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Joran Delta
Gallente The Singularity Amalgamation
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Posted - 2007.10.13 06:46:00 -
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Hey all. I have been playing EVE now for about 5 months. Mainly focused on Gunnery, Drones, and the basic support skills. I ultimately would like to be a T2 small ship specialist, can be in a Assault Ship, Interceptor or Covert Ops in 12-20 days respectively. Been mostly a 0.0 pilot and when it comes to POS warfare I am usually support.
However I've noticed that BS's always seem to be in short supply. So my queston is it is worth spending a week or 2 to get my BS skill to 4, Large Hybrid to 4 and a few more support skills up before going for a T2 ship. Yes I know I wont be a super uber BS pilot but proably funtional enough to shoot a POS and in my mind more helpful.
The main reason I want to fly a T2 ship is it would be nice to just be able to finally use one. I can use alot of T2 gear but not a ship yet. Yet I dont mind putting it of for awhile. Thanks for the advice 
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Typhoon Class
Celta's Cross
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Posted - 2007.10.13 06:51:00 -
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I would suggest be a T2 frigate pilot, become a skilled tackler and you'll ALWAYS be in demand. BS's are a dime a dozen , everyone wants to pilot the biggest and the baddest.
Remember this though: A Surgeon saves lives with a Scalpel, not a Machete.
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.13 07:26:00 -
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BS's are exactly what the abbreviation means "BS" for real they are boring in my eyes.
I suggest training your way from AF to HAC's to CS plus doing so will give more of a variety of ships to fly.
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Adqam
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.13 07:46:00 -
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If you have a source of income, there's no reason not to stick with small ships till you want to move on. Reason most people go to BS is to run Level 4 missions for isk. -- I like cheese. |

Harris
Warspite Developments
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Posted - 2007.10.13 08:06:00 -
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You say you're considering training your battleship skills up some to help out with POS bashing. That being the case, a week or two isn't a big ask to be an 'acceptable level BS pilot'(thought it might feel like it sometimes). It might even help you make a little cash as you can rat in them too.
After that, you can switch back to spec frig training and push that as far as you want to go. Like another poster said you will always be in demand on offensive ops.
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Wayward Hooligan
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.10.13 10:37:00 -
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Fly whatever interests you more.
If you like tackling and scouting fly a ceptor.
If you like scanning thigns down and sneaking about fly a cov ops.
Both paths open up valueable ships.
Ceptor goes to Dictors. A good dictor pilot can write his ticket into any 0.0 alliance in the game. They're that valueable.
Cov Ops goes to Recons. Recons are a great force multiplier in small gang pvp. A good Rook pilot can break tackles, shut down BS and Carriers and generally prevent other EWAR ships from doing their job.
Curse is a capital killer. Fit it with Neuts, speed and cap and it will be able to break a carrier/dreads tank in a big hurry. Not dying to support is a lot of work but it is possible.
As for a BS. They are worth training for. A t2 BS puts out great DPS at all kinds of ranges.
If you like frigs, I'd recommend Ceptor->Dictor.
Once you can fly the hell out of your ceptor and dictor of choice, train straight to a t2 BS.
That will give you the ability to fill 3 valueable rolls in 0.0 pvp in a relatively short period of time.
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Stakhanov
Katana's Edge
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Posted - 2007.10.13 11:44:00 -
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BS are a priority , if you seek to be a versatile fighter. Sometimes you need a decent battleship gang to lay the smack down.
I'd say T2 frigs aren't cost effective at all , at 5 months... (unless you amassed a fortune ?)
Covops are an interesting specialty , but aren't supposed to actually engage. In fleet battles , you should always stay cloaked and flying / warping around. Their most important job is to probe targets , which requires a heavy SP investment in astrometric skills.
You won't regret training for a mega. Indeed , the 2 skills you mentionned are surprisingly short to train. With faction ammo , you don't need T2 guns to have a very high DPS.
Originally by: F'nog One does not simply log into Jita.
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Sc0rphion
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Posted - 2007.10.13 14:07:00 -
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Simply:
10 t2 frigates is lower than 1 BS
10 t2 frigates pwnd the ass of 1 BS
More simple.. : Bs are for large fights with many many people and big corps
U are to little for that;) folow my advice... Train first yours skills before train the Ships
dont jump off little ones to big ones..!! U will end dead for unexperience and angry with yourself
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.13 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sc0rphion Simply:
10 t2 frigates is lower than 1 BS
10 t2 frigates pwnd the ass of 1 BS
More simple.. : Bs are for large fights with many many people and big corps
U are to little for that;) folow my advice... Train first yours skills before train the Ships
dont jump off little ones to big ones..!! U will end dead for unexperience and angry with yourself
And when 10 T2 frigates go up against even 5 battleships, then what? OF COURSE 10 frigates are going to be able to blob a single enemy, except maybe a capital ship. I've seen it done-with 8 T1 frigates and a cruiser. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |

Soultaker Angel
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Posted - 2007.10.13 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Acoco Osiris
Originally by: Sc0rphion Simply:
10 t2 frigates is lower than 1 BS
10 t2 frigates pwnd the ass of 1 BS
More simple.. : Bs are for large fights with many many people and big corps
U are to little for that;) folow my advice... Train first yours skills before train the Ships
dont jump off little ones to big ones..!! U will end dead for unexperience and angry with yourself
And when 10 T2 frigates go up against even 5 battleships, then what? OF COURSE 10 frigates are going to be able to blob a single enemy, except maybe a capital ship. I've seen it done-with 8 T1 frigates and a cruiser.
Why you post without know? you dont realize?
10 t2 owns easily 2 BS and make inoperative one more
And if you bring 5 BS fitted with all your stuff for BS YOu spend more thatn Bringing 50 T2 frigates fitted with the best For half price
You should shut up. And learn some math EFT player
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Sc0rphion
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Posted - 2007.10.13 14:27:00 -
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U never know .. Maybe some day he will dare u to make pvp in EFT :O
The new revelation XIII Will have a EFT play sys
maybe Bush will agree Maybe CCP stop nerfing Amarrian Maybe Chaves go out Venzuela Maybe Acoco learns to play?
Or just simply I stop fighting with him !! !!!!!! poor little guy.. some day when you find me in game.. i will teach you that you dont know anything of this game newbie :(
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Subject3416
Caldari Pretentious Latin Name
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Posted - 2007.10.13 17:01:00 -
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Play whatever you have FUN playing with. Being supportive to your corp is all fine and good, but at the end of the day the guy in the T1 frigate plinking away with a gatling pulse 1 is a bigger help than the guy who burned out and said "Screw you!"
Personally, I like spamming heavies from a caracal.
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Joran Delta
Gallente The Singularity Amalgamation
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Posted - 2007.10.13 18:34:00 -
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Thanks for the advice everyone, I think I may spend a few days so I can at least undock a BS, and see what its like. Then will continue on my T2 ship path / support skill path. 
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Darius Amir
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Posted - 2007.10.13 18:50:00 -
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Well, I myself have tossed this question around a lot myself.
I currently have Large T2 pulses, Amarr Cruiser 5, BS5, BC5, etc, etc - and I wish I never trained for them. I have had FAR more fun in the game using AFs, Ceptors, and stealth bombers. I'm training for the Heretic currently.
If I had it all to do again I wouldn't be in anything larger then a dictor. The game is not fun for me in a big slow boring ship.
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Karrade Krise
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Posted - 2007.10.13 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Karrade Krise on 13/10/2007 19:21:56
Originally by: Soultaker Angel
Originally by: Acoco Osiris
Originally by: Sc0rphion Simply:
10 t2 frigates is lower than 1 BS
10 t2 frigates pwnd the ass of 1 BS
More simple.. : Bs are for large fights with many many people and big corps
U are to little for that;) folow my advice... Train first yours skills before train the Ships
dont jump off little ones to big ones..!! U will end dead for unexperience and angry with yourself
And when 10 T2 frigates go up against even 5 battleships, then what? OF COURSE 10 frigates are going to be able to blob a single enemy, except maybe a capital ship. I've seen it done-with 8 T1 frigates and a cruiser.
Why you post without know? you dont realize?
10 t2 owns easily 2 BS and make inoperative one more
And if you bring 5 BS fitted with all your stuff for BS YOu spend more thatn Bringing 50 T2 frigates fitted with the best For half price
You should shut up. And learn some math EFT player
Learn some Grammar and English. You should at least get your Basic Grammar and English to level 4 before trying to talk sh*t to someone in the forums over something so dumb.
On topic, most any blob can kill a single opponent. If they're all T2, then you could kill more big targets. BS's are good for DPS and large fights. I'd say go with T2 Frigs for now and get all your support skills up. These are more important than anything else.
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.13 19:28:00 -
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Smaller ships are more fun, faster, more agile and can bring some real pain if they're set up right. I like cruisers myself.
I made an interesting discovery last night screwing around with EFT. Set up a vexor for pure, raw gankage (with cruiser 5), add 4 T2 neutrons, 3 t2 mag stabs and a mix of heavy/medium/light drones. It does battlecruiser-range DPS and could even outdamage a BS if the BS pilot has low skills.
Vexor Zomg Gank - with me flying it Maxed Gank Vexor
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Sokot
Gallente Brute Force Algorithm
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Posted - 2007.10.13 20:13:00 -
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To put it in perspective, if you are considering going the Tech II route, you are looking at a year or so before you can fly a Command Ship properly, what difference does a couple of weeks really mean? You hear all kinds of moaning about people missing out on so many hours worth of skilltime during extended DT, I mean come on, if you are serious about Eve you`ll prolly be here for at least a coupe of years. I`d say go get the BS and don`t bother if you don`t intend to pilot it properly. The only BS-specific skills are the BS skill itself and heavy hybrids, all other needed skills are needed to fly most other ships properly too. And believe me, it is a good feeling to undock a Megathron with a full rack of ions and pounce on some unsuspecting chap, or even better, a suspecting one (as he will most likely put his dukes up... ;))
In Eve, as in most parts of life, versatility is what makes life fun and entertaining, and BS are well worth the effort to at least experience. Plus you obviously need BS5 for capitals... "He was quite mad and knew it very well, but being mad he did not care" |
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