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Atherin Gaius
Caldari
Domini Umbrus
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:10:00 -
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current investor of the Ki Tech bond and very happy and would like to invest in this opportunity as well.
Couple questions though.....
What is left for shares? and are we in batch one or batch two now?
your faq says you can buyy batch 1 until oct 13 but later it says that batch two starts selling on the 8th....Hopefully that means I can get in on the 100K shares.
Let me know so I can send isk.
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Atherin Gaius
Caldari
Domini Umbrus
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:16:00 -
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never mind...i should have read further down the post...
another one of the race for shares investing events...that is on MY pet peeves as well and will not invest in the future in this because of that.
Again the rich get richer and the rest of us get to watch.
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Atherin Gaius
Caldari
Domini Umbrus
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:20:00 -
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and if all the first batch of shares are getting bought prior to the announcement, why even say there is a first batch at x isk jsut so you can tell people that oh those are all gone, you need to pay more. "I'm sorry, that will be an extra 40mil. you can send it to me at teh following account."
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Atherin Gaius
Caldari
Domini Umbrus
VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Matalino
This secondary effect is too complex for me to work out in great detail to figure out exactly how much it can be worth paying for a share. but basicly the higher Datacore prices remain, the more each share is worth.
Well that is convienent...you can't tell someone how much to expect in profit.
I think you are playing too many games to get people to invest.
Of course the more complex and complicated you make it to know the expected return, the easier for you to scam your investors....
Will be interesting to see who makes the first OP about not getting a dividend next spring....
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Atherin Gaius
Caldari
Domini Umbrus
VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.07 23:04:00 -
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I understand it quite fine.
My degree is in business finance and I own two RW businesses and I won't be investing.
The IPO/BOND/UNSECURED LOAN (whatever you want to call it) has changed multiple times since it came out.
He post the Investement Opportunity on the forums with a plan for graduated share offerings with a increasing cost and decreasing risk format, people start reserving shares at the initial price and then we find out that the initial share were all purchased pre launch. I have no problem that the inital offering was pre purchased by one person, i have a problem that it wasn't communicated initialy.
Then the scope of the program doubles in size.
Next they change the risk variables and icrease the risk. (voted on by the share holders, creditors would be a better term though)
Now he changes the way shares are purchased.
I have nothing against Matalino, in fact I have money invested in his previous venture Ki-Tech.
But I don't like how this opportunity is structured...and the frequency of change.
I currently have 3mil privatly invested in one of my businesses and I know that if I made changes like this my investors would be a little nervous and I would be getting calls from them.
I realize that this is virtual currency, but why shouldn't I look at this like I would business in the real world and be able to voice my concerns? I worked hard (or as hard as you can in a computer game) for my ISK and it is much easier for someone to walk off with it here than it is in the RW.
So i will continue to be a sceptic of business opportunities no matter what you call me.
Matalino answered my concerns, like he has done to all my posts, which is what I wanted him to do, unlike you that just resorts to calling me simple.
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