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Ikki Phoenix
Gallente
Karnage Club
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:12:00 -
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So,I need to understand something
Diplomats are here to deal with questions,requests and other diplomatic things concerning alliances,correct?
Then why do alliances name as diplomats people who don't respond to evemail, chat invites and such?
I would think you would want someone mature and responsible enough to respond to messages.
I don't know.Maybe it is just me.....
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Major Dim
Caldari
RUS HOLDING
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:18:00 -
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Cuz maybe many just dont care to post/update their dips info while beeing buisy with other stuff? easiest wy to get a dip is to meet a large gang of them and to sak the FC for a contact.
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Jarryn Kell
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:35:00 -
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it's probably because tons of pubbies, lowlifes, beggars, and other assorted trash annoy them to no end, all day long. no one worth a damn has the time to deal with all that junk.
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Ikki Phoenix
Gallente
Karnage Club
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:36:00 -
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I don't mean about updating.I am talking about responding to questions about alliance on evemail,accepting chat requests and such
Takes 2 minutes to write something like "Please be patient as we respond to your questions" or something
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Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:44:00 -
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From my perspective it has a lot to do with workload. Not every diplomat's job is going to be that rough just based upon the size or activity level of the entity for which they "work." However, I would hazard to guess that diplomats that work for larger alliances are very busy.
Depending upon how conscientious they are about their job, probably spend the majority of their "playing time" in chats in-game, out of game or on voice comms.
From my own perspective, I often have multiple conversations going at once and there have been times when I've carried them out using all three mediums of communication concurrently.
Notice..I haven't even begun to discuss the deluge of eve-mails that come through daily.
Quit often, the moment I log in, I get convo'd about something.
If days go by between my log-ins because of RL, the problems are compounded. My guess is that it's not that much different for most diplomats in the game.
Yes..there may be some lazy/unless diplomats out there, but I'd be inclined to give people the benefit of the doubt...heheh.
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Jermaine Jackson
Post With Jermaine
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Jarryn Kell
it's probably because tons of pubbies, lowlifes, beggars, and other assorted trash annoy them to no end, all day long. no one worth a damn has the time to deal with all that junk.
this
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quellious
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.04 22:08:00 -
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You were just unlucky to pick an alliance where diplomat do not answer fast. Some other alliances have good response time.
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Anton March
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jarryn Kell
it's probably because tons of pubbies, lowlifes, beggars, and other assorted trash annoy them to no end, all day long. no one worth a damn has the time to deal with all that junk.
This.
I was a corp/alliance diplomat for a while. I was ****ed off that I couldn't get diplomats from larger alliances to get back to me.
Then after we got bigger, I understood. People up your ass all the time about all sorts of ****, and you've got to prioritize. If someone from somewhere you've never heard of is emailing you about something that's not of decent benefit to you, it falls by the wayside.
Then I left that alliance, and now I just shoot stuff.
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shivan
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.05 03:13:00 -
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As a diplo for SA and then Ka-Tet, I have prided myself on always responding to someone within at least 24 hours, 48 hours is the absoulte max I have ever left anyone, unless I have been on holiday that is. I personaly would always respond at least letting people know that I will have to get back to them if I couldn't answer their question directly.
My guess, you picked a bad or lazy alliance diplo.
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Zizoo
No Quarter.
Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2007.10.05 03:19:00 -
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Even being a small alliance / corp, I can tell you I get lots of convo's and loads of mail. Sometimes the mails are so far out I dont even respond. Make sure when sending eve mails to include as much info as you can and be as clear as possible. Also leave out anything to do with Epeen or your diplo might just /la and slap the delete button.
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CiNi
FireStar Inc
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Posted - 2007.10.05 07:56:00 -
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Its been my experience that alliance diplo's are usually chosen from two distinc groups.
There are the ones who have replied, such as Orree here who are chosen because they are the right person for the job, because, well.... they are diplomatic.
Then theres the other kind who are intenitonally chosen because they are course and arrogant people who will be ruthless when dealing with other diplo's and wont take any crap from folk.
Both kinds have thier advantages and disadvantages in a game like this so i'm not making a judgement on thier styles. Mainly because its not a job i would want hehe
It sounds to me like you have encountered the second kind. Unfortunately these are generally the ones who feel that the majority of people are not worthy of thier time.
Or ofcourse they could just be a lazy ****
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pershphanie
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2007.10.05 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: shivan
As a diplo for SA and then Ka-Tet, I have prided myself on always responding to someone within at least 24 hours, 48 hours is the absoulte max
Lets test this.
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Centauris
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.05 11:52:00 -
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Become a diplomat of one of the larger alliances and im sure you will see the answer.
Oree is pretty much on the money, the workload is the big thing and another is that 2/3 of all mails is something thats un-important and you should take that as a no, or its some reject you have never heard of who wants to join your alliance or get blue status somewhere :P
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shivan
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.05 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: shivan
As a diplo for SA and then Ka-Tet, I have prided myself on always responding to someone within at least 24 hours, 48 hours is the absoulte max
Lets test this.
congrats at taking it outta context 
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WrathOfOprah
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.05 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ikki Phoenix
So,I need to understand something
Diplomats are here to deal with questions,requests and other diplomatic things concerning alliances,correct?
Then why do alliances name as diplomats people who don't respond to evemail, chat invites and such?
I would think you would want someone mature and responsible enough to respond to messages.
I don't know.Maybe it is just me.....
Oh I remember you. LOL!
You really should change the name. You sound like a bunch of ICP Juggalos.
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pershphanie
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2007.10.06 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: shivan
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: shivan
As a diplo for SA and then Ka-Tet, I have prided myself on always responding to someone within at least 24 hours, 48 hours is the absoulte max
Lets test this.
congrats at taking it outta context
it was true though. GJ. less than 24hrs. you win.
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Ungdall
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 03:45:00 -
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You should talk to Deadtear, he knows a lot about being a diplomat.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2007.10.06 03:51:00 -
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Being a diplo, or CEO for that matter, can get tiresome with all the useless convos. I always preferred mail myself. I can handle 10 mails in 10 minutes easily, but one convo takes 10 minutes most of the time.
I've found that when trying to contact other diplos, that being polite and very specific and detailed in what you are requesting usually get the best response. A "hey, we wanna be BFF's, convo me if interested" will almost always get ignored. 
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Ungdall
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.06 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav
I've found that when trying to contact other diplos, that being polite and very specific and detailed in what you are requesting usually get the best response. A "hey, we wanna be BFF's, convo me if interested" will almost always get ignored.
You should take lessons from our diplomats, it's amazing what they can do.
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Athelas Loraiel
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.10.06 10:02:00 -
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Diplo response is what comes first on my Eve day.
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zoolkhan
Minmatar
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.10.06 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ikki Phoenix
why do alliances name as diplomats people who don't respond to evemail, chat invites and such?
I would think you would want someone mature and responsible enough to respond to messages.
a) i doubt you testet that with every alliance that exist.
i go as far as to believe your entire experience on that matters
narrows down to 1-2 trials/alliances in total.
b) even alliance diplomats go to toilets, feed their children
or answer RL phone calls - yes even when theyre logged on.
Some of them even dare to be in operations , or other diplomatic chats
when you ring the bell.
Originally by: Ikki PhoenixI don't know.Maybe it is just me.....[/quote
I am pretty sure it is.
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Pinkoir
Caldari
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:06:00 -
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EVE-Diplos should unite to demand an out-box and folders for the in-box. It's damned annoying having to make notes about who has been responded to and who hasn't.
People who put hate onto diplos for not responding instantly need to relax and understand that for many diplos, especially those in the larger alliances, the game barely exists anymore except as a badly written Outlook sim. If the diplo you are trying to contact doesn't get back to you right away maybe it's because he decided to see what his ship looked like in space instead of in a station for once :)
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ungdall
Originally by: NATMav
I've found that when trying to contact other diplos, that being polite and very specific and detailed in what you are requesting usually get the best response. A "hey, we wanna be BFF's, convo me if interested" will almost always get ignored.
You should take lessons from our diplomats, it's amazing what they can do.
I <3 your diplos.
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