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NAGGAROK
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Posted - 2004.02.24 15:38:00 -
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Anyone ever why a Badger Mk. 2 is about 10x bigger than a Bantam, but it can't even fit 1 inside? The thing looks like it could fit 6 of 'em in there! I think that when a ship is repackaged, it should take up a fraction of space the whole thing does. After all, what takes up more space; a jumble of parts, or a fully-assembled starship? This would also solve the tug ideas too. Oh, and if you can't figure it out, I'm Caldari so I made the example with our ships.
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.02.24 16:01:00 -
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A badger is larger and therefore needs more propulsion. This requires more fuel/power, larger rockets and better control systems.
A larger ship also has a large crew to take pressure off the pilot. this crew needs sleeping quarters, mess halls, recreation, life support, etc...
As you can see, it is not as easy as a 10x size issue.
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Deros
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Posted - 2004.02.24 16:02:00 -
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from experience i know that an iteron V with 5x alpha cargo expanders can just about fit in a repackaged kestrel, 19k cargo space used out of 20 ;)
would be nice to be able to move other ships about easier
Deros
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Dirus
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Posted - 2004.02.24 16:14:00 -
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Another thing CCP said they would implement. When ships are unassembled, they would take less space so its easier to transport... Guess it got lost in the "to do" list. 
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NAGGAROK
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:28:00 -
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A badger is larger and therefore needs more propulsion. This requires more fuel/power, larger rockets and better control systems.
A larger ship also has a large crew to take pressure off the pilot. this crew needs sleeping quarters, mess halls, recreation, life support, etc...
As you can see, it is not as easy as a 10x size issue.
Ok, I don't know how anyone doesn't know this by now, but all ships in the game have just one pilot: you. And you're stuck inside that pod with the whole neural interface thing and that really don't take up that much room.
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.02.26 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Haratu on 26/02/2004 14:07:19
Edited by: Haratu on 26/02/2004 13:52:21
Edited by: Haratu on 26/02/2004 13:50:12
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Ok, I don't know how anyone doesn't know this by now, but all ships in the game have just one pilot: you. And you're stuck inside that pod with the whole neural interface thing and that really don't take up that much room.
Sorry to burst your bubble , but I am correct in the crew issue: I will refer to the web page version that was out during the beta phase. In that version was a few jpegs that had layouts of different ships with a listing of how many crew members there were. This also backs up the reasoning why one pilot in a capsule needs all those windows.
No need to apologise
EDIT: But it is true that the pilot is locked inside a capsule. I remember that some ships (such as rookie ships and some frigates) have no crew, only the pilot.
Here are the places to go:
For ship databases:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030402140517/eve-online.com/shipdatabase/
For an example, here is the punisher (note the crew of 3)
http://web.archive.org/web/20030402214349/eve-online.com/shipdatabase/amarr/af3/default.asp?pp=
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Lance60266
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Posted - 2004.02.26 14:51:00 -
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I agree with you Naggarok, You would think that at least one Bantam could be carried inside of a Badger if it was unassembled since you can very easily haul the minerals to make one many times over. IMO the unassembled ship should not take anymore cargo room than the raw materials used to make it. once its assembled it would be understandable since the dimensions of the ship may not be compatable with the cargo dimensions.
Regarding the crew issue. I think the idea of a single pod is just a way to make gameplay work. I have always thought of a battleship having hundreds of crew onboard to assist in operation of the ship. I guess in this new era of eve, the custom of the captain going down with the ship has been abolished and the reverse is now in effect. The captain rushes to the pod and the crew die fighting...
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NAGGAROK
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Posted - 2004.02.26 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Haratu on 26/02/2004 14:07:19
Edited by: Haratu on 26/02/2004 13:52:21
Edited by: Haratu on 26/02/2004 13:50:12
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Ok, I don't know how anyone doesn't know this by now, but all ships in the game have just one pilot: you. And you're stuck inside that pod with the whole neural interface thing and that really don't take up that much room.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am correct in the crew issue: I will refer to the web page version that was out during the beta phase. In that version was a few jpegs that had layouts of different ships with a listing of how many crew members there were. This also backs up the reasoning why one pilot in a capsule needs all those windows.
No need to apologise
Exactly. That's why it was called beta. It's not the game we're playing now, it was only testing to see what would be easier to explain.
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.02.27 01:55:00 -
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Exactly. That's why it was called beta. It's not the game we're playing now, it was only testing to see what would be easier to explain.
You are definately stubborn... let me quote from my own post before:
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This also backs up the reasoning why one pilot in a capsule needs all those windows.
All the big ships have lots of windows while the little ships have none or very few... this is related to the crew size.
Another point you might be interested in is that when you are carrying passengers... where do they get their life support from?
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
NAGGAROK
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Posted - 2004.02.27 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: NAGGAROK on 27/02/2004 14:54:48
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You are definately stubborn...
Yes I am
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Another point you might be interested in is that when you are carrying passengers... where do they get their life support from?
They're cyrogenically frozen for their protection. They get sustenance from their cryo capsules.
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Dante Chusuk
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Posted - 2004.02.27 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Dante Chusuk on 27/02/2004 15:34:26
Edited by: Dante Chusuk on 27/02/2004 15:33:44
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Exactly. That's why it was called beta. It's not the game we're playing now, it was only testing to see what would be easier to explain.
[cough] Eve Short Stories [cough] Everyone should read (I think) The Jovian Wet Grave about the Jovians providing pod technology where they say smaller shoips would only need the pilot and bigger ships would only need a fraction of the crew ... to me fraction means some not none
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