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Ivy Lynneleo	Posted - 2007.10.21 19:39:00 - [1] Edited by: Ivy Lynneleo on 21/10/2007 19:39:30 Hi I was thinking about a neutron setup for my pvp mega, but I still wonder if I should go for the plates or for the dual-repper config? I'd really go for the plates in 1v1 situations, but do you reckon this would still be ok when facing gangs? My current low-slots setup: 2 x 1600mm II 1 x DCU II 2 x EANM II 2 x MFS II I¦ve got over 24k armor with rigs. This also means no CCC there (thinking about the reppers..) I know there is no best solution here, both (reppers/plates) are viable, and my taste tends to go for the plates because of the nice HP bonus. However the reason why I'm asking is that I¦m going to do escorts in small gang, which means not so many 1v1 fights. So what do you think? Thanks by advance.
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2007.10.21 19:56:00 - [2] use a domi, that way you get drone bonus and can just newt with high slots. ------------- fixed for greater eve content
Julius Romanus Amarr Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2007.10.21 20:06:00 - [3] Originally by: Ivy Lynneleo Edited by: Ivy Lynneleo on 21/10/2007 19:39:30 Hi I was thinking about a neutron setup for my pvp mega, but I still wonder if I should go for the plates or for the dual-repper config? I'd really go for the plates in 1v1 situations, but do you reckon this would still be ok when facing gangs? My current low-slots setup: 2 x 1600mm II 1 x DCU II 2 x EANM II 2 x MFS II I¦ve got over 24k armor with rigs. This also means no CCC there (thinking about the reppers..) I know there is no best solution here, both (reppers/plates) are viable, and my taste tends to go for the plates because of the nice HP bonus. However the reason why I'm asking is that I¦m going to do escorts in small gang, which means not so many 1v1 fights. So what do you think? Thanks by advance. Looks solid to me. -- All these graphs show is how bad the apocalypse is with different kinds of weapons. -Dr Jigglez
leo667	Posted - 2007.10.21 20:18:00 - [4] Hmm thats pretty much the cookie cutter set up tbh, though i have to ask how do you fit 2 eanm's t2 in the lows as well or are you not fitting web, scram, Cap booster & MWD??
Ivy Lynneleo	Posted - 2007.10.21 20:20:00 - [5] Originally by: leo667 Hmm thats pretty much the cookie cutter set up tbh, though i have to ask how do you fit 2 eanm's t2 in the lows as well or are you not fitting web, scram, Cap booster & MWD?? Quick answer: my cap booster is of medium size.
Ivy Lynneleo	Posted - 2007.10.22 10:03:00 - [6] Edited by: Ivy Lynneleo on 22/10/2007 10:03:12 Also, it may show that I don't need to fit any warp scrambler due to our gang strategy. So would ECM be the way to go or would my ship have a better use of this free mid-slot? I was thinking of an omnidirectional tracking link maybe.
Katrina Coreli toxicology	Posted - 2007.10.22 10:15:00 - [7] Edited by: Katrina Coreli on 22/10/2007 10:22:29 Edited by: Katrina Coreli on 22/10/2007 10:18:05 Originally by: Lithalnas use a domi, that way you get drone bonus and can just newt with high slots. Thats what i thought he ment but hes talking about neutron blasters. And that setup is very solid Personally id take off the DCU and put in annother MFS as the DCU is going to be of limited use imho. Either your going to be remote repped by an ally or if your solo inwhich case i think the additional Dps is going to be preferable to a little bit of survivability but it is a matter of preference. -=EDIT=- If youve only got 1 mid slot 1 ECM is not going to be worth it. I would probably fit a sensor booster or if you wanted to fit EWAR to help out your gang your best bet might be a tracking disruptor? Prehaps you could make up for this deficiency by not using heavy drones in your bay and fielding some ECM drones which are damned useful (though prehaps not so much if you are already in an EWAR heavy gang) THE CAKE IS A LIE!
Rudy Metallo Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.22 10:22:00 - [8] Originally by: Ivy Lynneleo Edited by: Ivy Lynneleo on 22/10/2007 10:03:12 Also, it may show that I don't need to fit any warp scrambler due to our gang strategy. So would ECM be the way to go or would my ship have a better use of this free mid-slot? I was thinking of an omnidirectional tracking link maybe. If you dont need to fit a scram, I'd go with a sensor booster. Damps are EWAR of choice these days and it's always nice to get a first lock on a celestis close up with your guns activated. Can you say two volley death? -- We are the revolutionaries. We are the usurpers of the heavenly throne. We are the enemies of the Gods.
Ivy Lynneleo	Posted - 2007.10.22 10:47:00 - [9] I was planning to carry 5 Ogres I rather than EW drones, due to my drone skills (~3.6 Mil). I take a note about sensor boosters and tracking disruptors, I¦ll consider it. What about target painters?
Doktor Soet Excidium.	Posted - 2007.10.22 10:56:00 - [10] o/ ivy well i was playing with some setups too and came to a very similar result. the idea is that a smal gang uses rem rep drones on eachother while dealing out as much dmg as possible. i came up with this: 7x neuts 1x med nos 1x quad lif mwd 1x x5 prototype web 1x sensor booster t2 1x med electrochemical cap booster my lows look a bit different. i wanted to close the explosion hole in my armor 3x 1600 rolled thugsten 2x energized adaptive 1x energized reactive 1x mfs well only 1 mfs may look a bit strange and perhaps i`ll switch the reactive plating for a second mfs or a dmg control when this baby undocks the first time. we`ll see. gives me 24k armor without rigs, good looking resis and quiet some dmg. You signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Ivy Lynneleo	Posted - 2007.10.22 11:10:00 - [11] Thanks for the replies I¦m a bit reluctant to drop off my DCU, it¦s one stacked nerf MFS against 100% more hull before I die...
Melor Rend	Posted - 2007.10.22 11:11:00 - [12] I seem to remember someone calculating the average "worth" of a LAR VS. a 1600mm Plate and I think in engaments under 55 seconds the plates are far better. Only in longer fights does the LAR outperform the Plate. I personally either fly a plate mega or a gankmega with nearly zero tank (ie. EANM + DCU).
Neo Rainhart Caldari Leela's Lamas	Posted - 2007.10.22 12:43:00 - [13] Edited by: Neo Rainhart on 22/10/2007 12:45:25 3 x MFS II, 1 x eanm II, 1x IFFA and 2 1600mm plates or youre better off flying an ion setup or hype..my 2 cents Edit: And dont forget the trimarks ♥♥♥
Katrina Coreli toxicology	Posted - 2007.10.22 14:49:00 - [14] Originally by: Ivy Lynneleo I was planning to carry 5 Ogres I rather than EW drones, due to my drone skills (~3.6 Mil). I take a note about sensor boosters and tracking disruptors, I¦ll consider it. What about target painters? Target painters will be moderatly useful in certain circumstances. Its all down to what you expect to fight and who you are going to fly with. A sensor booster is pretty much going to be universally useful regardless of your gang or your opponents. A tracking disruptor is going to be very useful against turret boats which do comprise the majority of things you will meet in pvp so it will still be useful A target painter is only going to be useful if you have missile boats in your gang. If you had a Raven in your gang a target painter may be tempting. A sensor damp is not going to be at all useful at the sub 20km ranges which you are undoubtably going to want to fight at unless you wanted to remove an enemy craft working at range. This could be very usful, manys the time in small gang combat when you get embroiled in a fight and an enemy Rook or Arazu comes in at 80km or so. Usually their EWAR would be concentrated on your EWAR boats to tip the scales in their direction so a sensor damp on a gank mega could be useful in certain circumstances. However my choice would still be the sensor booster or tracking disruptor. THE CAKE IS A LIE!
Making stuff	Posted - 2007.10.22 16:40:00 - [15] 7x neuts 1x mwd 1x point 1x web 1x cap injector 1x dcu 2x eanm 2x mag stab 2x 1600 3x trimark haven't playing around with this in a while, dont know if it will fit with cpu, etc. Lots of tank.. the idea is you gank them before they get you.
Katrina Coreli toxicology	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:19:00 - [16] Originally by: Making stuff 7x neuts 1x mwd 1x point 1x web 1x cap injector 1x dcu 2x eanm 2x mag stab 2x 1600 3x trimark haven't playing around with this in a while, dont know if it will fit with cpu, etc. Lots of tank.. the idea is you gank them before they get you. It fits with a med injector, its pretty much the cookie cutter setup THE CAKE IS A LIE!
Ivy Lynneleo	Posted - 2007.10.22 18:55:00 - [17] Originally by: Making stuff 7x neuts 1x mwd 1x point 1x web 1x cap injector 1x dcu 2x eanm 2x mag stab 2x 1600 3x trimark This is what I have, except I fitted an Anti-Explosive rig instead of a third Trimark.

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