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Seiei Hana
Fall From Grace
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Posted - 2012.01.24 06:53:00 -
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I like using keyboard shortcuts. T = target, W = orbit, E = keep at range, and so on.
Why do these shortcuts only work when I select an object via the Overview? They don't work when I select an object in space, or when I select one of my ship's locked targets.
Should they work in those instances and I'm just missing something? Or should I post this in the Suggestions forum instead? |
Kata Amentis
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.01.24 12:25:00 -
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Those shortcut keys are designed to only work when the overview has focus (ie the overview is the selected window)...
imagine if they weren't... you're fighting some other player: select him on the overview (giving the overview the focus), 't' for target, 'a' for approach, switch focus to chat channel "got him!!! everyone in" (ok ok you should be using voice coms, but it's only an example...) you just issued half a dozen commands whilst calling in reinforcements!
there are shortcuts that work regardless of focus: [shift]ctrl + click for targetting, alt + click for center view, [shift][ctrl]f1-f8 for modules etc. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.01.24 12:36:00 -
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A better way for them to work would be if any window has focus, except for the chat window (and any other windows expecting text window, such as asset search). Specifically, to also work if no window has focus. |
Kata Amentis
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.01.24 13:00:00 -
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except the market window, or P&P, or any cargo window with a filter box, or...
the chat window isn't the only place where you type in text without wanting you ship to react to it.
My gut says they've picked the current implementation as a "simplest option that works" rather than opening the can of worms of "works when not in this list, or part of this group or when it's the third moon of the month...". But feel free to make the suggestions, who knows it could just be gas  |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
340
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Posted - 2012.01.24 14:41:00 -
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Even the simple "works when no window has focus" would go a long way towards making them usable. |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2012.01.24 17:19:00 -
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Btw guys all the shortcut keys that work on the overview focus also work by holding them down and clicking a target or object in space.
For instance E+Lclick
The Drake is a Lie |
Seiei Hana
Fall From Grace
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Posted - 2012.01.24 18:00:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Btw guys all the shortcut keys that work on the overview focus also work by holding them down and clicking a target or object in space.
For instance E+Lclick
Wow, Xercodo, I never would have tried that. Thanks, that works perfectly! |
Jak Savage
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.25 06:29:00 -
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IGÇÖm also of the opinion that the hot keys should have dominance over most everything, with stuff requiring text input overriding them. Just because I open a cargo container doesnGÇÖt mean it should have preference, and override the hot keys, unless I purposefully click with in its search context box.
Hopefully CCP will invest a bit more and streamline the shortcuts, I thought it was awesome when they added them in the first place, was a move in the right direction. But letGÇÖs not stop there, there are still changes that can make this better still.
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Renier Gaden
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.10 13:24:00 -
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Is there are keyboard shortcut for Lock Target? Finding Lock Target in the menu each time is a real pain.
I am also interested in a shortcut for Open Cargo.
Or does EVE only have shortcuts for stuff you donGÇÖt use very often?
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Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2012.02.10 15:22:00 -
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Renier Gaden wrote:Is there are keyboard shortcut for Lock Target? Finding Lock Target in the menu each time is a real pain.
I am also interested in a shortcut for Open Cargo.
Or does EVE only have shortcuts for stuff you donGÇÖt use very often?
Like Xercodo said earlier, you can hold down ctrl and left-click something in space to lock it. You can also ctrl click on your overview, which is how I lock my targets. Alt + C is cargo shortcut.
There are many more in your escape menu if you want to check some more out.
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Renier Gaden
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:07:00 -
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Thanks for the tip on looking in the escape menu. GÇ£Teach am man to fishGÇ¥ and all that. |
Duck Mouth
Nebula Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:33:00 -
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I only use the F1-F8 keys as hot keys, and i only do it at the onset of an engagement to get the jump/first shot on someone. after that point and click is usually fast enough for me. |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:49:00 -
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Renier Gaden wrote:Is there are keyboard shortcut for Lock Target? Finding Lock Target in the menu each time is a real pain.
I am also interested in a shortcut for Open Cargo.
Or does EVE only have shortcuts for stuff you donGÇÖt use very often?
Ctrl+Click is what you're looking for IIRC (I'm not 100% sure though, since I'm not in-game ATM and it's such muscle reflex for me at this point that I don't pay attention to the hotkey, lol). |
Ursula LeGuinn
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Posted - 2012.02.10 21:14:00 -
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The default hotkey combo for Lock Target is indeed CTRL-LMB (click).
Like the other hotkeys, though, if you already have something selected on the Overview, hold down CTRL for a moment, and then release, your ship will attempt to target the selected item GÇö no clicking required. CTRL is therefore the bane of rookie tackler pilots who have a nearby gate selected and then release CTRL with hod mods.
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LordElfa
Golden Lyon Warriors
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Posted - 2012.04.05 21:11:00 -
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Kilrayn wrote:Renier Gaden wrote:Is there are keyboard shortcut for Lock Target? Finding Lock Target in the menu each time is a real pain.
I am also interested in a shortcut for Open Cargo.
Or does EVE only have shortcuts for stuff you donGÇÖt use very often?
Like Xercodo said earlier, you can hold down ctrl and left-click something in space to lock it. You can also ctrl click on your overview, which is how I lock my targets. Alt + C is cargo shortcut. There are many more in your escape menu if you want to check some more out.
Sorry to bring this back here, but you misunderstood him Kilrayn.
He doesn't mean the hotkey for opening your ship's cargo, he means the "Open Cargo" bind for opening the cargo on wrecks.
It's simply missing and it needs to be put back. |
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