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Necrocavus Caldari Necrons Scalar Federation	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:27:00 - [1] I'll just write some thoughts, but I am not expert at all. List should be PvP based mainly. So, Please help me to fill this: Assult Ship: Gallente - Ishkur Battlecruiser ??? Battleship Gallente - All ships Carrier ??? Command Ship Gallente - Eos Covert Op All races Dreadnought ??? Heavy Assault Ship Minmatar - Vagabond Interceptor Minmatar - Stiletto Interdictor All races Logistics Caldari for shield Gallente for armor (in fact Amarr better but not feasible to train amarr just for logistics) Recon Ship Caldari (other races for tackling but ceptor is enough for tackling right?) Titan
Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:33:00 - [2] Originally by: Necrocavus I'll just write some thoughts, but I am not expert at all. List should be PvP based mainly. So, Please help me to fill this: Assult Ship: Gallente - Ishkur Battlecruiser ??? Battleship Gallente - All ships Carrier ??? Command Ship Gallente - Eos Covert Op All races Dreadnought ??? Heavy Assault Ship Minmatar - Vagabond Interceptor Minmatar - Stiletto Interdictor All races Logistics Caldari for shield Gallente for armor (in fact Amarr better but not feasible to train amarr just for logistics) Recon Ship Caldari (other races for tackling but ceptor is enough for tackling right?) Titan You can first grow up... Search for a couple.. HAve sex for first time.. and after this.. Post again a thread of millions years that pops up every day
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:37:00 - [3] bc: probably myrmi / hurricane for pvp, pve winner is drake by far bs: i'm in love with arma, but hard to say, too many roles. carrier: archon command ship: all sucks compared to tier 2 bc cov ops: cheetah dread: moros inty: prob. crow, but kinda obsolete with sabres around interdictors: there is sabre to rule them all logistics: guardian and schimitar (win for nanogangs), but all are good, imo gallente is kinda worst, but still good. recon: rapier, arazu, huginn, lachesis (pretty much this order) titan: avatar or gallente one. What needs looking into: sabre, vaga.
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:38:00 - [4] A list of "best ships" is so full of bull**** that a politician would shy away. For example-you list the Vagabond as the best HAC, but is not the Deimos better at DPS? Is not the Ishtar a very powerful drone boat? Can't a Vagabond be totally countered by the Huginn? Don't the Amarr/Caldari HACs have their uses (never really looked into them myself, so I wouldn't know in particular) This thread has but one word to describe it. Fail. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Stakhanov Katana's Edge	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:41:00 - [5] Carrier is easy , that's the Thanatos. Looks like you missed the Crow. Arazu is probably the best recon , assuming it gets nerfed then it's the Rapier. Also , Flycatcher & Sabre are supposed to be superior to other dictors. BC would be Myrmidon right now , perhaps Hurricane after rev III. Originally by: F'nog One does not simply log into Jita.
Necrocavus Caldari Necrons Scalar Federation	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:47:00 - [6] Scorphion, I am trying to gather all opinions in one place. Otherwise, you have to read tons of post for each ship, then interpret them. Why don't you help instead of that post? This way, it can help people to plan their skills. For example, one person does not lose time with Cerberus if Vagabond is superios in PvP. Other than helping newbies, I opened a second account. And I don't want to train each type of ships for all races. This saves time when you consider training of ideal modules too. Why train Large autocannon Specialization while Megathron with Large Railguns are right there?
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:57:00 - [7] So you want to lead every newbie into training for the FoTM, only to see it nerfed, the newbies complain, when they could've just picked something which suited their style and done well in it? ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:57:00 - [8] Asking for "what is best" won't really help you in long run. For instance, amarr hacs used to suck, now sacri once people get their skills trained it could be easily better than vaga... at least at running away :/ Also blasterthron was really good 1year ago, now it's crap to fly as you'll die in 3j from where you start, but nothing drastic changed considering the ship itself. Or titans.. .you won't get one. Or carriers... you don't just train one race bs 5 because it has best carrier :/ Just stick with it, but if you want to pve only, caldari 4tw, for pvp minmatar/gallente. Amarr is good but requires tons of skills and other stuff to really work.
Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Necrocavus Scorphion, I am trying to gather all opinions in one place. Otherwise, you have to read tons of post for each ship, then interpret them. Why don't you help instead of that post? This way, it can help people to plan their skills. For example, one person does not lose time with Cerberus if Vagabond is superios in PvP. Other than helping newbies, I opened a second account. And I don't want to train each type of ships for all races. This saves time when you consider training of ideal modules too. Why train Large autocannon Specialization while Megathron with Large Railguns are right there? The thing is that always this THREAD pops up... and u need to use a little search to see that ALWAY get tons of crapanswerPost But ok... !! One more. one tear for the sea Crow.. isnt so good than others Dont call it best Sabre = Coercer > all rests Command.... mmmmm mmm thought one !! mmm Resistance nothign like Dammnation... after buffed of course But overall command = Eos Carrier = Thanathos .. Ppl be real Gallente are best in drones!! Archon have armor resistance ?? so what? u will never be alone in a carrier !! And logistic can make all diferent Logistic = Guardian Recon.. mmm hard hard hard. PREFER TO SAY Caldari over Gallente .. why? becouse i want to.. and i can! but whatever its who lock first Yes blah blah Mimmatar (i fly one so stfu) mm still prefer ECM but that alls depend of who its ur enemy Shuttle = Amarrian one BC = Hurricane hits you like tyson Yes myrmi seems good Counter: Smartbombing noobs battle ship .... I DONT USE THIS I HAVE ONE BUT i dont use it !!! so i canot say anything .. Why? A hac burn it down in amazing record time ;) ANd i always go in gang :O I like geddon Panthys = I dont know.. i prefer see a woman in a Boxer.. With a hole :O
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:07:00 - [10] I nominate Scorphion for Least Intelligible and Least Informed Forum Poster of the Day Award! For example: The Archon's preferred precisely because of the armor resistances bonus-that gives it a lot more survivability in the face of inevitable ganks. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:11:00 - [11] Originally by: Acoco Osiris I nominate Scorphion for Least Intelligible and Least Informed Forum Poster of the Day Award! For example: The Archon's preferred precisely because of the armor resistances bonus-that gives it a lot more survivability in the face of inevitable ganks. Flame mode on: Look idiot with EFT That donst have any ships and try to post all fittings without use it If your mom dosnt love you i will repeat you again!! Marry with EFT You are so noob that u believe that a Carrier pilot will be alone against other carrier pilot.!! You know why? becouse you dont use carriers... I believe you only can use little shuttles . One word for you my little weird paadwan LOGISTICS GIVE ARMOR A LOT Go to your EFT and try to get some experience ;) Flame mode off Trying to ignore EFT players
Soultaker Angel	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:18:00 - [12] Why i always have to see this posts of evil, EFT people should die with EMO people and Pedofilics! Acoco you never get tired of Other people owns your ass in every post? I dont know But every post that i see Diferent people *****you. May i suggest in a beautiful way: GET OUT maybe you even dont play Eve and you are ussing your sisters account to Post and have a life in forums. Well doesnt matter. Newbie people are always Newbie people. And you my friend are the EFT player with the noob grade A that i ever seen. BTW Sc0rp. Sometimes you need let childrens be. That is the only they can be and yes EFT its a plague and yes Emo people should die (sorry if you are one of them ::P i really don't know) But STFU ALL OF YOU and get real play Efters
Dracon Zethera	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:20:00 - [13] I just play gallente because that is all I play, but when I do see fighting drakes are the most popular BC I run into not the myrm. For the most popular interceptor I never see stilletos, they are usually crows. I usually see a mix of BS, mega being pretty common but ravens are fairly common also. Carriers are probably thantos and HACs are definately vagas. Interdictor definately isnt every race, the flycatcher is definately more common than the other races interdictors.
Necrocavus Caldari Necrons Scalar Federation	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:23:00 - [14] Could you please stop flaming each other? If you think it's useless post, and if you don't want to state your opinions for ships, then please don't make a post. I made this post to learn something. If you don't want to teach, your choice. I just want to plan my skills on two accounts simultaneously. Period.
Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:25:00 - [15] Ok ok Want some chocolat cookieS?? they are yumi yumi
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:26:00 - [16] Originally by: Sc0rphion Originally by: Acoco Osiris I nominate Scorphion for Least Intelligible and Least Informed Forum Poster of the Day Award! For example: The Archon's preferred precisely because of the armor resistances bonus-that gives it a lot more survivability in the face of inevitable ganks. Flame mode on: Look idiot with EFT That donst have any ships and try to post all fittings without use it If your mom dosnt love you i will repeat you again!! Marry with EFT You are so noob that u believe that a Carrier pilot will be alone against other carrier pilot.!! You know why? becouse you dont use carriers... I believe you only can use little shuttles . One word for you my little weird paadwan LOGISTICS GIVE ARMOR A LOT Go to your EFT and try to get some experience ;) Flame mode off Trying to ignore EFT players And each point of armor transferred to an Archon = 1 and a third points of armor transferred to a Thanatos. Aren't resist bonuses great? Sc0rph, you are drunk and are flaming me. Sure, I don't have that much real experience. But I've listened to things from players that do have plenty of experience. This is what makes the difference. And I'm betting that Soultaker Angel is your alt. Just as poor grasp of English, the exact same points, very similar posting times, biased and prejudiced. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:27:00 - [17] Originally by: Necrocavus Could you please stop flaming each other? If you think it's useless post, and if you don't want to state your opinions for ships, then please don't make a post. I made this post to learn something. If you don't want to teach, your choice. I just want to plan my skills on two accounts simultaneously. Period. Sorry, but this guy's taken it upon himself to equate me with a pedophile, insulting me, and I had to respond. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:29:00 - [18] Originally by: Acoco Osiris Originally by: Necrocavus Could you please stop flaming each other? If you think it's useless post, and if you don't want to state your opinions for ships, then please don't make a post. I made this post to learn something. If you don't want to teach, your choice. I just want to plan my skills on two accounts simultaneously. Period. Sorry, but this guy's taken it upon himself to equate me with a pedophile, insulting me, and I had to respond. Mom Mom Sc0rphi its bothering me MOOOOM MOOOMMM :'( i need and ice cream for stop been so newbie
Soultaker Angel	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:30:00 - [19] Dude let it be We all tired of Owning him .. maybe some day he will kill himself
Atius Tirawa Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:05:00 - [20] AS: Ishkur or Vengence BC: Myrmidon BB: Megathron (can snipe and small gang with different mods) Carrier: Thanatos or Archon CS: EOS, Nighthawk Cov. Ops: All Same Dread: Revelation (a.k.a. The 'Correct' Dread) HAC: Vegabond or Ishtar Inti: Crusaider Interdictor: Heretic Logistics: Guardian Recon: Arazu/Rapier --- Conclution: Train Gallente all round, train Minmatar for spacific ships if you really feel you need to train them (personally I think mastering one race is plenty - takes a long time actually) but train Amarr for caps.
Twin blade Minmatar The Triangle Exa Nation	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:21:00 - [21] I gota laugh when i read Thanatos or Archon as best carrier. Thanatos damage bonus means nothing your not gona have your fighter's so no damage bonus. You got a slow lock time so your lucky to lock any ship befor the enemy got damps on you so you gota give the fighter's to other member's so they can be used to full effect. Archon yer the tank bonus is helpfull but again kind of pointless. By the time the enemy will bother to try and kill you there gang most likey killed all your support and will Neut/Nos your cap so you can't tank. The best carrier is the one that keeps your gang alive so saying well mine got a damage bonus or tank bonus means nothing when your gang is gone. No gang means nothing but the sever going down is going to save your carrier vs even a simi smart gang. !
Necrocavus Caldari Necrons Scalar Federation	Posted - 2007.10.13 19:08:00 - [22] No more comment?
TheEndofTheWorld	Posted - 2007.10.13 19:38:00 - [23] AS: Irrelevant, as they don't have a role BC: Hurricane... depends how they nerf myrmidon. BS: Best fleet sniper is tempest imo. As small gang DPS dealers: Blastermega, ACMaelstorm, Pulsearma work good. Tbh, most BSes can be pretty good, with the exception of Scorp/Apoc, everything can be used just fine. Solo-BS died a while ago, so I guess this is irrelevant Carrier: Everything that isn't caldari. Everyone armor tanks, e.g better for remote repping if everyone can armor tank. CS: Sleipnir Cov. Ops: All Same Dread: Moros. Sentry dps + normal gun dps > all HAC: 1. Vagabond 2. Ishtar Inti: Crow Interdictor: Sabre Logistics: Scimatar, but the rest are ok too... Recon: Huginn, Arazu... Post new patch I see rook as the only viable disabling EW platform. --- Conclusion: Minmatar-online.
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.10.13 23:13:00 - [24] Edited by: Laboratus on 13/10/2007 23:14:21 Assult Ship meh, ceptors are better Battlecruiser Minmatar - Hurricane Battleship Minmatar - Maelstrom/ Amarr - Armageddon (gankageddon 4tw) Carrier Amarr - Archon with Caldari - Chimera close behind Command Ship Minmatar - Claymore (call me crazy, but red nanogangs go fasta) Covert Op Caldari - Buzzard (slot layout ftw) Dreadnought Gallente - Revelation (pulse 4tw) Heavy Assault Ship Minmatar - Vagabond Interceptor Caldari - Crow Interdictor Minmatar - Sabre/ Caldari - Flycatcher Logistics Caldari for shield Amarr for armour Recon Ship Minmatar - Rapier/huggin Titan Amarr - Avatar (the bonus makes a huge difference) ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
grab man Caldari F.A.D.E Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:52:00 - [25] Originally by: Necrocavus Edited by: Necrocavus on 13/10/2007 23:38:56 Edited by: Necrocavus on 13/10/2007 23:17:34 I'll just write some thoughts, but I am not expert at all. List should be PvP based mainly. Since so many interesting resistance to the question I'll try to state the question in another way: Think this post as which single race you would prefer if you have to choose one for each ship type according to current game dynamics? It's not about being best prolly. It's about being prefered over others. So, Please help me to fill this: Assult Ship: Gallente - Ishkur Battlecruiser Minmatar - Hurricane Battleship Gallente - All ships Carrier Gallente - Thanatos Command Ship Gallente - Eos Covert Op All races Dreadnought Gallente - Moros Heavy Assault Ship Minmatar - Vagabond Interceptor Caldari - Crow Interdictor Minmatar - Sabre Logistics Caldari for shield Gallente for armor (in fact Amarr better but not feasible to train amarr just for logistics) Recon Ship Caldari (for jamming) Minmatar - Rapier Titan Amarr - Avatar OK first off, bad post idea, second the teir 2 bcs are not and never will be superior to any of teh command ships, im sorry but they arent, the teir 2 bc wwould have to be factioned to the teeth to come close to a command sho that is all
Forkrul	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:50:00 - [26] Edited by: Forkrul on 14/10/2007 02:52:04 Assault Ship Gallente, Ishkur, 40m3 dronebay big for frigate. Battlecruiser Gallente, Myrmidon, Tank AND Gank Battleship I like all of them. Carrier Amarr, Archon, super tank. Command Ship Gallente, Eos, seems like the most battle made Fleet Command Ship. Covert Ops Minmatar, Hound, fastest moving and explosive bonus, most common tank is armor. Dreadnought Amarr, Revelation, no ammo, awesome tank... super-sieger. Heavy Assault Ship Minmatar, Vagabond, freedom. Interceptor Minmatar, Stiletto, mid slots. Interdictor Caldari, Flycatcher, mid slots. Logistic Amarr, Guardian, armor and capacitor, nuff said. Recon (2) Gallente, Lachesis, warp disruption. Minmatar, Rapier, webification. Titan Amarr, Avatar, capacitor bonus. Who the frak get's excited over YAY 37.5% MORE ARMOR/SHIELD! Sig bonus only useful to some. The good results from any capacitor boost are ubiquitous. Well, okay... they can be good, but capacitor is simply too seductive.
Tappits Caldari Cross Roads	Posted - 2007.10.14 11:40:00 - [27] Assult Ship: Minmatar - Wolf Battlecruiser Gallente - Myrmidon Battleship Gallente - Neutron Blaster Cannon II or similar Carrier Gallente û Thanatos but I do love the Archon as well Command Ship Gallente - Astarte Covert Op Caldari - Buzzard Dreadnought Gallente - Moros Heavy Assault Ship Minmatar - Vagabond and a close 2nd goes to the Deimos Interceptor Caldari - Crow Interdictor Minmatar - Sabre Logistics Caldari for shield Amarr û Guardian Recon Ship Amarr - Pilgrim Titan Gallente û Erebus -I suck at pvp but that does not stop me from poping your pod :)
Sunshine xXx	Posted - 2007.10.14 12:04:00 - [28] Recon Gallente Arazu done:)

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