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Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.14 22:19:00 - [1] Shaddup fool. In the nicest possible way of course. And 50k Hp? You having a fecking laugh... ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.15 09:56:00 - [2] Originally by: lyrenna Originally by: Alfred Vongunn Maybe he was really fighting a Mummin and just throught it was a Rupture because of the hull? qft What does QFT mean? I know what it 'means' (i agree, basically) but not sure what the letters QFT stand for? After more than a year and a half playing eve i still don't know this lol! ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.15 10:17:00 - [3] Edited by: Drek Grapper on 15/10/2007 10:17:44 Originally by: Cpt Branko I believe it's Quoted For Truth. Ah the mystery is solved. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.15 12:34:00 - [4] Originally by: Boring name Originally by: MITSUK0 lol rigging T1 cruisers? They are desposable dps/support for small gangs and/or disposable "for the lulz" solo ships. Sure put T2 guns and the cheaper T2 mods on them but seriously, they are pretty low on the pvp food chain, if your gonna rig it buy a BC instead. If u cant rig it then u a noob If you use expensive rigs on any cruiser save a Stabber (falloff ftw) you are a fool. 'Nuff said really... ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.15 12:39:00 - [5] Originally by: Boring name Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name Originally by: MITSUK0 lol rigging T1 cruisers? They are desposable dps/support for small gangs and/or disposable "for the lulz" solo ships. Sure put T2 guns and the cheaper T2 mods on them but seriously, they are pretty low on the pvp food chain, if your gonna rig it buy a BC instead. If u cant rig it then u a noob If you use expensive rigs on any cruiser save a Stabber (falloff ftw) you are a fool. 'Nuff said really... Or you're not a noob and actually have some isk It's not about isk you fool it's about value for money! It seems you are the type of guy who would turn up at a Destruction Derby in Porsche 911 Turbo. Not very smart. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.15 13:01:00 - [6] Originally by: Boring name Another suggestion, make base powergrid 400? Why don't you start a buff the HAC thread...if your HAC can't beat a Rup maybe you need some help. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.16 18:25:00 - [7] Originally by: SK Rooster Originally by: Hannobaal It's not right because even with maxed out skills it is not remotely possible to do so, except maybe with some really expensive faction equipment. how wrong you are Linkage I think people are talking about realistic setups...you have no web, no mwd and no scram? ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 09:52:00 - [8] Originally by: Boring name Edited by: Boring name on 17/10/2007 08:50:02 Originally by: twit brent HP wasnt hard to get over 50k and over 400 dps of dmg using just tech II with tech 1 rigs. I would spend that much isk on a cruiser no problems if it led to killing HAC's. Nothing cooler than shaimng your enemy by killing their elite cruisers in tech 1 ships. These days its sao damn hard to get a 1vs1, dressing up a lone tech 1 cruiser seems like a damn good idea to get someone to actually engage u. Only post that makes sense here the guy told me his setup 4 220mm II 1 small nos 1 small neut 10mn mwd, web, warp disruptor 1600 plate, 2 Gyro, 1 DC II, 1 EANM II 3 trimarks think slave set too edit : think he was using ecm drones aswell Ok lets break this down - 1 x Rupture Hull 6mil Isk 4 x 220mm AC's 7.2mil Isk 1 x 1600m Plate about 1mil Isk 2 x Gyro 3.2mil Isk 1 x EANM 2.2mil Isk 1 x DCU2 2.3mil Isk 3 x Tri-Mark 40.6 MILLION ISK Ok so if we total this up we get a TOTAL COST of 62.5 Million ISk. Rofl...yeah well lets nerf the Rupture because it's overpowered. I doubt there are many people out there who would drop 62million Isk on bying and fitting a t1 cruiser. Considering the risk of getting ganked these days i would say that's pretty stoopid. But then again...it takes all types eh? ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:13:00 - [9] Originally by: Boring name How much does Hac's cost again? How much does a Battlecruiser cost again?? ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:15:00 - [10] Originally by: Nian Banks May I just say that I have just spent over 30m on a bellicose. Money doesn't mean diddly if your main aim is to have fun. Well your fun will last alot longer if you use your money wisely. But then again if you have piles of it i susppose it doesn't matter. Even when i do have piles of isk...i still spend it wisely. It's basic economics. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:30:00 - [11] Originally by: twit brent Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Nian Banks May I just say that I have just spent over 30m on a bellicose. Money doesn't mean diddly if your main aim is to have fun. Well your fun will last alot longer if you use your money wisely. But then again if you have piles of it i susppose it doesn't matter. Even when i do have piles of isk...i still spend it wisely. It's basic economics. Hmmm I will have infinite ammounts of fun in an ibis? but seriously i would have heaps more fun in the rupture as there is a much higher chance of actually being engaged by a HAC or something. Not to mention killing something with a tech 1 of the class. The point is that these guys are fitting a 6million isk t1 cruiser with 54million isk worth of kit. I use an unrigged Ruppi and have won all it's 1v1's with cruisers without any rigs...i have lost to gangs who ganked me where a 54hp armour buffer WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED. In other words..it's probably a bad idea and waste of isk to spend 60million isk on a t1 cruiser. It's not rocket science now is it? ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:32:00 - [12] Originally by: Boring name Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name How much does Hac's cost again? How much does a Battlecruiser cost again?? How versatile is the battlecruiser again? how many hac's is going to engage a battlecruiser again? how hard is it to run from blobs in a battlecruiser? how hard is it to tackle in a battlecruiser? how slow are battlecruisers? seriously, you can't compare them Are you for real? How slow is a plated 3 x trimarked Ruppi gonna be? ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:42:00 - [13] Originally by: Boring name Not very slower Edit : Around 1.4km/s? Well EFT tells me it's 1.1km/s with my skills and 1.3km/s with all LV5. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 10:52:00 - [14] Edited by: Drek Grapper on 17/10/2007 10:52:16 Originally by: Boring name Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name Not very slower Edit : Around 1.4km/s? Well EFT tells me it's 1.1km/s with my skills and 1.3km/s with all LV5. How fast does a plate thorax go? What's a plated Rax got to do with it? You were saying that a BC is not as fast and agile as a plated 3 trimarked Rupture which is plain bollox. An armour tanked Cane does about 1km/s with a trimark and a 1600mm plate. EFT tells me the Rup does 1.1lm/s...now call me stupid, but to me it doesn't look like a helluva big difference now does it? Anyway whatever...go throw your money away. You might own cruisers and the odd HAC (remember a HAC will prolly use rigs as well) but you will get pwned by the first gang who catches you. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 11:01:00 - [15] Originally by: Boring name Originally by: Drek Grapper Edited by: Drek Grapper on 17/10/2007 10:52:16 Originally by: Boring name Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Boring name Not very slower Edit : Around 1.4km/s? Well EFT tells me it's 1.1km/s with my skills and 1.3km/s with all LV5. How fast does a plate thorax go? What's a plated Rax got to do with it? You were saying that a BC is not as fast and agile as a plated 3 trimarked Rupture which is plain bollox. An armour tanked Cane does about 1km/s with a trimark and a 1600mm plate. EFT tells me the Rup does 1.1lm/s...now call me stupid, but to me it doesn't look like a helluva big difference now does it? Anyway whatever...go throw your money away. You might own cruisers and the odd HAC (remember a HAC will prolly use rigs as well) but you will get pwned by the first gang who catches you. I'm the one complaining about ruptures, not preaching you to use them or whatever Points being Rupture warps faster than a Hurricane Rupture has a better tackling ability Rupture is cheaper Hac's will engage your rupture Recons will engage your rupture other cruisers will engage your rupture battlecruisers will engage your rupture Your argument for nerfing shudder the Rupture is based on a SIXTY MILLION ISK SETUP THAT MAYBE 2% OF THE RUPTURE FLYING POPULATION OF EVE WOULD EVEN BOTHER FIT. I give up. Like i said before if you got pwned in your HAC by a Rupture start a buff the HACS thread. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 13:17:00 - [16] Originally by: Garmon Edited by: Garmon on 17/10/2007 12:33:53 My Rupture goes 1.2km/s with my skills, although I think it's 1.3km/s, but against a Hurricane, keeping inside faloff isn't really going to do much considering the Hurricane will be using Barrage M aswell, unless he is t1 fitted, I have faught some Hac's and one recon in the Rupture, the only solo loss to one of those I have came across is to a vagabond, who I did web down, although I messed up on my part (misclicked and went in the opposite direction to him), it has killed a Deimos and an Ishtar though, and an arazu (while I was engaging a thorax and tristan), I think they did stupid things, but in my opinion it was mainly due to the fact I was in a cruiser and they were in a Hac, It can be quite amusing, Edit: My friend and I, both in Ruptures engaged a Zealot and Curse that was Pretending to ransom eachother, the two Ruptures won, and also my friend has killed a Vagabond in his Rupture (I'm jelous of this one) I'm on a neutral side though, in my opinion the rigged Rupture isn't rubbish, but it does require a large investment to be that effective ( considering it's a cruiser ), but then again, even if not rigged etc., I think it can still kill some hac's 0/ Garm! We met in Amamake few weeks ago. Good fights you mention in your post. Yeah i agree with what you say here...but the point i have bee trying to make in this thread is that for most people it's not a financially viable option to fit 3 x trimarks on the Rup. And you even said yourself that it's risky and expensive and most HACs will own you. I do however find it quite an interesting idea and if i could bring myself to pay 60million to fit this ship in such a way i might even like to try it. But for now i think i'll stick to my unrigged cheapo Ruppi! ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 13:57:00 - [17] Originally by: Garmon o/ I remember you, and yea this is true, but you could argue that a large portion of Rupture pilots can't use/afford t2 equipment aswell, on top of that Hehe Garm it might even have been you who pwned the OP in his HAC!! I dont think he's posting with his main though so you prolly can't check. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.17 15:48:00 - [18] Originally by: Lisento Slaven Thread over. Topic is useless at this point since it has been established that people can drop money into something and make it awesome. On a side note -> Trimarks don't have anything other than an HP buff listed in their stats. How much do they effect a ships speed/dexterity? -10% to max base speed but this can be skilled down. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.18 11:02:00 - [19] Originally by: twit brent Wow missed it again. Did I ever say it could pwn all HAC's, or did I say it has a better chance of getting an engagement? Stop quoting me and spouting crap. So what you are saying is that you fit a 60million isk Rupture that doesn't own most HAC's just so you can get engagements from, well from HAC's.??? Mmm i see. Maybe this is why not many Rupture pilots throw 50million isk's worth of stuff on their ship eh? ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright

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