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Jungle KungFu Minmatar Dickens-Cider	Posted - 2007.10.09 18:02:00 - [61] Originally by: MarKand Originally by: Jungle KungFu Velios track record Bitter rant Ohh, you must be one of those that got left behind. In the cold space all alone, thank God somebody pitty you and made you a wealthy char so you can buy other chars to play with. Besides that, get back to Jungle KungFu, have a banana, or better have two. Becouse all this bitternes isnt good for you, but I bet some bananas will make you smile again. /M Watching your utter failure has put a on my face that no amount of bananas ever could. Besides you could call it a "bitter rant" but you cant deny any of it. Just take it like a man, when the going gets tough you guys look for the quickest way out, lot's of people play that way apparently bob just didn't want anymore of them.
Jags Minmatar M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.09 18:07:00 - [62] Velios has hardly been on for ages , too busy making a dent in the EU pancake mountain We have had fun , we have made mistakes **loads of them , ** happens we move on. Where to I dunno but we will decide soon and bring some big toys with us when we move.
Alte Schabracke University of Caille	Posted - 2007.10.09 18:17:00 - [63] Originally by: Jags Velios has hardly been on for ages , too busy making a dent in the EU pancake mountain We have had fun , we have made mistakes **loads of them , ** happens we move on. Where to I dunno but we will decide soon and bring some big toys with us when we move. Hulks ?
DeTox MinRohim Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.09 18:41:00 - [64] Originally by: Alte Schabracke Originally by: Jags Velios has hardly been on for ages , too busy making a dent in the EU pancake mountain We have had fun , we have made mistakes **loads of them , ** happens we move on. Where to I dunno but we will decide soon and bring some big toys with us when we move. Hulks ? Hell yea... but I need the skillbook so I'll visit your University of Caille soon, alt! On another subject, I just need to stay sober before Kra gets drunk this weekend to make sure I don't give him 6B... ... ... will be hard... ------ This sig space is Read-only ! omgalink - Online Skillsheet
Tissa Minmatar UK Corp	Posted - 2007.10.09 18:57:00 - [65] Originally by: DeTox MinRohim ... will be hard... Is that a promise darling? My views do not represent those of my corp or alliance. (Joined UKC 19/09/06)
Blue Flash	Posted - 2007.10.09 20:27:00 - [66] "Pets" turned down an offer to be a pet?!? Troll's head esplodes Logical thinking, meet CAOD. CAOD, logical thinking. Hmm, I don't think they like each other...
MarKand M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.09 20:47:00 - [67] Originally by: Jungle KungFu Originally by: MarKand Originally by: Jungle KungFu Velios track record Bitter rant Ohh, you must be one of those that got left behind. In the cold space all alone, thank God somebody pitty you and made you a wealthy char so you can buy other chars to play with. Besides that, get back to Jungle KungFu, have a banana, or better have two. Becouse all this bitternes isnt good for you, but I bet some bananas will make you smile again. /M Watching your utter failure has put a on my face that no amount of bananas ever could. Besides you could call it a "bitter rant" but you cant deny any of it. Just take it like a man, when the going gets tough you guys look for the quickest way out, lot's of people play that way apparently bob just didn't want anymore of them. I would never deny or admitt anything, that is beyond me, as this is in this case. But I do not make ****ty posts with a alt. And what BoB wants or not wants is not my desk either. And i do take it like a man, you are also a Minmatar, so why act like a girl. We fought our foes so hard, they had nothing but love when we folded. They even helped M.Pire pilots, who had given it all for the defence. That is called respect, I am very sorry to inform you, that it cant be bought throu a character transfer, or even a corp/alliance ticker. It has to be earnt. I may be sitting in empire, defetead, and with the short straw. And it was a epic fall, or a fail if You wish. I hope You will grow some courage and spirit to experince that one day. Then the word EPIC will unfold for you, and You wont be needing to hide behind a alt to make your voice heard. Now, be gone troll, go and be bitter in a onother tread. Obviusly, you have nothing to do with us as a corp, or alliance. If you do , post with your main, and speak up. Maybe it will ease the burden you have. /M
KracKaTinny Minmatar STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.09 20:58:00 - [68] WTF detox? i dont beleive this...i get smashed one time on teamspeak..and granted it was after my best mates' bucks night...and omg im so never goin to live that down. mele..u ever open that recording your in trouble buddy. as for the alco thing...im australian...ask anyone else from this country...drinking is a national pasttime / hobby / undeclared officlal sport
Krazy Bitsch	Posted - 2007.10.09 21:08:00 - [69] Originally by: Splagada Originally by: Ivor Gunn Originally by: Splagada they were assaulted by a group of 19ish alliance, were resisting fine but finally surrendered to Razor, MM and pets Better. not really mate. we're far from pets there, they're friends, my buds aint my pets nor puppetmasters. f.r.i.e.n.d.s. tough concept i dunno, for the last few months, hydra has been referred to on these forums as nothing more than Pure and MM pets...its not like Hydra nows how to pvp without holding other alliances' hands.
Jungle KungFu Minmatar Dickens-Cider	Posted - 2007.10.09 21:29:00 - [70] Originally by: MarKand Originally by: Jungle KungFu Originally by: MarKand Originally by: Jungle KungFu Velios track record Bitter rant Ohh, you must be one of those that got left behind. In the cold space all alone, thank God somebody pitty you and made you a wealthy char so you can buy other chars to play with. Besides that, get back to Jungle KungFu, have a banana, or better have two. Becouse all this bitternes isnt good for you, but I bet some bananas will make you smile again. /M Watching your utter failure has put a on my face that no amount of bananas ever could. Besides you could call it a "bitter rant" but you cant deny any of it. Just take it like a man, when the going gets tough you guys look for the quickest way out, lot's of people play that way apparently bob just didn't want anymore of them. allusion of competence /M You pos spammed from behind MC's skirt to claim your space up north and when the going got tough (one weekend of serious fighting) you bailed so fast you left your allies head spinning. How many station had you lost when you called it quits, 1 none? The truth is that you folded like a deck of cards your towers didn't even have time to come out of reinforce before you unfolded the white flag and raised he up the mast. Bob treated you like a carebear corp because that's exactly what you are a carebear corp that can only ride some one else's coat tails into 0.0. What was bob supposed to see in you? And am glad you have a pretty good idea who I am, you might be right it might be me and if hiding behind an alt is all you can throw at me meh I can live with that. Alt or no alt what am saying is true all one has to do is search there forums.
Orator Demosthenes Amarr On The Crown	Posted - 2007.10.09 21:33:00 - [71] ^^ Pretty much summed it up. Maybe if you failed less, people would like you more.
jAk3Z M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.09 21:48:00 - [72] Originally by: Jungle KungFu Velios track record ... Thanks to this record, long live to M.Corp.
DeTox MinRohim Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.09 22:06:00 - [73] Originally by: KracKaTinny WTF detox? i dont beleive this...i get smashed one time on teamspeak..and granted it was after my best mates' bucks night...and omg im so never goin to live that down. mele..u ever open that recording your in trouble buddy. as for the alco thing...im australian...ask anyone else from this country...drinking is a national pasttime / hobby / undeclared officlal sport I am so going to harass Mele for that recording... Jungle Fever ------ This sig space is Read-only ! omgalink - Online Skillsheet
MarKand M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.09 22:29:00 - [74] Originally by: Jungle KungFu Originally by: MarKand Originally by: Jungle KungFu Originally by: MarKand Originally by: Jungle KungFu . ........and if hiding behind an alt is all you can throw at me meh I can live with that. Alt or no alt what am saying is true all one has to do is search there forums. It wasnt my attention to throw anything on you, it was more the very thing, a alt. I you had choosen to speak up with your main, we would actually be able to debate the truth or not the truth in your words. But the very fact that You decide to not reveal your self, is telling me that you are not comfortable with showing your self. Fault number one is mine, I should never have picked up your flame bait, but sometimes, as in this case. I just got a bit frustrated and tired of all <unt5 and coad wannabe a ingame pilot. To finally answer your statement of search the forums, all I can say is.. If I would search these forums, I would discover that SirMolle is a Goon, RzR are RA pets, TRI are blue to -Y-. And fianlly , [5] with shinra and M are speaking of peace with RA, regarding Detorid. You can read coad-forums as the devil reads the bible. Most of all to really prove your point, if you read the forums really close, you will notice that there is no eve, only lag and soreloosers and whiners. Fly safe , and I really hope You will find what ever it is You are looking for in eve. /M
Jungle KungFu Minmatar Dickens-Cider	Posted - 2007.10.10 00:18:00 - [75] I'll leave it alone because a little birdie told me that you and friends might be coming over to my side
Zuberi Minmatar M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.10 00:28:00 - [76] Markand is my new prophet, just making too much sense. As far as the trollage, I like when people reduce a mutli-stage conflict into just the final weekend and call it a summary. Why stop there, just think of how bad it would look if you reduced the entire war down to the post surrender evac, then we would really look bad ;)
w0rmy M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.10 01:59:00 - [77] Originally by: Jungle KungFu And am glad you have a pretty good idea who I am, you might be right it might be me and if hiding behind an alt is all you can throw at me meh I can live with that. Alt or no alt what am saying is true all one has to do is search there forums. Actually, what you say is not true. People in the north will tell you that, unfortunately, as your only northern experience during the last 5 months was what you read on the forums, it is easy to see how your views of reality have become so ******ly twisted. Your facts lack one thing.... Fact. Main or no main what am saying is true all one has to do is close the forums once in a while and step in game. Originally by:** CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness. Originally by: Dianabolic I was never sworn to secrecy, w0rmy, sorry to dissappoint you.
Manus Ater M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.10 02:37:00 - [78] Originally by: Zuberi Markand is my new prophet, just making too much sense. As far as the trollage, I like when people reduce a mutli-stage conflict into just the final weekend and call it a summary. Why stop there, just think of how bad it would look if you reduced the entire war down to the post surrender evac, then we would really look bad ;) Amen. Multi-stage barely describes what happened in the north. To the troll: Just ask the MM/MH/whoever-it-was cap fleet that was attacking us every single night (props to that btw, don't know how you guys stayed sane ... if you have). This was not a one hour war. It wasn't a one day war. It wasn't a one week war. Hell, it wasn't even focusing on one system. How about a dozen systems, two of them being "key" systems (of a sort). This was a very long war that had to have even been difficult for our enemies to pull off in the manner that they did. We were vastly outnumbered and we held our ground for a loooong time. However, the numbers proved to be too much and we were given no other viable option but to pull out while we still had something left to take with us. Fighting RZR & MM has been the most fun I've had since I started playing. These are some of the most honorable pilots I've fought against as well. To the (pod bound) future of those that are red to me! raises glass Originally by: Plague Rexus next time i will just pay to stare at a blank piece of paper, occasionally getting frustrated, screwing up the paper and getting a new sheet.
Jungle KungFu Minmatar Dickens-Cider	Posted - 2007.10.10 03:29:00 - [79] yawn...
Josta Webisna Gallente M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.10 06:56:00 - [80] Salute to MM and RZR for all the good fights and bringing it.....lotsa fun up north and smack free local, you cant ask for more.
Skraeling Shortbus Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.10 07:09:00 - [81] We get beaten with sticks and nipple clamps are used if we smack in local :(
Velios M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.10 08:53:00 - [82] The REAL Velios Track Record ò Successfully held an active, progressive corp together for 4.5 years to date. ò Spent over 7 months cutting it's teeth in the original CA, M.Corp did not "Bail" from CA as was stated by the alt, it was CA that collapsed from the top downwards after the then leaderships ego's of that alliance collided. ò Joined the FIVE and were immediately asked to open a front in Cache, which M.Corp did with great success. We effectively kicked RA out of their last station system and held them out for over 6 weeks. Until they regrouped and came back in full force, by this time the rest of the FIVE had become bored with the conflict and had moved up North, leaving M.Corp and a handful of other dedicated people in the alliance to battle RA / RAT alone. ò Battled residents of Tenerifis for space and won, then formed Lotka Volterra with Shinra and UKC. M.Corp as part of Lotka Volterra held Tenerifis, Omist & Detorid for OVER A YEAR, achieving many of the original goals set out during the formation of the alliance. LV was eventually toppled from it's position by an invading Goon/RA force - a revenge attack by RA really for the damage that we had done to them in the past, through sheer weight of numbers they succeeded and hats off to them really. ò Formed MPIRE as a vehicle to work with other corporations to achieve common goals. We worked with MC despite what various alts have said to capture Branch in the North. Once in BKG we held it firm for over 6 months. It took a coalition of 19 various alliances spearheaded by RZR / MM & to a lesser extent TRI to oust us from our fortress. Respect to them for having the determination to do it, it was a well executed and devastating plan by them. So, there's the actual version of events, and we wouldn't change a thing to be honest :) M.Corp Capital Blueprint Facility
Lem2J Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.10 09:31:00 - [83] Originally by: Velios The REAL Velios Track Record ò Successfully held an active, progressive corp together for 4.5 years to date. ò Spent over 7 months cutting it's teeth in the original CA, M.Corp did not "Bail" from CA as was stated by the alt, it was CA that collapsed from the top downwards after the then leaderships ego's of that alliance collided. ò Joined the FIVE and were immediately asked to open a front in Cache, which M.Corp did with great success. We effectively kicked RA out of their last station system and held them out for over 6 weeks. Until they regrouped and came back in full force, by this time the rest of the FIVE had become bored with the conflict and had moved up North, leaving M.Corp and a handful of other dedicated people in the alliance to battle RA / RAT alone. ò Battled residents of Tenerifis for space and won, then formed Lotka Volterra with Shinra and UKC. M.Corp as part of Lotka Volterra held Tenerifis, Omist & Detorid for OVER A YEAR, achieving many of the original goals set out during the formation of the alliance. LV was eventually toppled from it's position by an invading Goon/RA force - a revenge attack by RA really for the damage that we had done to them in the past, through sheer weight of numbers they succeeded and hats off to them really. ò Formed MPIRE as a vehicle to work with other corporations to achieve common goals. We worked with MC despite what various alts have said to capture Branch in the North. Once in BKG we held it firm for over 6 months. It took a coalition of 19 various alliances spearheaded by RZR / MM & to a lesser extent TRI to oust us from our fortress. Respect to them for having the determination to do it, it was a well executed and devastating plan by them. So, there's the actual version of events, and we wouldn't change a thing to be honest :) CoW were one of the allies that was left when MPire surrendered... Yes we were very annoyed with the snap decision and no notice, but we understand why it was done. We still consider mpire a friend, we went through a fair amount together as allies. Look at how many alliances it took to make them fall... i think it was 17 different entities...
Stamm Amarr RHC RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.10 10:15:00 - [84] I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the 17 alliances thing. The reason M Pire fell is not because we massed a killer blob of people. M Pire, and Razor were at unsustainable war since M Pire moved in. There were people from 17 alliances there, but it's probably fair to say that there were not 17 alliances there. I hope the distinction is clear. The tactical shift which proved to be victorious was a decision made by our coalition to constantly be on the attack. Rather than high powered assaults on prime systems we opted to attack every asset not in a station system. These tactics were greatly successful. We deprived M Pire of any sort of victory, and regularly caught capitals etc where they shouldn't have been. Finally when we believed that M Pire were hurting, and questions would be asked internally in the New North Alliances Smashkill came up for an assault on BKG. Within 12 hours of the assault it was pretty clear what was going to happen. We had achieved all of our key objectives - we were actually ahead of projections, which is rare. M Pire's considerable home territory advantage was the shredder POS containing the cyno jammer. With the cyno jammer repped we had to mass a fleet of at least 200 to attack it. If M Pire managed to get a fleet of 150, we would need 250-300 to consider it. They're great defensive tools. Our objective on the first night of the final BKG assault was to bring down the cyno jammer, bring in capital ships, and obtain system control. We managed that, in addition to putting (I can't remember the number) POSs into reinforced, and disabling guns. M Pire's surrender was a surprise, however it wasn't early, or a knee jerk reaction. The writing was on the wall that M Pire and allies were worn down, attrition was high, and the Old Norths resolve was set to see the siege through to it's conclusion. M Pire and CoW were dignified in defeat, although I think Pepperami put fish down the back of the radiators in V7-MID. And I do not believe they have any reason to go away with their tails between their legs. Fatal however were, as we knew, already under stress internally, and it seems their surrender was not accepted by some individuals/corporations, and as a result they reneged on the terms. They don't exist any more. Galaxian Recruitment Info
Velios M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.10 10:29:00 - [85] Fair comments Stamm, and indeed the tactic of taking out selected targets outside our protected systems was a brilliant one. It dismantled us piece by piece and softened us up for the decisive blow. The people that actually made the decision to surrender were the people that had suffered the MOST from that tactic, the POS team, who were emotionally and psychologically worn down by the demands put upon them. Those people paid the highest price in the battle, and are thankfully recuperating now that they are out of it. The rest of us though are sitting about wondering what to do next :) M.Corp Capital Blueprint Facility
Ignition SemperFi The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.10 11:17:00 - [86] You would think m.pire and cow and the pvp'rs from fatal would rejoin to form a strong PVP force, with alot less carebears. Good fights all around and i enjoyed the smack-free environments ARROW CAP SHIPS FOR SALE We Promise you wont be disappointed!
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2007.10.10 11:20:00 - [87] Originally by: Velios Once in BKG we held it firm for over 6 months. It took a coalition of 19 various alliances spearheaded by RZR / MM & to a lesser extent TRI to oust us from our fortress. Respect to them for having the determination to do it, it was a well executed and devastating plan by them. Claiming to have held firm in bkg and the area for 6 months is a bit of a exageration bud its not like you were under siege or even light attack for all the time you were there. The truth is that you were pretty much left alone as far as invasion was concerned for most of those 6 months and when the main attack did come you folded without even losing soverenty in a single system. If the rest of your claims are as misleading as this id say you should step down and let others lead, maybe you should go into recruitment you seem to have a flare for putting spin on things. The opinions that i give are the opinions of my corp although my alts opinions may differ as this is my forum smack alt.
Velios M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.10 11:24:00 - [88] oh god, the sour nob cheese has returned. M.Corp Capital Blueprint Facility
w0rmy M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.10 11:36:00 - [89] Edited by: w0rmy on 10/10/2007 11:44:24 Edited by: velios on 10/10/2007 11:42:58 Originally by: marakor Claiming to have held firm in bkg and the area for 6 months is a bit of a exageration bud its not like you were under siege or even light attack for all the time you were there. The truth is that you were pretty much left alone as far as invasion was concerned for most of those 6 months and when the main attack did come you folded without even losing soverenty in a single system. You are correct, its probably closer to 5 months than 6. However, a quick look at our killboards show we spent most of that time on attack or being attacked. BKG was lost, regardless of what the sov was, you sour nob cheese Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness. Originally by: Dianabolic I was never sworn to secrecy, w0rmy, sorry to dissappoint you.
Velios M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.10 11:38:00 - [90] Wormy, you forgot to call him a sour nob cheese at the end. Please amend!

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