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Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:04:00 -
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Carbears are (like it or not) a part of EVE. Are they represented in the CSM?
If so...who is it?
If not, should it?
discuss G’ąG’ąG’ąCargo Pilots Unite!!!G’ąG’ąG’ą https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132 |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:05:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=268 http://i.imgur.com/cOmMP.gif |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:07:00 -
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You should go ask them in their forum area here.
/Posting in another Atticus Finch random thoughts thread.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:09:00 -
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Until people stop referring to them as Carebears, you're not going to get one. Too much of a stigma comes with the word 'carebearing'. . |

Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:10:00 -
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@Doc and KrakizBad. This is not a question for CSM, but the EVE population in general.
Knowledge of the answer is something else Im looking for, which you two obviously dont have. G’ąG’ąG’ąCargo Pilots Unite!!!G’ąG’ąG’ą https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132 |

Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:11:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Until people stop referring to them as Carebears, you're not going to get one. Too much of a stigma comes with the word 'carebearing'.
Well, My Little Ponies just doesn't roll off the tongue.
@Atticus, read the minutes. That should give you a good idea of who the CSM represents. |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
284
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:13:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:@Doc and KrakizBad. This is not a question for CSM, but the EVE population in general.
Knowledge of the answer is something else Im looking for, which you two obviously dont have.
Why not go look it up yourself instead of trying to spam-up EVE GD with your random thought threads?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
528
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:13:00 -
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Considering carebears don't band together and vote for one candidate... no.
You had a few non null ones... but they aren't around anymore.
And then there was Ank... :shudder: |

Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:14:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Until people stop referring to them as Carebears, you're not going to get one. Too much of a stigma comes with the word 'carebearing'.
Funny, but I never saw anything wrong with the word. Better a carebear than a douchbag. (That's the flip side carebears right?)
G’ąG’ąG’ąCargo Pilots Unite!!!G’ąG’ąG’ą https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132 |

Atticus Fynch
388
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:15:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:@Doc and KrakizBad. This is not a question for CSM, but the EVE population in general.
Knowledge of the answer is something else Im looking for, which you two obviously dont have. Why not go look it up yourself instead of trying to spam-up EVE GD with your random thought threads?
Oh-oh...lookes like I gave doc another erection. Must be my avatar.  G’ąG’ąG’ąCargo Pilots Unite!!!G’ąG’ąG’ą https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132 |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
528
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:15:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Until people stop referring to them as Carebears, you're not going to get one. Too much of a stigma comes with the word 'carebearing'. Funny, but I never saw anything wrong with the word. Better a carebear than a douchbag. (That's the flip side carebears right?) A carebear is a risk averse person who wants the game changed to support their solo (sometimes multi) play style and forcing everyone else to play like them.
IE... they are douchbags. |

Atticus Fynch
388
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:17:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Until people stop referring to them as Carebears, you're not going to get one. Too much of a stigma comes with the word 'carebearing'. Funny, but I never saw anything wrong with the word. Better a carebear than a douchbag. (That's the flip side carebears right?) A carebear is a risk averse person who wants the game changed to support their solo (sometimes multi) play style and forcing everyone else to play like them. IE... they are douchbags.
Cant you say the same about the pew-pewers in EVE. I read a thread on how someone wants to counter cloaks with a cloak killer. Cloaks are one of the carebear's counter-measures. G’ąG’ąG’ąCargo Pilots Unite!!!G’ąG’ąG’ą https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132 |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
284
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:19:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:@Doc and KrakizBad. This is not a question for CSM, but the EVE population in general.
Knowledge of the answer is something else Im looking for, which you two obviously dont have. Why not go look it up yourself instead of trying to spam-up EVE GD with your random thought threads? Oh-oh...lookes like I gave doc another erection. Must be my avatar. 
You seem to be fascinated with "erections", whether or not I have one, and shatting-up EVE GD with whatever crosses your mind.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
528
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:20:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Until people stop referring to them as Carebears, you're not going to get one. Too much of a stigma comes with the word 'carebearing'. Funny, but I never saw anything wrong with the word. Better a carebear than a douchbag. (That's the flip side carebears right?) A carebear is a risk averse person who wants the game changed to support their solo (sometimes multi) play style and forcing everyone else to play like them. IE... they are douchbags. Cant you say the same about the pew-pewers in EVE. I read a thread on how someone wants to counter cloaks with a cloak killer. You could. There are a lot of pewers that are carebears.
At times I am a carebear... I just try to avoid it. |

Atticus Fynch
388
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:21:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:@Doc and KrakizBad. This is not a question for CSM, but the EVE population in general.
Knowledge of the answer is something else Im looking for, which you two obviously dont have. Why not go look it up yourself instead of trying to spam-up EVE GD with your random thought threads? Oh-oh...lookes like I gave doc another erection. Must be my avatar.  You seem to be fascinated with "erections", whether or not I have one, and shatting-up EVE GD with whatever crosses your mind.
You keep coming back for more so Im convinced you are in love with me. Admit it..YOU LOVE ME!!!!! You want to have my babies.  G’ąG’ąG’ąCargo Pilots Unite!!!G’ąG’ąG’ą https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132 |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
284
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:24:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:@Doc and KrakizBad. This is not a question for CSM, but the EVE population in general.
Knowledge of the answer is something else Im looking for, which you two obviously dont have. Why not go look it up yourself instead of trying to spam-up EVE GD with your random thought threads? Oh-oh...lookes like I gave doc another erection. Must be my avatar.  You seem to be fascinated with "erections", whether or not I have one, and shatting-up EVE GD with whatever crosses your mind. You keep coming back for more so Im convinced you are in love with me. Admit it..YOU LOVE ME!!!!! You want to have my babies. 
Sorry pal, you should seek professional help for your delusions, and maybe get a pet or a friend who will provide you with the attention you are so obviously starving for.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
286
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:25:00 -
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It does, but I don't remember who, and I do not know where the member list is... does anyone?
I usually say PvE'er or PvP'er.
The worst Ive heard is that because PvP'ers like Pvp is because they like adrenaline, they should be called adrenaline junkies, or just junkies.
So we got junkies and carebears. CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should. Subscribers can never answer a question posed to CCP. Only CCP can. |

Atticus Fynch
388
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:27:00 -
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I'm sorry Doc, but I've blocked your posts. I can no longer hear you.
Try to get over your crush OK pal. You'll find someone or something...someday.
xoxoxox
PS. I welcome your bumps...more please. G’ąG’ąG’ąCargo Pilots Unite!!!G’ąG’ąG’ą https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132 |

Cass Lie
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:30:00 -
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No carebear (in a sense of no pew pew pvp) representatives, sorry. They are however guys somewhat advocating "the side" of high sec - Trebor for example. He is currently a member of DNS., but they are not your typical null alliance and Trebor has a history of being a long time high sec dweller I believe. Also Meissa, though living in low sec/whs, is sometimes advocating things on behalf of high sec. But both of them see the broader picture of Eve and are not lobbying for one particular group.
The last true carebear representative was Ankh in CSM5 and she was a complete and utter disaster. |

Atticus Fynch
388
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:34:00 -
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Cass Lie wrote:No carebear (in a sense of no pew pew pvp) representatives, sorry. They are however guys somewhat advocating "the side" of high sec - Trebor for example. He is currently a member of DNS., but they are not your typical null alliance and Trebor has a history of being a long time high sec dweller I believe. Also Meissa, though living in low sec/whs, is sometimes advocating things on behalf of high sec. But both of them see the broader picture of Eve and are not lobbying for one particular group.
The last true carebear representative was Ankh in CSM5 and she was a complete and utter disaster.
So carebears are a silent minority in CSM affairs. Interesting.
As for Ankh..never heard of this person but it looks like it was bad based on just two replies here. G’ąG’ąG’ąCargo Pilots Unite!!!G’ąG’ąG’ą https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132 |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
253
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:38:00 -
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Yeah, carebears have a poor history in the CSM. ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Sara XIII
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:42:00 -
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Well, I don't know about "all" carebears. But I do represent all non-asian Caldari, the entirety of Minmatar, and all the Amarr that have a resemblence to 1-Up Mushroom.
I can be reached via EVE-mail or personally in the Haatomo solar system most EVEnings (EST).
Did you have a question? |

Roscada
We love Egg
17
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:44:00 -
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Back in the everquest days, we called the carebears "blues." Name had some stigma too, but not quite as bad. |

Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
87
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:46:00 -
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Cass Lie wrote:No carebear (in a sense of no pew pew pvp) representatives, sorry. They are however guys somewhat advocating "the side" of high sec - Trebor for example. He is currently a member of DNS., but they are not your typical null alliance and Trebor has a history of being a long time high sec dweller I believe. Also Meissa, though living in low sec/whs, is sometimes advocating things on behalf of high sec. But both of them see the broader picture of Eve and are not lobbying for one particular group.
The last true carebear representative was Ankh in CSM5 and she was a complete and utter disaster.
Why was Ankh a disaster? I wasn't playing Eve for that long to know.
If you're looking for a CSM representative to be exclusively hisec, then you're not going to find him....or at least one who will get the popular votes.
Better to rally around a few CSMs who have a vested interest in hisec and understands that a viable hisec life is part of a healthy ecosystem that is New Eden.
inb4 this becomes a threadnaught!
. |

Atticus Lowa
Lowa Corp Industries and Security
7
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:46:00 -
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CSM doesn't need a carebear rep they need a balanced mix of reps from ALL sides of the game.
not just so-called Alliance sheep puppets, i mean we have people suggesting that a portion of ship insurance should go to the ganker... seems a bit extreme...
BUT high-sec should reward less for its security, not much that can be done for null seeing its nearly player-driven.
can't say much for incursions seeing im not in a postion for doing them, yet anyways...
maybe faction warfare in low-sec pays particularly well?
look the bulk of my knowledge is in WH stuff, mining and mission running, so i dunno.
But most of all, i think that the PVP system we have makes the game unique, your NEVER safe, even in high-sec. carebears seek to destroy this, the exact opposite want everyone else to die, the CSM seems dominated by the latter...
anyways, like in RL you need to vote for people who represent your poltics or your going to be in hell, so yes, maybe we get more balanced moderates? |

Atticus Fynch
388
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:49:00 -
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Atticus Lowa wrote:CSM doesn't need a carebear rep they need a balanced mix of reps from ALL sides of the game.
My thought exactly. Perhaps instead of having general reps, it should be broken down to reps of different game aspects.
G’ąG’ąG’ąCargo Pilots Unite!!!G’ąG’ąG’ą https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132 |

Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
87
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:49:00 -
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The funny thing is that most of the population is in hisec and not nullsec. With proper grassroots campaigning, outreach, and organization, hisec could rig the CSM voting system in their favor . |

Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:49:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Yeah, carebears have a poor history in the CSM.
They do.
If you think only null/low CSMs are the power hungry ones.. the past has proven completely otherwise. Being biased to assume only 0.4> aligned CSMs have hidden agendas stemmed from greed.
Shouldn't matter where the player who goes up for CSM is rooted in. Sure.. they'll have a better understanding and experince of that area if it suits your personal preference.
What should be focused on first, imo.. is a CSM first, understands the core of this game.. and then desires to simply make it a better game. Not better for you, him, her, them, I.. just a flat out better game while keeping the core of what is EVE, intact. Got to understand everything is connected.. null to high and everything that happens inbetween.. and don't create a disconnect between any of it. |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
1003
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:51:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Carbears are (like it or not) a part of EVE.
Carbears in my eve? - why - I never...
Anyway - I think Darius III is currently dealing with matters concerning carebears...
morons- sting like a butterfly and-įpost like a bee. |

Atticus Fynch
388
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:54:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:The funny thing is that most of the population is in hisec and not nullsec. With proper grassroots campaigning, outreach, and organization, hisec could rig the CSM voting system in their favor
Interesting point and it may show that hi-sec dwellers are not "aggressive" players in or out of game, resulting in poor political representation. You have to fight to be heard. G’ąG’ąG’ąCargo Pilots Unite!!!G’ąG’ąG’ą https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132 |
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