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Wild Winnie
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:08:00 -
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Iw spent hours planning the reserch pos. Asking questions everywhere as the ingame information is completely rubbish. Iw donloaded a pos planner, compared what i need with whats possible. Bought the expencive modules, carried they around like a baby then i get the usual CCP slap in the face.
The way too customary tiny detail that is not described anywhere ingame, and is barely mention outof game but wich ruin everything youw planned. THANKS ALOT!
Would it kill you to mention that setting up a pos requires 6+ RAW faction->corp standing, and not faction->You? And why on eart would CCP make such a game mechanic that forces ppl to start a personal/small corp?
And when i pay the minimum 50mill a month for a pos, hauling expencive T2 sheit into lowsec. Then i get slagged with 10% extra manufacture cost?
Iw waisted hours and hours for nothing because of lack of ingame info. The only place that decribes pos in highsec is a pdf file on eve files. This is not how it should be!
Its darn frustrating to look at the 20h manufacture que in station (12j of nerest trade hub) not to mention the ME lineup, and know the mechanic to solve it is in place but its detail is tweekd so its useless. Would it kill you to make it useful, or have the decency to describe why it's not inside the game?
+6 corp standing. That doesnt promote group/corp effort. That means ppl are kicked from corp unless they have the right standing, or a small dedicated corp is created.
+10% waste to T2 ship production. That makes advansed shiplab useless anywhere near empire
The only useful pos asseembly is Efficient Equipment Assembly Array, and that cost 500mill. Whssup with that?
If the resoning is to add manufacture capability in deepspace then you have forgotten about empire altogether. Because of there rulez, there is no dynamic slots in empire, wich means all regular slots are overloaded. When 2 ppl can max out all manufacturing and resercslots in a station indefinately then somthings wrong.
Dont mention Slots or pos to me or im gonna puke....
Rant out
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Helen Hunts
Gallente
Red Dragon Mining inc
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:09:00 -
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I don't know where you're trying to manufacture, but I've never had a problem finding a few dozen free slots. 20 hours wait makes me think you're trying to work in a trade hub of some sort (Jita?)....which is convenient for direct access to market, but you'll pay for it in wait time. Find someplace nearby that's not so crowded and build your heart out. Just a couple jumps out from Oursulart gives one plenty of options. (Researching ME still is a royal pain though)
Also, the Science & Industry window will only show what's in your current region when you look for slots. Try going into a nearby region and see what opens up for you there.
As for standings and the rest....the information has been here, waiting for you to look for it.
Still, you appear to have learned something from this, so it's not a total loss.
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Johnathon Desoto
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:09:00 -
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Now hold on a sec...
From what i can gather your ranting about the fact that its not written anyway about the standings required for a high-sec POS, Wrong.
The answer is posted all over this very forum section. But your ranting about ingame info. Well i'm very sorry that you've never heard of something called the knowledgebase. You also say about extra manufacturing costs, well your right on there.
You also say about the lack of slots in empire, well there is both good and bad sense there. It stops there being to much of a single item on the market, hence acting as 'stabilization antibodies', but the downside is its twice as hard for new people to get onto the research and building ladder.
And no offense if English isn't your first language, but could you please just check your grammer before posting. It makes it easier to understand.
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Wild Winnie
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:33:00 -
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And where in knowledgbase do you fint the info im ranting about???
Knowledbase POS link
This is just what frustrates me, vital pices of information missing. Their not ingame, and are not easely acessible outofgame. To claim that its possible to find it if you look hard enough tru forum just proves my point.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
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Posted - 2007.10.06 16:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Wild Winnie
The only useful pos asseembly is Efficient Equipment Assembly Array, and that cost 500mill. Whssup with that?
Actually, it costs 450m, but it only has 1 slot, making it one of the least useful structures. The only thing it's good for is mineral compression, and even then it involves lots more hauling than using an NPC slot and placing buy orders.
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Posted - 2007.10.06 23:22:00 -
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It's faction -> corp standing because you can't launch a corp for yourself. POS' are corp ONLY assets.
I thought that was kind of obvious considering you can only purchase "corp hanger arrays" and not "hanger arrays".
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Wild Winnie
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Posted - 2007.10.07 00:50:00 -
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What on eart is obvios about that? I dont want a corp hangar array and i dont need it either to manufacture or research. So this is just one of the more things that are not described and are not commmon knoledge, and not even logical. Why cant i own my on Player Owned Structure? is 100mill deemed too much? And why on earth are CCP forcing people OUT of corps and into alt corps/ personal corps????
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Masheine
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Posted - 2007.10.07 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Winnie
Why cant i own my on Player Owned Structure? is 100mill deemed too much? And why on earth are CCP forcing people OUT of corps and into alt corps/ personal corps????
Because if you're far enough into the game that you need to setup a POS, then you're far enough into the game to deal with being war dec'd, and CCP wants you to experience PVP.
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Wild Winnie
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Posted - 2007.10.07 01:10:00 -
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Riiight, so how many of you are gonna war dec a 1man corp to blow up a reserch pos in high sec? And in lowsec anyone kan blow it up anyhow. And even if you set it up for personal use a war dec at you corp should make it killable in highsec.
And i do have my fair share of kills both of regular ship capital ships and poeses.
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