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Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:15:00 - [1] Full insurance on a Scorpion now exceeds the cost of buying one by approx. 8M isk. Are we going back to the old days of cheap and easy to replace insured BS? LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Riddari	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:17:00 - [2] Should ensure more battles? ¼©¼ a history
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:18:00 - [3] Hopefully - I may go on a suicide run with my Scorpion this afternoon LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Riddari	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:22:00 - [4] btw your color coding is fugly! ¼©¼ a history
Beringe	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:24:00 - [5] Maybe this will be offset by more expensive T2 modules. Although off-the-shelves modules on a scorp is nothing to scoff at, in my experience. ------------------------------------------- "My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead." "No, it's none of your business."
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:25:00 - [6] Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 20/02/2004 13:26:17 Someone explain it to Mastiphal. I can't be bothered. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
PropanElgen	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:29:00 - [7] 71 mill payout (Platinum insurance) -21 mill cost = 50 mill Are you saying Scorps cost 42M, Safespot? All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:30:00 - [8] Quote: 71 mill payout (Platinum insurance) -21 mill cost = 50 mill Are you saying Scorps cost 42M, Safespot? And the cycle can be started again for a layout of 25-30M isk. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Jebidus Skari	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:31:00 - [9] plus the cost of replacing the lost modules
PropanElgen	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:38:00 - [10] Edited by: PropanElgen on 20/02/2004 13:38:57 Edited by: PropanElgen on 20/02/2004 13:38:36 Quote: Quote: 71 mill payout (Platinum insurance) -21 mill cost = 50 mill Are you saying Scorps cost 42M, Safespot? And the cycle can be started again for a layout of 25-30M isk. Ok so forget the initial 21 mill. For the 71 mill you get you need a new ship and a new insurance. That would still mean if the ship costs more than 50 mill, you will have to use more than the 71 mill the payout was. And then there are modules, like Jebidus said.. All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:40:00 - [11] Didn't say it was free - just that once you get a BS (lvl 1, at least) it's a matter of earning 25-30M to ensure a quick replacement. 30M is easy isk. Of course, it depends on how often you lose 'em. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Deloup Drakar	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:46:00 - [12] Quote: plus the cost of replacing the lost modules No need to have modules on your ship if you can shell out less money for the insurance than you paid for the ship, go get it blown up by a friend outside the station and recieve more isk than it took to build the ship. Rinse and Repeat and you got yourself a nice source of income again thx to the lower prices of megacyte (lower than a few montha ago, getting back to normal prices though)
Burga Galti	Posted - 2004.02.20 13:48:00 - [13] Sounds like a recipe for insurance fraud to me. Tales from the EVE Cluster
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.02.20 14:16:00 - [14] It costs 42 million to build a scorp from raw based materials. BUT Getting those materials together is a hassle, a big big hassle. Who in thier right mind is gonna get all those materials together, build the scorps and then blow them up, for 8 million??? Like ass. That is about right, market price is about 50 anyway, and if you can get them at trade, that 8 mill barely covers a few modules. No big deal. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Alustrious	Posted - 2004.02.20 14:55:00 - [15] ya like jeb said, modules....
shivan	Posted - 2004.02.20 15:38:00 - [16] Ever thought about mining the basics, will only take me a week if i really wanted to mine for a bs. --------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Tease	Posted - 2004.02.20 16:05:00 - [17] Quote: It costs 42 million to build a scorp from raw based materials. BUT Getting those materials together is a hassle, a big big hassle. Who in thier right mind is gonna get all those materials together, build the scorps and then blow them up, for 8 million??? Like ass. Someone will though, just so they can whine to CCP about "insurance scams" in an attempt to nerf something that is better just left alone. ----------------------------------------- [2003.12.17 06:35:20] Corwin > Orvolle is .4? Doesn't that mean that it's less than .5 ? and isn't .5 what starts the danger level? [2003.12.30 07:15:50] Corwin > Tech 2, IE expanded cargo holds I, MIning lasers 2, etc.... TL2 is being released all around you [2003.12.30 07:21:20] Corwin > tech 2 is released to players. Some players are busy researching the BPs before building stuff. Others are sitting on the BPs making copies to make money off of them that way
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2004.02.20 16:23:00 - [18] Quote: It costs 42 million to build a scorp from raw based materials. BUT Getting those materials together is a hassle, a big big hassle. Who in thier right mind is gonna get all those materials together, build the scorps and then blow them up, for 8 million??? That is about right, market price is about 50 anyway... That makes no sense. If nobody's going to bother getting all the materials together and building them, for the sake of 8 million ... who's selling them for 8 million profit? _______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age."
qrac	Posted - 2004.02.20 16:57:00 - [19] buy, insure, destroy before insurance runs out, buy, insure, destroy before insurance run out... ------------------------------------------- Insanes numquam moriuntur!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.02.20 17:22:00 - [20] Quote: buy, insure, destroy before insurance runs out, buy, insure, destroy before insurance run out... Noooo, build, destroy, build, destroy, build, destroy. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
qrac	Posted - 2004.02.20 17:35:00 - [21] Quote: Quote: buy, insure, destroy before insurance runs out, buy, insure, destroy before insurance run out... Noooo, build, destroy, build, destroy, build, destroy. is that techell's new business plan? ------------------------------------------- Insanes numquam moriuntur!
Deloup Drakar	Posted - 2004.02.20 21:37:00 - [22] Quote: Noooo, build, destroy, build, destroy, build, destroy. is that techell's new business plan? Back before the price spike, that was some people's plan for income lol
MaC X	Posted - 2004.02.20 22:00:00 - [23] "1396 Insurance contracts are 6 weeks long now."
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.02.20 22:07:00 - [24] Quote: "1396 Insurance contracts are 6 weeks long now." I'm waiting for the uproar over that LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Athule Snanm	Posted - 2004.02.20 22:38:00 - [25] Quote: ...Getting those materials together is a hassle, a big big hassle. Who in thier right mind is gonna get all those materials together, build the scorps and then blow them up, for 8 million??? Like ass. Actually, just set up a buy order (or even better arrange a contract with a mining corp) in a station where you have a factory - the cheap minerals build up eventually and it certainly is no hassle to buy and transport the expensive ones. Not exactly mega-money to be sure, but then again it requires almost no work. Never actually done what I've suggested above myself, although I have done a few 'long walks' into asteroid belts with no modules fitted in the past. With insurance set at 6 weeks I doubt I'd bother though. _______________________________ Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.02.23 16:49:00 - [26] Quote: Quote: 71 mill payout (Platinum insurance) -21 mill cost = 50 mill Are you saying Scorps cost 42M, Safespot? I think he is, Propan. You don't want to explain it to me Spot, cause you would realise your post doesn't make sense? Unless bs's drop to like 30-40mil, mega prices are down to 4k again, insurance won't be profitable. And when that happens, you can yell exploit cause insurance is abused and ppl are making killer profits Hi nimrod. Read the posts by other people then consider your response more carefully. Building, insuring, and destroying a Scorp gives you 8M profit. Geddit? LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

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