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Khellias
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:13:00 -
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A corpmate, just recently having picked up the game, wants to eventually be an artillery-packing dread pilot. What all skills would be suggested for this lofty end goal? I've given him the list to passively boost his cap, CPU, grid, shield, armor, and hull, but what else would he need to be a good pilot in this regard?
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:03:00 -
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Start by informing him that Minmatar capitals are not worth training towards - especially if he is starting from scratch.
well, to add to the list, the Jump drive skills are also needed.
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Nocturnal Avenger
The Ankou
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 13:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Atius Tirawa
Start by informing him that Minmatar capitals are not worth training towards - especially if he is starting from scratch.
But... it looks so fine...
Besides - by the time he is finished, the nerfbat may have hit the other races. You just never know.
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Amuko
Amarr
Happy Little Roid Huggers
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Posted - 2007.10.04 17:09:00 -
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Tell your friend that unless he feels like only flying in lagging pos battles he should aim for something else first, something fun for pvp/pve (whatever it is he likes).
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Mudkest
MetaForge
Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.10.04 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Mudkest on 04/10/2007 19:05:41
missile skills. Seeing naglfar suffers from the split perso erh weapon syndrom you'll need both proj turrets and capital torpedoes on it(or waste half the bonus and half the highslots on it)
other then that, both capital armor and shield tank as agian it suffers from dual persona ehr tank capabilities.
might as well get drone skills up to finish the list and have the (support) skills to fly every minmatar ship(and about half the galante, caldari and amar ships as well)
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:01:00 -
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Dreads are delegated to POS warfare and anti-capital work for a reason. In any other PvP situation, they're basically flying bricks, with blind-as-heck gunners.
VERY tough flying bricks though.
I'd strongly advise he learns the basics of PvP and look for another long-term goal, like skilling for another racial ship family and being multi-faceted
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Khellias
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.05 21:08:00 -
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I'll pass everyone's advice along on that. So if he wants to maintain Minmatar ship skills, what ships would fit his desire for something relatively tough with a lot of guns?
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BlackMoon Thrawn
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.06 01:52:00 -
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All the cool kids are flying sleipners nowdays.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2007.10.06 12:57:00 -
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3 mill skill points in every skill tree catagory except the fallowing.
gunnery minimum 8 mill skill points spaceship command 13 mill skill points
race related exceptions:
minmitar and cildari 6 mill in missile.
minmitar and galentee 6 mill drones
galentee and amarr 6 mill mechanic.
your looking at years before you can fly a capital ship without it being like an oversized tin can. to many players losing cap ships because they think ther invincable the minint the sit in the cocpit.
but nooo a well skilled bs kill your cap ship and you want to quit eve because you dipressed.
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Amuko
Amarr
Happy Little Roid Huggers
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Posted - 2007.10.06 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Emporors Champian
3 mill skill points in every skill tree catagory except the fallowing.
gunnery minimum 8 mill skill points spaceship command 13 mill skill points
race related exceptions:
minmitar and cildari 6 mill in missile.
minmitar and galentee 6 mill drones
galentee and amarr 6 mill mechanic.
your looking at years before you can fly a capital ship without it being like an oversized tin can. to many players losing cap ships because they think ther invincable the minint the sit in the cocpit.
but nooo a well skilled bs kill your cap ship and you want to quit eve because you dipressed.
A single well skilled BS? hah, yeah right.
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Mekk Azal
November Night Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.07 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Amuko
Originally by: Emporors Champian
3 mill skill points in every skill tree catagory except the fallowing.
gunnery minimum 8 mill skill points spaceship command 13 mill skill points
race related exceptions:
minmitar and cildari 6 mill in missile.
minmitar and galentee 6 mill drones
galentee and amarr 6 mill mechanic.
your looking at years before you can fly a capital ship without it being like an oversized tin can. to many players losing cap ships because they think ther invincable the minint the sit in the cocpit.
but nooo a well skilled bs kill your cap ship and you want to quit eve because you dipressed.
A single well skilled BS? hah, yeah right.
Im sure its manageble, in some very very odd situations.
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Johnathon Desoto
United Federation of Planetary Systems
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Posted - 2007.10.11 08:38:00 -
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Surprisingly enough, i heard a story that a solidly T2 fitted Myrmidon using T2 drones and a lot of ammo killed an afk dreadnought.
Not sure whether its true or not
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RaTTuS
BIG
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.11 09:07:00 -
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Aim for Mini BS as a semi far goal first ... well
aim to fly a stabber well, umm
do it this way
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head for Assult Frigs
then do Cruisers
then Do HAC's
then Do BS
then Do new T"2s BS
when you are really happy with all teh skills you need for those then go for the Dread ;-P
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.11 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger
Originally by: Atius Tirawa
Start by informing him that Minmatar capitals are not worth training towards - especially if he is starting from scratch.
But... it looks so fine...
Besides - by the time he is finished, the nerfbat may have hit the other races. You just never know.
I am serious, train minmatar and fly their CSs and such all they want, but for cap ships - the 'correct dread' is the Revelation, and for carriers its either the Thanatos or the Archon - and no - we are not getting buffed. To be honest, Nagfars die so fast for a dread its not funney. . .if you are going to drop a bill and a half on a ship and spend 2 years training properly for it - chose the right one. Its all about the tank - and to be honest - we minmatar are not a sit and tank race. . .its only right that the major tanker race get the best caps i guess.
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Emperors Righthand
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Posted - 2007.10.12 12:26:00 -
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i have seen a huge war where everything titan size and down died except the dreads slugging it out quit to a stailmate.
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Danny Centurai
New Age Solutions
New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Amuko
Originally by: Emporors Champian
3 mill skill points in every skill tree catagory except the fallowing.
gunnery minimum 8 mill skill points spaceship command 13 mill skill points
race related exceptions:
minmitar and cildari 6 mill in missile.
minmitar and galentee 6 mill drones
galentee and amarr 6 mill mechanic.
your looking at years before you can fly a capital ship without it being like an oversized tin can. to many players losing cap ships because they think ther invincable the minint the sit in the cocpit.
but nooo a well skilled bs kill your cap ship and you want to quit eve because you dipressed.
A single well skilled BS? hah, yeah right.
We killed a carrier with a large armor rep fitted... atleast it had T2 hardeners. So you never know =s. Still stop being a forum smack *****. =)
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Amuko
Amarr
Happy Little Roid Huggers
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Posted - 2007.10.12 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Danny Centurai
Originally by: Amuko
Originally by: Emporors Champian
3 mill skill points in every skill tree catagory except the fallowing.
gunnery minimum 8 mill skill points spaceship command 13 mill skill points
race related exceptions:
minmitar and cildari 6 mill in missile.
minmitar and galentee 6 mill drones
galentee and amarr 6 mill mechanic.
your looking at years before you can fly a capital ship without it being like an oversized tin can. to many players losing cap ships because they think ther invincable the minint the sit in the cocpit.
but nooo a well skilled bs kill your cap ship and you want to quit eve because you dipressed.
A single well skilled BS? hah, yeah right.
We killed a carrier with a large armor rep fitted... atleast it had T2 hardeners. So you never know =s. Still stop being a forum smack *****. =)
''We'' implies that you were not just one BS, I'm sure it's possible, but would take a very long time. And stop being so damn sensitive, that's no smacking.
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Ararius
EP0CH
Black Sun Cartel
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Posted - 2007.10.12 18:48:00 -
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The Nalf is worth it for the fact that it's vertical 
Im ugly, just look at my face!
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Acacia Everto
Wings of Redemption
Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.12 19:34:00 -
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Sure you want some certain skills maxed, such as cap skills, weapon support skills, but in reality you don't need 15 gazillion points in every category to be good. I don't know where 13m in SS Command was pulled from, but that sounds like multiple races being trained to 5. I would say that you want good drone skills (if not maxed for relevant skills), Capital reps (skill at 4, doesn't take that long), maxed cap skills/fitting skills. Cap skills are probably among the most important to train to 5.
Capital ships are a lofty goal, but it doesn't need 3 years of training to achieve.
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