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Natas Dog Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 19:49:00 - [61] Originally by: Taj Zela Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Eowyn Minmatarkiller Maybee you laugh because all your stuff are allready evacuated? If so, GG. You can bet your cotton socks that all the RISE directorate and CEO's have their stuff safely tucked away or evacuated/made deals for. They have seen this coming for months. You guys were renters, were the ISK is king.... what did you expect, when the ship started sinking? You are the most tiresome mouth on the forums. Please die I disagree. It's you, you're the most tiresome mouth on these forums. Nez is probably one of the few posters around here that has a pretty solid record of decent posts. Besides me of course, I'm the best poster on this forum (Like being the smartest kid with :downs:, I know. _______________________________________________________________ He who laughs last... is usually the one the joke was about.
Calimor Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 19:50:00 - [62] Originally by: Natas Dog I love all the RISE guys trying to pass this off as a goon alt post. Do you honestly think that we need to make up sob stories for ex-RISE members with crap left in station? We have tons of cannon fodder c/p'd straight from your forums we could be posting here, we don't need to make up a damn thing. I don't even understand why you're trying to spin this one, it's over. Now we're just mocking you and enjoying the lamentations of yet another alliance hemorrhaging corps and members left and right as a result of being evicted by a bunch of disorganized 13 year olds who can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Also, in case you didn't notice Goons don't use l33tsp33k as a rule; and if we do it's because we're making fun of some**got (or worse naming an entire alliance, you know who you are) using that **** non-english. In a nutshell, we don't need to invent pubbie tears as a result of your eviction from the RIT triangle, your own forums are chock full with plenty of very real ones for us to circlejerk over. Seriously, if you're using bad grammar and l33tsp33k as a telltale sign of a goon post, your intel organization really is as **ty as your alliance. You forgot they think we're the things we make fun of. Namely themselves, although they can't see how sad they are. IT'S A PARADOX OF LIFE. It's easy to spot these fake-posts because goons don't leetspeak, a good amount of goons are against loling or whatever (ROFL, LULZ etc are a bannable offense at Something Awful forum. Using broken english or aol-speak is a bannable offense too). And even though we basically have been spewing to our enemies truths about us, they insist in not listening to us, which ultimately result in their own downfall. Which is bad for us because it usually happens so fast we don't even have any kind of challenge. Like RISE. I bet they still post on their forums how we're brainless and idiots and what not, even though they're right now the battered wife of EVE.
Natas Dog Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 19:53:00 - [63] Originally by: Pilk Ev0ke? Aren't they blue to Goon? And you can't argue post provenance on that basis, anyway. If Goons don't use l33tsp34k, then a Goon trying to pretend not to be a good would use it. And if Goons don't use l33tsp34k, then a Goon might forget to disguise himself and avoid it as he typically would. Thus, either outcome points equally to it being a Goon. There's a Wikipedia article on this paradox, but I CBA to find it. --P While your dizzying logic is interesting, no. I don't quite believe the posts I was referring to were from any mental giants to begin with, and therefore find it hard to believe they thought it was a goon post because they knew that we thought it would divert attention to the fact that it might be a goon alt. I think you know that I think you know that I think you're wrong, and so do you. _______________________________________________________________ He who laughs last... is usually the one the joke was about.
Uuve Savisaalo Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.13 19:56:00 - [64] Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 13/10/2007 19:57:36 Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 13/10/2007 19:55:48 Originally by: Flax Volcanus Yeah, most RISE members are at least high school graduates, so we tend to use actual words and semi-correct spellings. Originally by: Rhanger PLN just wanted people to know that was in this gang that Im really sry normally I dont care about what we loose as long as we get the job Im told to do done! Problem here I was miss informed and that really makes me sad.... even mad. I saw people dieing fighting like proud moffos for the job they where assigned to RESPECT TO U GUYS.But we where heavy outnumbered and outgunned and then I suddenly get told that the fleet op the whole CTA wasent that important - try get that one after have had to be a real jerk and be hard on the FLEET so we could keep our goal. I got some guys out managed to drag 20 hostiles just after me so they could enjoy killing me and hope my brave m8s - well some of em came out in one piece. I cant work be a FC for rise anymore and take my leave - not because we lost - prrff we gave em hell, but because being mistold - and therefore being the person that should be the big ass to get the job done - which I always gets done or else die hard trying. hope the best but one FC down . Rhanger PLN - dir former FC ..you were saying, flax?
Tevlent GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 19:56:00 - [65] Edited by: Tevlent on 13/10/2007 19:56:46 Originally by: Calimor I bet they still post on their forums how we're brainless and idiots and what not, even though they're right now the battered wife of EVE. What do you mean still? We are stupid newbees in T1 frigs and go around fofo'ing and suiciding all about. We will never accomplish anything in this game because we are dimwits with no organization and our k:d ratios are the worst of any alliance. Plus we don't exist in the first place so everything is a moot point.
0mega GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:05:00 - [66] Originally by: Empyre already in empire. thanks for the concern, though. have an alt in your alliance, too. care to guess who it is? o_O I have seven alts in his alliance. Guess I win this round.
Vile rat GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:07:00 - [67] Did I hear somebody say fofofo? I think it is time to fofofo
Natas Dog Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:10:00 - [68] fofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofofo Furthermore, _______________________________________________________________ He who laughs last... is usually the one the joke was about.
killerco Gallente The Flying Dutchmen Antesignani Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:13:00 - [69] Originally by: Eowyn Minmatarkiller I contaced a pilot I once flew with that are blue to the goons. I asked him for a safe exit, and he will provide this, he says. I get convoed by a goon member, and make a contract with some named stuff, some ceptors and some low-end T2. Once he got it and I asked where I could pick it up in empire he just laughed and told me to get a life follewed by FOFOFOFOFOFOFOFO, whatever that means. No offense m8 but that was pretty stupid too do so.
Kyrie Elaison GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:15:00 - [70] Originally by: Pilk Edited by: Pilk on 13/10/2007 19:35:12 Originally by: Eowyn Minmatarkiller Yes, I am posting with an alt, because I don't want a friggen grief-war on my main chars, and I am hoping that I to can get accepted into one of the better corps once my current corp dies. So, what I read is: Well our original plan was to go back and take this space we have lost, but looking at our forums, and alliance chats looks like many corps are leaving. I know I am in one of the larger corps in RISE and we are leaving in about 3 days. Congrats to all of the Goons+ friends that won, we had some good fights and conga lines. -- Oh, and by the way, it's "their". Seriously. For the love of all that's holy. Originally by: Kyrie Elaison My advice: your first mistake was joining a renter alliance. Renters never care enough to take care of their living space. Next time, pick somebody willing (and hopefully able) to carve out their own space. Do you even know your own alliance's history? You should really quit Goon and pick somebody willing (and hopfully able) to carve out their own space. By the definition you're imposing here, only BoB and RA would actually qualify. Which are you joining? --P I see you post a lot and you suffer from what I think of as "COAD syndrome." COAD syndrome is marked by an inability to read what's actually written; rather, the reply ends up projecting the writer's opinion of the subject under discussion. To make it simple, read what I wrote rather than projecting your opinion of my alliance on what I wrote. Last I checked, the RSF, which really is a team though many find it hard to believe, has shown a remarkable drive and ability to take and hold space. If you're trying to make the usual "Goons are Red pets" argument, have the balls to do it openly. Don't hide behind insinuations and implications, either say it or don't post. I'd prefer not to be this blunt, but I've read your poor trolling for too long not to lay out the terms in advance. tl;dr: If you can actually read, feel free to respond. If you're a poor O'Reilly clone, **** off.
Calimor Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:15:00 - [71] Originally by: Uuve Savisaalo Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 13/10/2007 19:57:52 Originally by: Flax Volcanus Yeah, most RISE members are at least high school graduates, so we tend to use actual words and semi-correct spellings. Originally by: Rhanger PLN just wanted people to know that was in this gang that Im really sry normally I dont care about what we loose as long as we get the job Im told to do done! Problem here I was miss informed and that really makes me sad.... even mad. I saw people dieing fighting like proud moffos for the job they where assigned to RESPECT TO U GUYS.But we where heavy outnumbered and outgunned and then I suddenly get told that the fleet op the whole CTA wasent that important - try get that one after have had to be a real jerk and be hard on the FLEET so we could keep our goal. I got some guys out managed to drag 20 hostiles just after me so they could enjoy killing me and hope my brave m8s - well some of em came out in one piece. I cant work be a FC for rise anymore and take my leave - not because we lost - prrff we gave em hell, but because being mistold - and therefore being the person that should be the big ass to get the job done - which I always gets done or else die hard trying. hope the best but one FC down . Rhanger PLN - dir former FC ..you were saying, flax? I beat you mate, check my post.
Kyrie Elaison GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:16:00 - [72] Originally by: Empyre Originally by: Jinnigan Hmm yes this new learning is most fascinating, explain to me again how GoonFleet's star is already fading into the background, and how ISS's history of honorable actions has kept them in the center of memory and relevance simple, i make no claims one way or the other. nice try at deflection, though. Originally by: Kyrie Elaison Ok, this post has too many levels of unintended irony to cover in just one post, much less 5 minutes. I'll just highlight the two most prominent. First, you criticize the guy for not being part of a team effort. This is rich coming from ISS. You know, the alliance that hired everybody in the game and STILL lost their space. Nice to see you guys rebounded and took some new space of your own. Oh wai... Second, hell, let me just quote you. "seriously.. even in worst case situation, how hard is it to rebuild your material assets? nm, don't answer.. i've done it MANY times myself." Hey man, don't worry about losing, just be a smart loser! Smart loser, good loser, still a loser. My advice: your first mistake was joining a renter alliance. Renters never care enough to take care of their living space. Next time, pick somebody willing (and hopefully able) to carve out their own space. 1. I make no claims, one way or another, for nor against my alliance. i'm not the one that brings every move of my alliance into these forums, opening the door for criticism. i only make claims of my own views and actions. and my loyalty always has and always will be with my alliance. personally, that's PERSONALLY, i don't see the harm in renting. i'm making no claims for the views of anyone but myself, but i'd personally rather rent than go through various other logistic barriers. isk is EASY to make in this game. I actually feel bad for trolling you now.
Elizabeth Fallbrook GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:16:00 - [73] Originally by: Vile rat Did I hear somebody say fofofo? I think it is time to fofofo Why yes! Yes, I think they did. Let's fofofo together! fofofofofofofofo
Natas Dog Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:19:00 - [74] Originally by: Kyrie Elaison I see you post a lot and you suffer from what I think of as "COAD syndrome." COAD syndrome is marked by an inability to read what's actually written; rather, the reply ends up projecting the writer's opinion of the subject under discussion. To make it simple, read what I wrote rather than projecting your opinion of my alliance on what I wrote. Last I checked, the RSF, which really is a team though many find it hard to believe, has shown a remarkable drive and ability to take and hold space. If you're trying to make the usual "Goons are Red pets" argument, have the balls to do it openly. Don't hide behind insinuations and implications, either say it or don't post. I'd prefer not to be this blunt, but I've read your poor trolling for too long not to lay out the terms in advance. tl;dr: If you can actually read, feel free to respond. If you're a poor O'Reilly clone, ** off. Hey, only one guy kicking this **** at a time! I'm not sure he has the mental fortitude to handle two trains of thought at once. _______________________________________________________________ He who laughs last... is usually the one the joke was about.
Kyrie Elaison GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:20:00 - [75] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Natas Dog Also, in case you didn't notice Goons don't use l33tsp33k as a rule; and if we do it's because we're making fun of some**got (or worse naming an entire alliance, you know who you are) using that **** non-english. In a nutshell, we don't need to invent pubbie tears as a result of your eviction from the RIT triangle, your own forums are chock full with plenty of very real ones for us to circlejerk over. Seriously, if you're using bad grammar and l33tsp33k as a telltale sign of a goon post, your intel organization really is as **ty as your alliance. Ev0ke? Aren't they blue to Goon? And you can't argue post provenance on that basis, anyway. If Goons don't use l33tsp34k, then a Goon trying to pretend not to be a good would use it. And if Goons don't use l33tsp34k, then a Goon might forget to disguise himself and avoid it as he typically would. Thus, either outcome points equally to it being a Goon. There's a Wikipedia article on this paradox, but I CBA to find it. --P Or maybe a certain word is filtered by the forums and the OP evaded it using an easy code. If you really think the OP is a goon, then my doubts about your reading comprehension skills are confirmed.
Vyres Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:32:00 - [76] Edited by: Vyres on 13/10/2007 20:35:02 Originally by: Flax Volcanus Originally by: Dhan This is no RISE alt posting here, it's likely GOON alt instead. And "Props to the R4p3train"... that's goontalk right there. Yeah, most RISE members are at least high school graduates, so we tend to use actual words and semi-correct spellings. Hahaha bull** I have read your forms on a daily bases. Your memebers make argy look like a college english major and short of straight out lieing know it. Most goon's spelling is actually spot on since we have grammar **'s patrolling our boards. Any mistake is normally for emphasis however I cant say the same about your group of morons.
Gontard Minmatar E-Truth	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:36:00 - [77] All the goon muppets replying to a goon pretenting to be a RISE alt jez you suck so much you can't even realize it.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:49:00 - [78] Of course they'd keep the evacuation of the valuables secret. How daft would you be to go public with a retreat date and see enemy activity spike at that date and time from spies, sleepers and general turncoats in the alliance? These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:54:00 - [79] Originally by: Natas Dog I disagree. It's you, you're the most tiresome mouth on these forums. Nez is probably one of the few posters around here that has a pretty solid record of decent posts. Besides me of course, I'm the best poster on this forum (Like being the smartest kid with :downs:, I know. /emote tips hat... And I agree you are the smartest kid with downs.. I mean bestest CAOD poster
Yao Ying GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 20:57:00 - [80] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Kyrie Elaison My advice: your first mistake was joining a renter alliance. Renters never care enough to take care of their living space. Next time, pick somebody willing (and hopefully able) to carve out their own space. Do you even know your own alliance's history? You should really quit Goon and pick somebody willing (and hopfully able) to carve out their own space. By the definition you're imposing here, only BoB and RA would actually qualify. Which are you joining? I, for one, am proud to be the member of a Red Alliance meatshield. I mean, we have never once had to fight to take control of any of the space that we own because our Russian overlords did it for us. Of course, we still have to pay them 20b ISK in rent per month for each of our owned regions, though--which everyone knows that they then ebay off so as to afford food.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 21:08:00 - [81] Originally by: Eowyn Minmatarkiller And hopefully I have enough kills on the KB to get into one of the BOB corps, So you get deserted by an alliance you pay money to for rent/ help, they don't help and your first thoughts are to try to get into that company?
mamolian M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.13 21:19:00 - [82] There'll always be stories of folks logging in after the battles over with everything they own locked down in a station their Corp/Alliance lost etc.. Its just how this game works sadly.. My own Alliance recently benefited greatly to being allowed to evacuate assets from our home in Branch. Our enemies at the time respected us from the months of fighting, and how we conducted ourselves during that time.. I'm sure the significant monetary token helped sweeten the deal for sure.. But I suspect they would have even settled for less. I seem to remember TCF being slow to destroy a hauler of mine collecting my GSC's at a Safespot, apon evacuating Immensea about a year ago also.. I like to think it was because Maelstrom (My previous Alliance), also conducted ourselves with integrity. That Iteron III was fitted extensively with cargo expanders as it turned out.. Although there was very little of anything, E-honour or otherwise left to hold at the time Its a mistake you won't make in your next adventure in 0.0 right? -------------------------------
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.13 21:29:00 - [83] Originally by: Vile rat Did I hear somebody say fofofo? I think it is time to fofofo Nooo, don't! You'll lag out the forum and crash the servers!
Flax Volcanus Shadow Of The Light R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:01:00 - [84] Okay, okay. Although I don't know who that guy is, I did say "most." Originally by: Uuve Savisaalo Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 13/10/2007 19:57:52 Originally by: Flax Volcanus Yeah, most RISE members are at least high school graduates, so we tend to use actual words and semi-correct spellings. Originally by: Rhanger PLN just wanted people to know that was in this gang that Im really sry normally I dont care about what we loose as long as we get the job Im told to do done! Problem here I was miss informed and that really makes me sad.... even mad. I saw people dieing fighting like proud moffos for the job they where assigned to RESPECT TO U GUYS.But we where heavy outnumbered and outgunned and then I suddenly get told that the fleet op the whole CTA wasent that important - try get that one after have had to be a real jerk and be hard on the FLEET so we could keep our goal. I got some guys out managed to drag 20 hostiles just after me so they could enjoy killing me and hope my brave m8s - well some of em came out in one piece. I cant work be a FC for rise anymore and take my leave - not because we lost - prrff we gave em hell, but because being mistold - and therefore being the person that should be the big ass to get the job done - which I always gets done or else die hard trying. hope the best but one FC down . Rhanger PLN - dir former FC ..you were saying, flax?
Nytemaster Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.10.13 22:24:00 - [85] Those that don't bother reading history, even in Eve, are doomed to repeat it. BoB has it made and this is how it works. Take systems at opportune times Move in pets and charge large sums of money Ensure BoB space is surround by meatshields If pet space falls, acquire pet leadership pilots Brilliant, but sad for those who fall for it.
Trupplupagus AAA Boring Adventures	Posted - 2007.10.13 23:17:00 - [86] Originally by: Vile rat Did I hear somebody say fofofo? I think it is time to fofofo There has never been a better time!!
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:22:00 - [87] Well as you have hidden behind and alt, how are we supposed to know you are actually a rise member and not ( gasp?) a coalition alt doing the propoganda thing. Without the tag you could be anyone mate, sorry "Random Goon " - why dont you kick box me about it, after your dad has killed himself of course
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:24:00 - [88] Originally by: fire 59 Well as you have hidden behind and alt, how are we supposed to know you are actually a rise member and not ( gasp?) a coalition alt doing the propoganda thing. Without the tag you could be anyone mate, sorry Hey why don't you kickbox him about it, after your dad has killed himself?
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:31:00 - [89] Originally by: NO BRAKES Originally by: fire 59 Well as you have hidden behind and alt, how are we supposed to know you are actually a rise member and not ( gasp?) a coalition alt doing the propoganda thing. Without the tag you could be anyone mate, sorry Hey why don't you kickbox him about it, after your dad has killed himself? "insert witty one liner response here " , so there. "Random Goon " - why dont you kick box me about it, after your dad has killed himself of course
Calimor Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:33:00 - [90] Originally by: Flax Volcanus Okay, okay. Although I don't know who that guy is, I did say "most." Originally by: Uuve Savisaalo Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 13/10/2007 19:57:52 Originally by: Flax Volcanus Yeah, most RISE members are at least high school graduates, so we tend to use actual words and semi-correct spellings. Originally by: Rhanger PLN just wanted people to know that was in this gang that Im really sry normally I dont care about what we loose as long as we get the job Im told to do done! Problem here I was miss informed and that really makes me sad.... even mad. I saw people dieing fighting like proud moffos for the job they where assigned to RESPECT TO U GUYS.But we where heavy outnumbered and outgunned and then I suddenly get told that the fleet op the whole CTA wasent that important - try get that one after have had to be a real jerk and be hard on the FLEET so we could keep our goal. I got some guys out managed to drag 20 hostiles just after me so they could enjoy killing me and hope my brave m8s - well some of em came out in one piece. I cant work be a FC for rise anymore and take my leave - not because we lost - prrff we gave em hell, but because being mistold - and therefore being the person that should be the big ass to get the job done - which I always gets done or else die hard trying. hope the best but one FC down . Rhanger PLN - dir former FC ..you were saying, flax? Well that's a good step! Although you quoted Uuve and not me (my post had other examples) you have some guts to post back which is good, or how they would say, MAD PROPS blabla whatever. Now that you're in terms with the fact that your alliance has members that write like... people who are not high school graduates, I'm gonna paste the first thread I clicked in the SA Forums. In case you don't know that's where all goons are from. Keep in mind I didn't choose it, it was the first thread I clicked: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2652331 As you can see most people don't write like your ex-FC. They even capitalize characters like you and moi. Now, this is what happens to people who decide to write like, you know, not high school graduates (look for Nancy Drow) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?postid=334388895#post334388895 Or people who decide to write like a total dork, like you know, your ex-FC (look for Nemesii) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?postid=334384106#post334384106 I hope that this thread has given you some insight on the goons and made you understand that unlike your directors preach to make you underestimate us and thus lose pathetically, we're not complete idiots. Also I believe in Matrix and I think you're the One.

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