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Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.10.11 14:28:00 - [31] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 11/10/2007 14:29:49 Please Garreck, as you see fit to use my name in 100% f your posts let me indulge you with a reply at least. My beloved Jade and allied forces are doing a campaign in Providence. Myself and allied forces are doing a campaign in providence. Star Fraction and Sani Sabik have years of positive standings and mutual friendship. We are not the same campaign because we have different objectives and different investors. We will operate together if needed and aid each other's efforts. This is all there is at space. Sorry but your conspiracy theory goes down the hole right here. About the free Providence, that will come when all your lackeys are gone. One does not build a new house when there are still mud and bricks from the old one. One cleans the terrain and make a new foundation. So goes with war and stratetic planning. I know that you're a plain soldier, one that knows little more than enter a ship and press buttons to kill or die. Not undermining your efforts, there are people to fit all sort of roles in this universe. At any case, I'm sure my words will serve well to your questions. Alchemy for a New World Order .^.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 15:34:00 - [32] Garreck smiles I suppose subterfuge is indeed well beyond me.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.11 16:18:00 - [33] Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 11/10/2007 16:18:35 Originally by: Garreck Even if I'm wrong, it's useful to point out to the casual bystander that the CVA is not some monster who flexes its power to keep "pets" in line as we have recently been painted...rather, You're an apologist for an imperialistic slave economy of god-kneeling hypocrites Garreck, I mean seriously. Lets not carried away here - I've seen your internal discussions and high council debates. Perhaps I have access via our agents that you simply don't possess - but given the demands that CVA members place on their clients and "pets" I think you can hardly describe them as anything other than underlings and slave-caste dogsbodies to the greater glory of Amarrian nationalist reclaimers. Sometimes I think you get drunk on your own propaganda. Your aren't the "good guys" here Garreck. You personally are a disgrace to the political freedoms that spawned you and you've found a niche suppressing the freedoms of others. End of the day lets remember exactly what you represent. Star Fraction is recruiting
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 16:41:00 - [34] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine but given the demands that CVA members place on their clients and "pets" Name three. Bonus points if you don't have to include our "not red, don't shoot" policy enforcement...which has served to encourage neutral presence in our space rather than act as some sort of unreasonable demand. This is not a theological discussion. Our allies know what we represent. They also know that any and all to this point who represent the opposite have proven a greater threat to their self-determination and ambitions. Better the slaver who works with you for prosperity than the terrorist/anarchist who shoots you without question, I suppose.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.11 17:32:00 - [35] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Jasmine Constantine but given the demands that CVA members place on their clients and "pets" Name three. Bonus points if you don't have to include our "not red, don't shoot" policy enforcement...which has served to encourage neutral presence in our space rather than act as some sort of unreasonable demand. One - thou shalt yield the belt if CVA officer comes in to hunt. Two - thou shalt live in the ghettos chosen by CVA central command. Three - though shalt erect cyno-jammers and jump bridges to the great glory of amarrian providence. Four - though shalt turn a blind eye to the slave economy and reclaiming agenda of regressive imperialist fanatics. No real point going on. You'll claim this doesn't happen. I'll claim it does. You'll demand "evidence" - I provide it. You'll claim its our agents spreading dissent - Rodj will doubless come out from below his stone to troll some more. Point being you are a servant in an empire of liars Garreck. Whatever your personal qualities might be your choice taints you below the level of independent mind. At this stage you'll do and say anything to justify being the creature of a decadent and corrupt regime because its really all you have. Quote: This is not a theological discussion. Our allies know what we represent. They also know that any and all to this point who represent the opposite have proven a greater threat to their self-determination and ambitions. Better the slaver who works with you for prosperity than the terrorist/anarchist who shoots you without question, I suppose. Yes we're aware of your "better to live on your knees" ideology Garreck. In the Star Fraction we think otherwise. Better to die on one's feet than know eternity crawling at the foot of a fat slaver. Ultimately thats the difference between you and I. I have the courage to strive against evil knowing my life to be worth no more than my pride and honour. You on the other hand ... well, your words speak accurately of your lack of self esteem and shame. Star Fraction is recruiting
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 17:47:00 - [36] Edited by: Garreck on 11/10/2007 17:47:41 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine You'll claim this doesn't happen. I'll claim it does. That much seems certain. I would point out that a quick look at a few map resources give lie to the "ghettos" assesment: several of the most profitable systems in Providence are not even under CVA sovereignty. The rest? As you say, I will say it doesn't happen, you have claimed it does. Our allies know that the favorite tactic of a CVA hostile is to attack CVA allies instead...so I'll leave to the public to decide if your claims are true and determine for themselves if our allies would remain loyal knowing that the only benefit of getting "pushed around" by us is to get shot at by the likes of you.
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 18:27:00 - [37] Shall we examine these claims then? Claim 1 False. No such policy exists. Claim 2 False. Some of the richest territory in the region is being developed outside the CVA. Claim 3 False. Those controlling space in Providence might decide to put certain structures up. It hardly takes a tactical genius to figure out why, it makes THEM more secure. Claim 4 Propaganda Now I am certain you can retort with some fluffy bit of rhetorical nonsense, or perhaps you can manufacture a spy or pay someone off to say otherwise. That does not change reality. Your claims are without substantial merit. Yelling 'yes they are! Yes they are!' loudly a thousand times does not validate your claims. Nor does filling comms with verbose nonsensical proclamations. Of course, given past experiences with your lot I fully expect you to try. Residents of the region can decide for themselves.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.11 18:51:00 - [38] Originally by: Pezzle Shall we examine these claims then? I thought we'd already agreed there was no real purpose for you to come here and lie about these things? Star Fraction is recruiting
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 19:06:00 - [39] There are no agreements between us beyond one. Shooting.
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.11 20:00:00 - [40] Originally by: Pezzle Yelling 'yes they are! Yes they are!' loudly a thousand times does not validate your claims. The CVA of course, by yelling "No they aren't! No they aren't" repeatedly will most certainly validate their view of how the ants they walk over are treated in everyone's eyes... Myself, for all I care the ants can be stepped on all they like. They will learn the nature of their position eventually. However, if they want to shoot your enemies for you, then they have earned the lesson we are teaching them. Hope that clears things up. See you in space. Cheers, Ituralde _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 20:15:00 - [41] Originally by: Ituralde The CVA of course, by yelling "No they aren't! No they aren't" repeatedly will most certainly validate their view of how the ants they walk over are treated in everyone's eyes... Quite the contrary. For one of the claims, (something about ghettos?) as I pointed out, evidence to the contrary is openly available to the public. Lie number one wide out in the open...without having to raise my voice in the slightest.
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.11 20:37:00 - [42] Play with semantics all you like, Garreck. They live where you tell them they can live, and they operate and conduct business by your rules. Hardly what I would call a free life, even if 'Ghetto' isn't the proper term for it. Frankly, the fact that anyone would not only want to make their permanent home in providence, but make their home in providence by another's rules is completely beyond me. Though I am sure you are pleased, your pet dogs have performed as directed, barking and biting for you. Excuse us while we shoot them. Cheers, Ituralde _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.11 20:43:00 - [43] Edited by: Garreck on 11/10/2007 20:47:36 Originally by: Ituralde Play with semantics all you like, Garreck. I'm a plain soldier, Ituralde. I know little more than enter a ship and press buttons to kill or die. Wordplay is beyond me. Originally by: Ituralde Frankly, the fact that anyone would...make their home in providence by another's rules is completely beyond me. I don't suppose you have so much as considered the possibility that you're wrong on this account? Particularly because it does seem mindbogglingly incomprehensible...
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.10.12 00:40:00 - [44] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine One - thou shalt yield the belt if CVA officer comes in to hunt. Two - thou shalt live in the ghettos chosen by CVA central command. Three - though shalt erect cyno-jammers and jump bridges to the great glory of amarrian providence. Four - though shalt turn a blind eye to the slave economy and reclaiming agenda of regressive imperialist fanatics. Argue about numbers one through three all you want. Nobody denies number four, and that's all we need to know to pick targets... -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today!
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.12 01:36:00 - [45] Originally by: Garreck I don't suppose you have so much as considered the possibility that you're wrong on this account? Particularly because it does seem mindbogglingly incomprehensible... What did I just say about wordplay? Perhaps I should explain myself and what I mean by 'Incomprehensible'. I mean that it's beyond stupid to not only set up permanent shop in a region with very little in terms of natural resources, but to also do it by anyone else's rules. What is incomprehensible is why anyone would be stupid enough to do it. I guess one thing that never fails to surprise is the unmitigated stupidity humanity repeatedly demonstrates it is capable of. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Keorythe Caldari Terra Rosa Militia Sev3rance	Posted - 2007.10.14 05:02:00 - [46] Edited by: Keorythe on 14/10/2007 05:03:09 One - thou shalt yield the belt if CVA officer comes in to hunt. We have to yield the belt to a CVA officer? I didn't get that memo, sorry. Bad Keo! Been breaking the rulez! /slaps own wrist Two - thou shalt live in the ghettos chosen by CVA central command. Ghettos? Can you explain what makes them ghettos? Last I check some of the best ratting were in those areas. The Veld Chip bar has been having some pretty ghetto-tastic parties so I guess that would count for you. Three - though shalt erect cyno-jammers and jump bridges to the great glory of amarrian providence. Sorry but thats for everyone's own benefit. CVA doesn't benefit much from these in territory they no longer own. Four - though shalt turn a blind eye to the slave economy and reclaiming agenda of regressive imperialist fanatics.Turn a blind eye? Lady, we're Caldari. If we thought slavery was profitable we'd be giving the Amarrian a run for their money. The slaves eat too much, aren't efficient, nor are easy to maintain/supply. We prefer low wage gallente indentured servants. I know I know, I shouldn't feed the SF/SS trolls.
Black Necris Minmatar Black Watch Legionnaires	Posted - 2007.10.14 07:57:00 - [47] Edited by: Black Necris on 14/10/2007 07:58:19 read below :p "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."
Black Necris Minmatar Black Watch Legionnaires	Posted - 2007.10.14 07:58:00 - [48] Give em hell brothers!!

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