away. As for the Kestrel takin out 3 ships in 60 seconds... Hell it was more than fair fight. It was 3 frigs on 1. Can you tell me you would do Better? And one of the Frigs was another Kestrel. So is a Kestrel better than itself? or is it basically pilot skill? If you can justify why 1 frig taking out 3 is Sheepish, let me know. I think he did a great job. Especially because they could of been anything else. Quote: 2 questions for you, Drac Dragnoc: Who are you and why are you still here? Good luck with the nowhere-leading guerilla, btw. I am the new self appointed quasi ORS diplomat, and forum Troll. Feel better? As for why Im here, everyone that is Neutral or NORAD has been asking for this that I have met. So I have given it to them. If I could have locked the Forum as a read only I would have. End of story... Maybe Ill update it later... Disclaimer Random Babble is quite possible
Powder	Posted - 2004.02.19 16:58:00 - [12] Edited by: Powder on 19/02/2004 17:00:19 umm you were there (in a blackbird) and it was a bit more then just warping out, belive we went at it about 3-4 times. I was locked, not in tank mode and still hung around for several minutes taking heavy before warping out, hell we even had a little convo afterward about how i was suprised you guys were starting to work as a team, ehh doesnt really matter i geuss. edit: and that frigate kill was out of context, sorry, when you said in 60 seconds i thought you ment each one was killed in less then 60 seconds not the group as a whole.
DoctorGonzo	Posted - 2004.02.19 17:10:00 - [13] Quote: 1) We had a peace agreement and fought Pirates next to you while there, Yet because you dont like 1 person you declare war on an Alliance. Its almost, but just not quite "Griefing" a player. Lay down your arms and kick the 'one' you are talking about out. We may then be able to come to an agreement. Quote: 4) 3/4 of the CHON an other corps have no Idea why thier haulers and fighters are getting Podded. Has the CEOs of NORAD actually consulted thier Corp, or just did what they wanted? Of course they were consulted, this isn't ORS you know, we're a democracy not a dictatorship. The decision to ask Geeklab to leave wasn't taken on a whim or by a single person as you well know Drac, we discussed this at length in game. Quote: 5) And as a diplomat I would a little more Tact in what you post. If you cannot be professional, then dont do the Job. You disgrace your Corp and Alliance with those actions. Blacklight hasn't disgraced anyone, the only disgrace that's taken place in the Outer Ring was putting up with the Dictatorship for so long. It doesn't matter how long the defunct ORS try to stay in The Outer Ring annoying the locals, there is NO chance of going back to the political madness that ruled there prior to Christmas. Black Nova Corporation COO
Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.02.19 17:28:00 - [14] Edited by: Drac Dragnog on 19/02/2004 17:30:42 Quote: Lay down your arms and kick the 'one' you are talking about out. We may then be able to come to an agreement. Why I dont see what you do I guess. Too bad you cant work with someone that took a leadership position, even though he didnt want to. Also that is out of the question. Would you get rid of your CEO if I asked you to? Of course they were consulted, this isn't ORS you know, we're a democracy not a dictatorship. The decision to ask Geeklab to leave wasn't taken on a whim or by a single person as you well know Drac, we discussed this at length in game. Then why do they not know what the heck is going on? Blacklight hasn't disgraced anyone, the only disgrace that's taken place in the Outer Ring was putting up with the Dictatorship for so long. It doesn't matter how long the defunct ORS try to stay in The Outer Ring annoying the locals, there is NO chance of going back to the political madness that ruled there prior to Christmas. Ok so you say that, but when you run out of Ore there I assume we will see you here? Ya know popping roids isnt the way to go... (Not saying you specifically, just your associates)As to whos here, We now have more offices and theres 3 corps that have left. Just Move NORAD where you are and get it over with. We wanted peace, you guys didnt. Disclaimer Random Babble is quite possible
Powder	Posted - 2004.02.19 17:38:00 - [15] Edited by: Powder on 19/02/2004 17:39:59 so where do you get all this cr4ck your smoking from? or does umlat/ttam just hand it out like candy to all the good little boys and girls?
Rthor	Posted - 2004.02.19 17:48:00 - [16] Drac its too many posts. Its not our style.
Riddari	Posted - 2004.02.19 18:06:00 - [17] Quote: As for the rest who dont know the story as to why this war is taking place feel free to ask me or others in Geeklab or FMG. Erm.. well since you posted here you can maybe at least tell us who "THEY" and "WE" are? ¼©¼ a history
Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.02.19 18:13:00 - [18] Quote: Quote: As for the rest who dont know the story as to why this war is taking place feel free to ask me or others in Geeklab or FMG. Erm.. well since you posted here you can maybe at least tell us who "THEY" and "WE" are? They = NORAD WE = ORS and Geeklab Disclaimer Random Babble is quite possible
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2004.02.19 20:13:00 - [19] Ive come to a conclusion after reading this post: NORAD are getting WTFPWNED
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2004.02.20 00:36:00 - [20] Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 20/02/2004 00:37:45 Drac, did you read Hamish's post ? I really must insist you correct the initial post seeing as how neither his corporation nor mine are in any way affiliated with NORAD. http://eve.klaki.net/

Cabadrin	Posted - 2004.02.20 03:15:00 - [21] It was fun spawning in fade and having 5 battleships demolish my rax suited for mining ... and killed by F-E as well. Still didn't get a podkill though; it's been a good 8 months since I've been podkilled. ----------------------------------------------- Coalition Kill Board
Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:12:00 - [22] Quote: Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 20/02/2004 00:37:45 Drac, did you read Hamish's post ? I really must insist you correct the initial post seeing as how neither his corporation nor mine are in any way affiliated with NORAD. I agree and am sorry for that. It is believed that you and Hamish were hired to mine the area for NORAD because were letting neutrals thru. Well that has stopped as well. Next time your up there say hi to Lord Zap for me... He got a Kestrel of mine... Disclaimer Random Babble is quite possible
Cabadrin	Posted - 2004.02.20 14:18:00 - [23] Quote: I agree and am sorry for that. It is believed that you and Hamish were hired to mine the area for NORAD because were letting neutrals thru. Exactly why the GSC was up there, except scratch out the "mining for NORAD" part. Black Nova was kind enough to lower the docking prices to the lowest amount and made some stuff for us. As soon as I spawned, however, no attempt was made to identify my corp and it was an indiscriminate killing. Way to go for "legit" corps like F-E, not even checking who you are firing against ... ----------------------------------------------- Coalition Kill Board
Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.02.20 17:30:00 - [24] Quote: Quote: I agree and am sorry for that. It is believed that you and Hamish were hired to mine the area for NORAD because were letting neutrals thru. Exactly why the GSC was up there, except scratch out the "mining for NORAD" part. Black Nova was kind enough to lower the docking prices to the lowest amount and made some stuff for us. As soon as I spawned, however, no attempt was made to identify my corp and it was an indiscriminate killing. Way to go for "legit" corps like F-E, not even checking who you are firing against ... Notice I said Believed. She was also told specifically that this was a no mining area for non ORS members. Twice. And her hauler lied directly to me the first time I asked what he was hauling. I gave them time to get out as well. I was being nice. They stayed. They got shot. End of discussion. Take it as a life lesson to be explicitly clear with intentions and you wont get any confusion. Disclaimer Random Babble is quite possible
Christopher Xen	Posted - 2004.02.20 17:55:00 - [25] Quote: Ive come to a conclusion after reading this post: NORAD are getting WTFPWNED I dont know what ORS did to them but the REALLY got WTFPWNED at the hands of the FE last night. Video currently being edited.
Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.02.20 18:56:00 - [26] Quick and Short: Our Leader Umlat They dont like him. They say he is too bossy, and ther personalitys clash. NORAD just wants to mine really nice Ore without having to defend anything. FE, Can you set a link here for the video as soon as its done? I want to get it out to ORS folks. Disclaimer Random Babble is quite possible
Eneroth	Posted - 2004.02.21 03:33:00 - [27] Quote: Quote: Ive come to a conclusion after reading this post: NORAD are getting WTFPWNED I dont know what ORS did to them but the REALLY got WTFPWNED at the hands of the FE last night. Video currently being edited. yeah i wanna se that vid :-) -Any fool can pull a trigger.-
Christopher Xen	Posted - 2004.02.23 18:08:00 - [28] The Video has been completed, at least the first draft. Most FE personnel who have seen it are asked not to give the link until the final version is given out. But im pleased to say most liked the footage and editing. So I expect the remaining touch ups to be done tonight so long as real life doesnt interfere.
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2004.02.24 13:40:00 - [29] Quote: 1 x Osprey - Senz 1 x Maller û Tyrrax (Non NORAD, Caught Mining, so was podded for mining in the wrong area. Was informed before entering area that this was not a free mining zone) 1 x Iteron MK IV - Hamish (Non NORAD, Caught Mining, so was podded for mining in the wrong area. Was informed before entering area that this was not a free mining zone) None of these three was podded. (Unless you mean lost our ships) And Senz is not Norad either. http://eve.klaki.net/
Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.02.24 16:22:00 - [30] Quote: None of these three was podded. (Unless you mean lost our ships) And Senz is not Norad either. This is more a list of ship kills. Cant tell what the pod kills are. Heck theres Norad ***s that are flying around in pods. We dont even count those, nor do we usually count shuttles. Heck I should bring a shuttle BP up to produce them here... Ill discount the price to 1 mil for norad folks... Also it seems that the Kills have slowed to a lull, I believe with the whooping Norad took from FE and Moo that this lil war is going to become a "cold war" or a non existant one at that. For once those pirates have helped out. (Notice the strong sarcastic irony in that statement.) Disclaimer* Random Babble is quite possible



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