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Tareen Kashaar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.13 05:55:00 - [1] I've just had a look at that shiny new news item with the before and after pics of the geddon. I know it's a work in progress, but I still wanted to give my feedback on it. For one thing, the windows are way too big, making the ship look less like a battleship sized vessel, and more like a cruiser... This would be my most important point of criticism. Also look at the placement of the windows on the main body of the ship, behind the turret hardpoints on the sides - the old model has it's windows stretched out along a straight line, and none on the slanted bulk of that part, making it look more solid and properly "armored". The placement of windows on that part of the model in the new version makes it look more fragile and vulnerable. Same thing on the aft section. The color scheme is different than what we're used to, but I like it a lot, actually. All in all, I'd suggest not to go with these big swatches of windows, and integrating the old approach instead, while making sure that a proper sense of scale is maintained. Thank you for your attention. --- WTS: Forum Signatures, price negotiable. Evemail me!
Calimor Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 06:15:00 - [2] Seconding everything he said.
James Duar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 06:16:00 - [3] I'd like to echo the complaint about windows with respects to pretty much every dreadnaught design in the game. It would be a lot nicer if they didn't have thousands of windows all over their hulls when they're supposed to predominantly be armor-tanking (Phoenix, Nagalfar should but on the Moros it just looks absurd).
ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP	Posted - 2007.10.13 06:56:00 - [4] I dont like the extra lights, here is a crappy photoshop of how i think it should look Linkage A bigger eve Annndd..Player Factions
Icome4u Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.10.13 07:16:00 - [5] CCP designers have no ***** taste i swear LOL! THey come up with the dumbest idea's. I'm honestly starting to think they hire dumbasses or kids to make this game. ______ Originally by:** Vyger If I lose connection while walking around a station will my avatar run off in a random direction and go hide in a corner?
Nicholas Barker MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.10.13 07:44:00 - [6] i think those lights are just bad textures tbh. ---
Ricky1989 Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 10:12:00 - [7] Hello! It says work in progress FFS ---- "I Can Make A Mess Like Nobody's Business"
Chi Quan Perkone	Posted - 2007.10.13 10:22:00 - [8] maybe put the windows at the armor plate joints (who said these were windows anyway)? -- Tempus fugit -- quote spiralJunkie: it doesn't matter how you pronounce it, it still shoots you in the face
Helison Gallente Times of Ancar Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.13 11:13:00 - [9] I¦m quite sure, that it¦s already much too late (CCP wants to deliver within 45 days), but I also think that the windows are too big (I even think, that the old design has a better style at all).
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.13 11:32:00 - [10] Originally by: Ricky1989 Hello! It says work in progress FFS hello .. we are in a forum section made to discuss WIP. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Sasori Sephiroth Grumpy Old Men	Posted - 2007.10.13 11:38:00 - [11] If I may, I have read the responses on this thread....and I feel somewhat the same. Why those huge windows? If you look at the original model, this small windows give you a sense of....hugeness?...no, that's not the word I was looking for but I think you get the picture. And those windows in the center, wouldn't they look a whole lot better if they where place like in the old model? - instead of centered, stretch Other then that...I think everything else look very nice :) ps: first post in this section of the forum :)
4rc4ng3L C R Y O	Posted - 2007.10.13 12:54:00 - [12] Originally by: Tareen Kashaar Edited by: Tareen Kashaar on 13/10/2007 06:08:37 I've just had a look at that shiny new news item with the before and after pics of the geddon. I know it's a work in progress, but I still wanted to give my feedback on it. For one thing, the windows are way too big, making the ship look less like a battleship sized vessel, and more like a cruiser... This would be my most important point of criticism. Also look at the placement of the windows on the main body of the ship, behind the turret hardpoints on the sides - the old model has it's windows stretched out along a straight line, and none on the slanted bulk of that part, making it look more solid and properly "armored". The placement of windows on that part of the model in the new version makes it look more fragile and vulnerable. Same thing on the aft section. The color scheme is different than what we're used to, but I like it a lot, actually. All in all, I'd suggest not to go with these big swatches of windows, and integrating the old approach instead, while making sure that a proper sense of scale is maintained. Thank you for your attention. Although its work in progress, i still agree with what he said ------------------------------*
Isyel Minmatar Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Icome4u CCP designers have no ******* taste i swear LOL! THey come up with the dumbest idea's. I'm honestly starting to think they hire dumbasses or kids to make this game. Oh the irony ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ZaKma Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:16:00 - [14] I actually am more sad that space will still have the same crappy look with the new engine. I mean, ignore the ship in the 2 pictures for a minute. Do you see any difference?
Valator Uel Caldari Pax Minor Asylum Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:16:00 - [15] Edited by: Valator Uel on 13/10/2007 14:16:31 Correct me if I'm wrong, but there seems to be 8 turret hardpoints on the new model. Could the geddon be getting an extra turret? -----------------------------------------------------
Tonto Auri	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:20:00 - [16] Can't see 8'th turret. 3x top-bottom and 4x at sides? Where's 8'th ? -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig>
Valator Uel Caldari Pax Minor Asylum Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:23:00 - [17] Edited by: Valator Uel on 13/10/2007 14:24:16 I see 3 on top and 5 on the sides, can't see what's on the bottom. edit: that is unless the geddon gets two top hardpoints used by a single gun. -----------------------------------------------------
Tonto Auri	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:03:00 - [18] Hm, I see now... You're right. /me out to find some geddons to take a closer look. -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig>
Tonto Auri	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:05:00 - [19] P.S. TBH, Bhaalgorn have 8 hards... -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig>
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 16:32:00 - [20] Originally by: Tareen Kashaar Edited by: Tareen Kashaar on 13/10/2007 06:08:37 I've just had a look at that shiny new news item with the before and after pics of the geddon. I know it's a work in progress, but I still wanted to give my feedback on it. For one thing, the windows are way too big, making the ship look less like a battleship sized vessel, and more like a cruiser... This would be my most important point of criticism. Also look at the placement of the windows on the main body of the ship, behind the turret hardpoints on the sides - the old model has it's windows stretched out along a straight line, and none on the slanted bulk of that part, making it look more solid and properly "armored". The placement of windows on that part of the model in the new version makes it look more fragile and vulnerable. Same thing on the aft section. The color scheme is different than what we're used to, but I like it a lot, actually. All in all, I'd suggest not to go with these big swatches of windows, and integrating the old approach instead, while making sure that a proper sense of scale is maintained. Thank you for your attention. I agree with everything here. But want to add something. The new design, especially for say, the prophecy where the ship looks like a ship that is built in two stages, is really good, but you have to execute it well. For the Geddon it looks only half executed. Stage one is the ship itself, all the mechanics and moving parts and powerplants etc. And stage 2 is the plating where huge prefabricated golden plates are afixed to the ship. The ship ought to look like it was built in the same way a knight puts on his armor, so that the shining golden knights of righteousness can burn the heretics to the ground. With the prophecy it looks like this was gotten right. With the Geddon it looks half right. The two nose plates look good, and so does the cover for the turret mounts. But there are areas of the ship where it doesnt seem like this has happened. The simple changes that can be made to the Geddon are to remove lights from areas that ought to be armor, and to make the lights that do exist smaller. Otherwise, its great.
Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 17:01:00 - [21] The new geddon needs a more yellowish hue, that picture makes it look brown. Brown Amarr ships are just wrong.
Tareen Kashaar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.13 19:02:00 - [22] Originally by: ZaKma I actually am more sad that space will still have the same crappy look with the new engine. I mean, ignore the ship in the 2 pictures for a minute. Do you see any difference? It's a different point, but I agree completely. Space should be a lot prettier than it is in EVE currently. However, there was something about that announced in the latest press release: Quote: The 'EVE Online: Trinity' expansion includes: A new graphics engine: All spaceships, stargates and space stations in EVE Online have been remodeled; each object is comprised of several million polygons and multiple layers of high resolution textures Native Shader Model 3.0 engine Environmental effects, such as shadows and nebula-based lighting models, tie graphical assets into the different solar systems of EVE Online Ground-breaking visual fidelity, which blurs the lines between a game and a movie My emphasis. This makes me kind of hopeful. --- WTS: Forum Signatures, price negotiable. Evemail me!
Icome4u Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.10.13 19:13:00 - [23] Originally by: Isyel Originally by: Icome4u CCP designers have no ***** taste i swear LOL! THey come up with the dumbest idea's. I'm honestly starting to think they hire dumbasses or kids to make this game. Oh the irony Thanks for posting :) Don't bother doing it again :) ______ Originally by:** Vyger If I lose connection while walking around a station will my avatar run off in a random direction and go hide in a corner?
Tao Han Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2007.10.13 21:39:00 - [24] Originally by: Icome4u Originally by: Isyel Originally by: Icome4u CCP designers have no ******* taste i swear LOL! THey come up with the dumbest idea's. I'm honestly starting to think they hire dumbasses or kids to make this game. Oh the irony Thanks for posting :) Don't bother doing it again :) Same goes for you and your super-constructive whine post ------
IlluminatedOne Amarr Tycho Brahe Fan Club	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:24:00 - [25] Can't find an old/new 'geddon pics. Removed? Any1 has them? Repost them at eve-files.com please...
Tonto Auri	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:29:00 - [26] Originally by: IlluminatedOne Can't find an old/new 'geddon pics. Removed? Any1 has them? Repost them at eve-files.com please... Look carefully into first post. Originally by: Bein Glorious The new geddon needs a more yellowish hue, that picture makes it look brown. Brown Amarr ships are just wrong. If it's brown, it isn't an Amarr, it's Blood Raiders one. -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig>
Azrael Maxim Flexible Demeanour	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:33:00 - [27] Completely agree with the OP, although It's a work in progress I wonder if CCP will be able to fix this issue on time If they only would have been less secretive about it all we would have been able to give positive criticism a lot earlier
IlluminatedOne Amarr Tycho Brahe Fan Club	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:41:00 - [28] Originally by: Tonto Auri Look carefully into first post. Now you look carefully and return. Images are removed.
Tonto Auri	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:50:00 - [29] Hm... well.. before after -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig>
IlluminatedOne Amarr Tycho Brahe Fan Club	Posted - 2007.10.13 23:15:00 - [30] Originally by: Tonto Auri Hm... well.. Thanks a lot :)
Caiman Graystock The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.10.13 23:53:00 - [31] the finish is lovely, the model looks great. those windows are a joke, and Im sure by release they will be rectified. wip indeed. show us a raven next, please
Terail Zoqial	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:06:00 - [32] Yeah, those windows are huge, the original texture was far better and detailed imho. Don't like these shiney ships, they look like plastic toys. Hopefully they'll look far better in game
Trojanman190 Caldari Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:10:00 - [33] Edited by: Trojanman190 on 14/10/2007 00:16:00 Oh man.. except for the new engine effects like self shadowing and normal maps... the old ship looks WAY better. I see why they took that off the main page. Technology goes forward but the look and feel goes backwards twice as far. I agree with what is being said about the windows... why did the window size change from engine to engine? That makes no sense. Why was this huge inconsistency not discovered earlier in the design? Awesome works on the shaders, lighting and shadowing, but holy crap if this is an indication of what we will be looking at for the next few years please provide a client with the lighting enhancements on the old models... that bugger is painful... Edited for stupid spelling.
Tareen Kashaar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.14 05:03:00 - [34] There is no need for whining, really. That shot is a work in progress, as has been said before. As such, I'm pretty sure that the art direction at CCP is aware of issues like this, but I wanted to post these thoughts anyway - just in case, you know. --- WTS: Forum Signatures, price negotiable. Evemail me!
Azrael Maxim Flexible Demeanour	Posted - 2007.10.14 08:57:00 - [35] Originally by: Tareen Kashaar There is no need for whining, really. That shot is a work in progress, as has been said before. As such, I'm pretty sure that the art direction at CCP is aware of issues like this, but I wanted to post these thoughts anyway - just in case, you know. Well i think there is a need for concern as the new engine is supposed to be released in less then 2 months, even though its classified as a work in progress I wonder how much time the art department can spend on redoing a model like that.
Duckeye	Posted - 2007.10.14 10:19:00 - [36] I honestly don't give a damn about the window size, and neither do any of you when your in the middle of a battle. You don't have time to admire your pretty windows when your getting sniped...just be appreciative of the graphical boost were getting as whole. Any graphical improvement is a good one in my opinion. Besides, the reason why they are making amarrian battleships look cruiser sized is because thats what they are worth in pvp.
Drenan	Posted - 2007.10.14 10:34:00 - [37] Will people please stop confusing constructive feedback with 'whining'. Anyone who believes that the 'devs always know best'...needs to take a long hard look at the track record of certain CCP ship designers over the past four years. They have inflicted some of the most 'aesthetically challenged' models ever seen in a game on the long suffering population of Eve. Game artists and modelers need to be kept on a very short leash...fugly spaceships are not 'cool' and pink phallus shaped spaceships (complete with *******) are just a very bad joke.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.10.14 10:39:00 - [38] I this is late on the bandwagon but... it's the missing ammar frigate! ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room...
TA6YPET	Posted - 2007.10.14 10:58:00 - [39] CCP guys, seriously, you have to fire your head designer. Have you ever seen windows and shiny lights on a tank? on a real life battleship ? or maybe some holes and spaces in armor coating? it's NOT realistic, and it is total crap. Noone in his right mind will go to war on a luxury liner, which your gesign team seem to portray, instead of war vessels. Combat ships must look dangerous, well armed and armoured. Big guns, thick armour, NO WINDOWS.
Mrski Okupator Amarr The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.14 11:47:00 - [40] Well, since it is work in progress, please work on turning those lights off. ___ Apocalypse Mining. Mine your way to heaven. What playing Amarr feels like. Shamelessly snatched from Almarez.
royal killer Amarr The Funkalistic SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.14 18:25:00 - [41] They better improve the design on the apoc, cuz if its gonna be like that in the Trinity expansion, its gonna be way fuglier, the apoc's look (only thing he has) and theyr taking it away,,,,amazing --------------------
BCBArclight Odessa Operations	Posted - 2007.10.24 17:53:00 - [42] Sorry for digging this back up BUT......... MORE GOLD!!! Blinding my enemy with my golden hull is one of the main tactics I use when flying my geddon :P Odessa Operations are Recruiting

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