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Lady Rayge
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Posted - 2007.10.07 10:08:00 -
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Hi there, I was looking through some of the faction ships and noticed something odd. Every race gets a faction combat cruiser except amarr. Why is it that amarr are lumped with a faction logistics ship?? or is there something i'm missing about this cruiser. I noticed it has 7 low slots so is it meant to be some sort of uber tank? No setups listed in the sticky either. is this just yet another example of "oooops... i chose amarr"? thanks
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Niffetin
Gallente CONsordium Infinate
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Posted - 2007.10.07 10:42:00 -
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Noob ---
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General Apocalypse
Amarr The Merchant Marines
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Posted - 2007.10.07 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Rayge Hi there, I was looking through some of the faction ships and noticed something odd. Every race gets a faction combat cruiser except amarr. Why is it that amarr are lumped with a faction logistics ship?? or is there something i'm missing about this cruiser. I noticed it has 7 low slots so is it meant to be some sort of uber tank? No setups listed in the sticky either. is this just yet another example of "oooops... i chose amarr"? thanks
WTS : Forums 101 .
The ANG can get as high as 60K armor HP . That about all you can do whit it . Someone knew the setup but he took it whit him in the grave . 
Originally by: CCP Morpheus nerf ccp plz
Originally by: CCP Oveur To the gankmobile!
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Sardu Kar
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:08:00 -
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Yes i'm a noob.... your powers of deduction are astounding. With brain power that awe inspiring that first gold star on your McDonalds name tag can't be far off. 
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:33:00 -
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To me, it doesn't look like a standard Auguror. The Navy Auguror looks like a standard heavy armor-tanked laser boat, perfectly in line with the Amarrian mold. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |

Azuse
The Brotherhood Of The Blade Pure.
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:55:00 -
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Actually 45-60k is quite common. Pimped out in a gang you can top 125k it just costs billions.
If your willing to settel for 30ish k then its one of the only faction cruisers that will give hac serious problems. -------------------------------------------
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Sardu Kar
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Posted - 2007.10.07 12:18:00 -
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Hmm this could be an interesting ship afterall. So i'm guessing to get a 1600 plate on it would have to fit small guns? like the maller?
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Mr Reeth
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:19:00 -
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Do a forum search for this topic. There already is a very good thread about this. Not trying to be rude but there really isnt more to be said than what was said.
But I will tell you that this ship is one of, if not the, nastiest heavy tackler there is. Once it gets a hold of you it really hard to get rid of it, especially if it's gang members are useing repper drones.
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Udyr Vulpayne
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:56:00 -
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its a boosted maller with 3 light drones more armor and generally a bit more of everything. nothing to get excited about really unless you like to fly obvious bait ships. looks nice though.
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Mr Reeth
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Udyr Vulpayne its a boosted maller with 3 light drones more armor and generally a bit more of everything. nothing to get excited about really unless you like to fly obvious bait ships. looks nice though.
It's not just any obvious bait ship! It's THE obvious bait ship! Any KOS will recognize you for what you are, as the ship has just one roll.
But pirates tend to attack first ask questions never. Do you think if you fly this ship in low sec nobody will attack you? If thats the case I think it just became the best small transport ship ever.
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Lady Rayge
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:36:00 -
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With regards to PvE, could this ship handle lvl 3's?
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Doctor Sunshine
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:40:00 -
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does hanns still play?
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Udyr Vulpayne
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:48:00 -
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it can propably handle some lvl3s but i dont think its performance there will be very impressive. the armor hp bonus is more suited for a large buffer tank which is more useful in pvp instead of pve.
you're likely better off doing lvl3s in a retri, harbinger or zealot (if you want to really burst through them in style).
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Gold Rogers
Solitude Empires United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Gold Rogers on 08/10/2007 20:15:32
Originally by: General Apocalypse
The ANG can get as high as 60K armor HP . That about all you can do whit it . Someone knew the setup but he took it whit him in the grave . 
Try 1600mm plate, 2 x 800mm plates. Some energized regenerative membrane IIs. 3 x Trimark armor pumps.
Mind you I doubt you can fit much else to it, but you'll have plenty of armor.
Originally by: Lady Rayge With regards to PvE, could this ship handle lvl 3's?
Yes but it's a bit slow. ---------
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BlackHawk177
Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Gold Rogers Edited by: Gold Rogers on 08/10/2007 20:34:18 Edited by: Gold Rogers on 08/10/2007 20:25:32
Originally by: General Apocalypse
The ANG can get as high as 60K armor HP . That about all you can do whit it . Someone knew the setup but he took it whit him in the grave . 
Try 1600mm plate, 2 x 800mm plates. Energized regenerative membrane IIs in the free lows. 3 x Trimark armor pumps.
According to quickfit that's 74k of armor but you'd need to fit small guns.
Yea, but that was 60k armor before rigs were even thought about. >.>
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Dheorl
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: Dheorl on 08/10/2007 21:24:09 No offense to DE, he was a great guys but it doesn't mean he could magically do stuff the rest of the EVE population couldn't manage.
Use your brain, I'm sitting here looking at a setup with 55k armour hp before rigs and it took me about 30 seconds to figure out.
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Gold Rogers
Solitude Empires United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.08 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Gold Rogers on 08/10/2007 21:41:20
Originally by: BlackHawk177
Yea, but that was 60k armor before rigs were even thought about. >.>
If you use Rolled Tungsten instead of Tech II (1600mm) you can get 93k of armor, I just updated my post.
The best I can manage without rigs is only 43k :( That's without expensive faction mods though.
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Jack Jombardo
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Posted - 2007.10.09 04:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Jombardo on 09/10/2007 04:36:54 As the slotlayout and ship-bonis are total different to a normal Agu this ship seams to be realy cool. To bad that somebody who actualy could use it (means can just fly Cruiser and does level 2 missions) has no real changs to get one except wastring millions of ISK :(.
I made my way to a standing of nearly 7 for Viziam just with level 2 missions becouse my skills are to bad for level 3/4 missions but I'm nowhere near the amount of LP I'd need for a Navy-Frig. Well, now I trained BC/BS and it would be absolut sensless to buy a Navy-Frig/Cruiser except for e-peen :(.
I'd wish, my agents would offer me one if my standing to him reached 9+. level 1 offers Navy Frig, level 2 Navy Cruiser, level 3 Navy BC ... ups, there isn't one *g*. ye, but you get what I mean. Don't bother with Navys below BS and better train Assault, BC, HAC. It's cheaper, faster AND better!
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Gold Rogers
Solitude Empires United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.09 07:28:00 -
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I believe you still can get "free" faction ships however it's linked to faction standing not corp.
I think it's something silly like:
9.2 - Frigate 9.4 - Cruiser 9.8 - Battleship
But by the time you actually have that standing you'd have more than enough isk / LP to buy the damn things. ---------
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.09 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth
It's not just any obvious bait ship! It's THE obvious bait ship! Any KOS will recognize you for what you are, as the ship has just one roll.
Yup i agree i recognise it for what it is 
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2007.10.09 14:01:00 -
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Navy augorer isnt half bad, ugly as hell but its stats are more akin to maller or omen. And its not like any of the other faction cruisers are particularly awesome, either. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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Udyr Vulpayne
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.09 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Udyr Vulpayne on 09/10/2007 14:12:49
Originally by: Del Narveux Navy augorer isnt half bad, ugly as hell but its stats are more akin to maller or omen. And its not like any of the other faction cruisers are particularly awesome, either.
navy caracal, fleet stabber or navy vexor are all vastly superior to the navy aug for pvp uses. problem is that its based on 2 cruisers (maller and aug) that both have a lot of issues. navy omen or arbitrator would likely be a lot better. the only advantage the navy aug really has are its looks.
also this thread has so far mised the main issue with the navy aug and its other variations: they are spelled wrong/differently (auguror vs augoror).
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.10.09 14:13:00 -
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I don't quite understand, the maller is a sweet pvp ship, the navy augoror is a beefed up maller?
Navy vexor is marginally better than the vexor?
Postcount: 561580 [02:40:22] <elmickers> if you're caldari in a fleet fight, bring a corp
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Udyr Vulpayne
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.09 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah I don't quite understand, the maller is a sweet pvp ship, the navy augoror is a beefed up maller?
Navy vexor is marginally better than the vexor?
navy vexor gets 2 more lowslots over the normal vexor (removing the main weakness of this cruiser), a bigger dronebay and generally more of everything. and a vexor is one of the top pvp cruisers to start with. on top of that it has 2 extremly useful bonuses resulting in a very good damageoutput.
maller on the other hand is merely a bait ship and heavy tackler. damage is pitiful and only gets increased by a 15m3 dronebay on the navy aug. the laser capuse bonus is just as wasted on this ship as it is on the normal maller. to be successful against top pvp cruisers you will most likely need to bait them into coming into web range and then dual web them and somehow hope that your weak damage will eventually break them before they train up an alt to come and rescue their ship.
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