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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.25 10:28:00 -
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Last autumn CCP Fallout introduced a weekly section where EVE Online veterans could share their own experiences on a certain topic with the new citizens of New Eden. We decided it is time to bring it back, so please welcome: the New Player Advice 2012! It is going to be published on a bi-weekly basis and cover a wide range of questions most commonly asked by the new players. Everyone is welcome to pitch in and contribute their own answers and advice, but please do so in a civil and friendly manner.
So you finally decided to give EVE Online a try. The game client is downloaded and installed; you have already found the EVElopedia and the ISK Guide; a friend gave you a few useful tipsGǪ and yet after logging into the game you feel completely overwhelmed.
How did you survive your first month in EVE Online? Did you have a plan, or did you just start doing things at random? Did you try to explore as many different areas of the game as possible, or selected a career and stuck to it? Which piece of information was the most helpful to you during your first days in the game?
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator
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Fraa Bjorn
Cell 317
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Posted - 2012.01.25 10:39:00 -
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I was afraid of jumping out of the newbie system, for fear of getting lost. =)
One of my first advice was: Buy the cheapest you can, even if you have to travel 3 jumps to pick it up. And use your asset-window to set autopilot direction to where you keep your stuff.
All games have QQ, but only Eve has Q.Q |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
158
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Posted - 2012.01.25 10:56:00 -
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Fraa Bjorn wrote:I was afraid of jumping out of the newbie system, for fear of getting lost. =)
One of my first advice was: Buy the cheapest you can, even if you have to travel 3 jumps to pick it up. And use your asset-window to set autopilot direction to where you keep your stuff.
This is really good advice.
I actually still use several of them. |
Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
612
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Posted - 2012.01.25 10:57:00 -
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Stay in the starter system until you have had PLENTY of time to get used to all the tutorials and everything involved. The starter system has a special ruleset that protects newer players from some of the harsher realities of EVE before they are ready. Straying from that and being ganked or affected can leave a bad experience and a bad first impression of what is actually an extremely detailed game. Unless you have a friend helping you out. Take things SLOWLY. |
Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.01.25 11:33:00 -
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I'm building up a bundle of guides to help new players get into EVE, I just started this a few days ago and I'll keep adding more (and editing) the whole time. Link is in my signature, if someone has questions or ideas feel free to contact me.
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |
Revara Ormand
Bowl Of Petunias
0
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Posted - 2012.01.25 15:36:00 -
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as said before take your time to do the tutorial missions.
make out your goal in eve and start working towards it.
join a corporation to learn you stuff and help fitting your ship.
after the tutorials and you are able to fly a very well fitted frigate or cruiser do the sisters of eve epic arc missions.
This will help a lot and give you a nice boost of standing and isk in the end. |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
378
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Posted - 2012.01.25 16:13:00 -
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Stay out of Amamake and Rancer.
Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Dark Matter Coalition
828
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Posted - 2012.01.25 16:31:00 -
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ALWAYS use the "View Details" button to see the individual Buy and Sell orders of an item.
And also set your market up like this so you can see all the items (whether or not they're available, at least you'll know they exist) and to avoid ever buying stuff in lowsec.
http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l338/Xenoninja42/20110410204009.jpg
The Drake is a Lie |
Kusanagi Kasuga
Ferocious Felines
9
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Posted - 2012.01.25 16:59:00 -
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1) Join a corp. Doesn't matter that much which, but joining any corp will help you have more fun.
If you don't know which to join, join EVE University.
2) There is no such thing as a corp-joining deposit for GoonSwarm. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
34
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Posted - 2012.01.25 17:14:00 -
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First you need to find out what you want to do the most in Eve. Do you want to fight in spaceships? Do you want to mine minerals and sell on the market? Do you want to haul goods around for other players?
Once you decide what you want to be, the best thing to do next is to join a corporation which offers what you are looking for. There are a ton of corporations looking for eager new players to help train and the experience and knowledge you get is invaluable
On holiday. -áIn some other world.
Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours.
To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á
It was a sun |
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
101
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Posted - 2012.01.25 17:45:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:How did you survive your first month in EVE Online? Did you have a plan, or did you just start doing things at random? Did you try to explore as many different areas of the game as possible, or selected a career and stuck to it? Which piece of information was the most helpful to you during your first days in the game?
I started with a few friends, which quickly dwindled to only two of us playing. I forget exactly what my first few days were like but I remember I chose combat in a broad sense as the direction I wanted to take. Me and that friend joined a small startup corp a few days in with guys we were chatting with in local. They were a pirate corp, not that we did much pirating, but the corp part really helped me stick with it I think.
I don't remember a single most helpful piece of information (other than the corp itself, new players, get involved in one), but after recently helping a friend he thought the most useful thing was me helping him setup is UI. By helping I of course mean copying all of my settings to his machine so he had exactly the same UI and overview as me. Everyone's UI and overview are different, but if you can get someone that's been playing for a few years then most of that stuff is just the details, the broad picture is that it's years of getting it setup to be efficient. It really helps. |
gfldex
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Posted - 2012.01.25 21:51:00 -
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A long long time ago I had my first month in EVE. After doing the fairly brief tutorials I fired up the market and studied what kind of stuff was there to figure out what I want. After I knew what I wanted I started to look for a corp on various forums.
Since back then there was no way to tell if one was still on his trial I had to wait another week or so before I could join the corp with the best spelling in it's recruitment post. If I had known about killboards, I would have looked there. (Little hind, try not to join the pray.)
I ended up in the middle of one of the biggest wars EVE ever had. It was a requirement to learn to survive. The safety of highsec would not have helped me to learn what the game is about. (Little hind, it is not who got the most faction mods.)
There was a lot of fun to had and I met players I stuck with for the next few years. The fun you will have in EVE heavyly depends on the corp you are in. Make a good pick.
More gameplay, less waitplay! Down with AFK-Cloaking! Down with AFK-Alliances! Down with AFK-Mining!
In contrast to general believe, interfaces to computer systems are not meant to be distractive. |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
91
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Posted - 2012.01.25 22:04:00 -
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When I started I already had in mind what I wanted to do, which was Industry (puts on his carebear flaming tank). I found a nice corporation to join and they thought me a lot of the basic stuff around EVE *yet not everything*.
Once that corp got wardecced (how the hell would I know about wardecs and overview icons) I lost a dozen of ships cause war targets camped my station out of which I kept undocking. After I believe the 8th ship 1 of them opened convo and explained how war / PvP rules worked in EVE and even refunded my lost ships + some extra cash.
I felt a bit down by this war mechanics etc and decided to get back in NPC corps for now, started building up but became bored again of that corp. One day I was mining in high-sec when a (at that time) massive mining fleet rolled in with me in the belt. Did a check on them and actually joined them not long after that. Stayed there for a while before trying multiple things out, shortly after I was 1 year old, I took the leap of faith into null-sec and I love it.
My advice for the new guys on their first month:
1.) Take your time, you are new. So did the older toons in EVE, they went to everything you are going through at this stage.
2.) Ask questions when you don't know something. There is only 1 stupid question, that is the question you didn't ask.
3.) When flying around and lost, open assets to see where your stuff is. Right click the station that it's in and set destination. All you now have to do is follow the yellow bricked road (aka the yellow coloured stargates).
4.) Most important IMO: Have fun and do what you like to do, after all EVE is a game and you pay for it. So you should have fun playing it.
Also, finding a nice corp that you like and does the things you do is a nice addition to EVE, after all it's a MMO. But keep in mind research a corp before you join, see how they are, what they do and also how active they are at the times you play.
p.s. If a new player ever needs advice on questions or how to research a corp, just open a converstation when I'm on or shoot me an EVEmail.
EDIT:
I just remember I have some more advice:
5.) When in doubt what a module does, or what kind of ship you are buying, right click it and select show info. the show info (description, attributes, prerequirements) will show you all the information you need, from what the module does, what bonuses the ship gets and which skills it takes. Lately I told a 'older' pilot in my corp the same in a less nice way: "Click the ****ing show info button".
And then there are the 3 golden rules in EVE:
1.) Don't fly what you can't afford to loose. (any ship you fly can be shot down by others, even in high-sec. So if you fly around, your wallet should be able to buy at least another of that particular ship.)
2.) Don't trust anybody you don't know in real life. (EVE is a very harsh world, as soon as you fly out of the starting-system you will eventually find out. Scamming and lots of forms of grieving are allowed, so trust is something that has to be earned in EVE and not given to just anyone.)
3.) If it sounds to good to be true, it is. (Like real life, nothing comes without a price. If you see something that sounds like a really really good offer, look closely at it as it is likely a scam. On contracts / trades, always double (or tripple) check what you are buying (show info *yes here it is again* on the items) and for how much you are buying it. (1,000,000.00 looks very similar as 100,000,000.00 when you don't pay attention)
Kind regards, fly safe and hope you have a good time in EVE,
J'Poll
J'Poll
Recruiter - Imperial Legi0n
As a finishing touch, God created the Dutch |
Roxwar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.01.25 22:50:00 -
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Stay out of lowsec until your ready to lose ships and not be put off by it.
Especially stay away from flashy reds in lowsec camping gates in tornado's and thrashers 
I'm still new here too, but get stuck in and make friends if possible, dont abuse people in local if you do happen to lose a ship, it will only make them go out their way to do it again.
Find out what it is you want to do and make a plan for it. It will give your playtime a meaning.
Dont be afraid to ask questions in rookie chat or local, most will see your new and help, others, not so much.
HAVE FUN!! <-- Most inportant aspect
I cant vouch for this one personally as im still in an NPC corp, but i keep getting to told to find a player corp to help stave off the boredom of solo flying ( i can see where they're coming from at the moment with that advice )
But, dont jump into the first corp that accepts you,do a little homework first. Nothing worse than seeing a 12month old player who's been in 20 corps already lol
http://roxwar.blogspot.com/ |
Dyaven
36
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Posted - 2012.01.26 02:16:00 -
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I remember going into lowsec for the first time in a Vexor and shooting a hauler on a gate. That was the day I learned of the existance of gate guns. |
Kata Amentis
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
27
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Posted - 2012.01.26 13:25:00 -
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In eve dying carries a lot of stigma for many people to start with. It is also one of the best learning experiences, and it's the cheapest when you're new.
So at some point in the first few weeks, make the decision to give it a go;
- upgrade your clone to cover your sp amount, set the station to somewhere local to your stuff.
- get a couple of cheap ships (frigates are great).
- fit them (web search or ask someone for a fit).
- insure them (you're going to die, that's the point, might as well limit the isk lost right?).
- find your nearest low sec system (or ask a local).
- go find someone to shoot at (freebie: try to avoid doing this at a gate, dying by gate guns doesn't help here).
- Get popped, and most likely podded.
The idea here isn't to "win", it's to give it a go and die in the process.
Realize that is wasn't that bad, and if you've been asking people for advice you just interacted with 3+ people you'd never met before... and it was your choice to go do it: that's much better than waiting to be someone's victim, and in eve unless you hide in a station your entire time you'll be shot at by someone at some point.
Now go back to the people you chatted to, or some new people and share what you did, and see if you can learn from it. If you liked it, give it another go tomorrow/next week/whenever you decide to next time.
Even if it turns out you don't like pvp combat, at least you'll know, rather than fear it as an unknown. If you really did like it, time to look for some corp where you can be a hero tackler frigate... no one ever has enough of them.
More general advice: try not to take things, or yourself too seriously. Have fun and give things a go, when you get stuck, ask people (note plural, always best to check rather than take one person's word for it). |
Kata Amentis
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
27
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Posted - 2012.01.26 13:33:00 -
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oh, and before you hit "post" or "preview" on the forums... do a ctrl+a ctrl+c... then when the forum eats you post you can just paste it back in and push the button again...
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Drez Ledaza
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.26 20:08:00 -
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I am not a month old yet, but i am having fun doing 2 things mostly....
Firstly, low sec roams in my Rifter just ratting and salvaging, or stealing loot!! Burning my d-scan out like mad but a good rush.
Secondly in high sec. I watched a great youtube vid and now have a Probe with expanded probe launcher and a Vigil with salvagers and speed boosts. I join Drakes and Navy Ravens doing their missions, and help them with their recycling. This pays for my Rifter roams.
Amamake is one bad place, i found out last night :(
My advice is watch corp (NPC in my case) chat and if anyone mentions something that sounds appealing, go to google and youtube and check it out. |
Robby Altair
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.26 21:42:00 -
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How do you survive your first month in EVE Online? My advice. Read the patch feedback and issues forums.
Examples:
EVE Online: Crucible 1.1 Feedback
EVE Online: Crucible 1.1 Issues
Now go fly your rookie ships into 0.0 space. So what your character loses a free ship and gets a new free clone. It's free.
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Iskawa Zebrut
Smoke to Train - Train to Smoke
3
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Posted - 2012.01.27 11:21:00 -
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You just have to go... a little crazy. And then, suddenly, it all makes sense, and everything you do turns to gold. |
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Baneken
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric
The Polaris Syndicate
74
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Posted - 2012.01.27 11:59:00 -
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I have IRL friend who invited me to the game and his corp.
The bastard left the game only about a month after that but I stayed, this was 4 years ago.
I re-invited my friend when incarna hit the servers but he didn't stay much longer this time either so I guess EVE just ins't a game for him and I've let it a rest but who knows, when the DUST finally settles maybe hell come back to EVE again. :P |
Kata Amentis
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
28
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Posted - 2012.01.27 12:35:00 -
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Drez Ledaza wrote:
Amamake is one bad place, i found out last night :(
Add Rancer to that too... |
Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction
Happy Endings
50
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Posted - 2012.01.29 19:29:00 -
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I started playing EvE quite some time ago (and have taken two breaks in that time period).
A few years back I wrote my noob experiences, which are here. I've never been one for tutorials; from that perspective I don't think there'd be a big difference between then and now (though I certainly wouldn't get into mining knowing what I do now)
I've long since returned from our doomed Venal expedition, quit that corp, got into FW on the Gallente side back when it was shiny and new, joined Atlas and moved out to Omist. Atlas was horrible, quit and moved to someplace near Amamake.
PvP'd there for a while, moved into a C3 wormhole with a static lowsec link. Unsubbed when I went back to college, came back after about 18 months away, joined my current corp and moved out to Stain.
I was in the top 100 on Battleclinic for a while, but my long absence pushed me down a lot. But, I've managed to regain a top 1000 standing since I returned.
Personally, I think the number one most important thing EvE has always had going for it is that is not WoW, doesn't want to be WoW, and doesn't try to be WoW. Since 2004 we've witnessed a parade of expensive (and failed by their own standards) WoW clones. Through it all EvE has managed to endure, mostly thrive even though CCPs colossally screws something up every few years, and maintain a measure of mainstream awareness in the larger MMO community.
My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |
Agromos nulKaedi
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.02.03 06:48:00 -
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I didn't do this but it comes over rookie help ALL the time...
Do not refuse, delay, or otherwise tell ANY of your tutorial agents anything vaguely resembling 'NO' in any way, shape, or form, ever. at most, close the window.
Every hour or two someone is worried because one of the tutorial agents won't talk to them any more. This should not be anything that the new player can inflict on themself, but they do it all the time. |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
69
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Posted - 2012.02.03 17:26:00 -
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If you are reading this it means you use the forums where any questions you might have will be answered (and most likely already have).
Congratulations, your survivability in Eve is now 1000% higher than those who don-¦t read the forums.
Unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Nate Nichols
GWA Corp
1
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Posted - 2012.02.05 18:03:00 -
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Where do you start the Sisters of Eve arc? |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
98
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Posted - 2012.02.05 18:56:00 -
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Nate Nichols wrote:Where do you start the Sisters of Eve arc?
Arnon IX - Moon 3 - Sisters of EVE Bureau
J'Poll
Recruiter - Imperial Legi0n
As a finishing touch, God created the Dutch |
Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2012.02.05 22:02:00 -
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- This has been said before but needs repeating: Do not fly anything you cannot afford to lose. Always have a spare ship or enough isk to replace it. You will lose ships sooner or later. No exceptions. When a ship is destroyed it's gone - you need to buy a new one.
- Likewise don't stuff too much valuables in your cargo hold. You can get suicide ganked even in high sec if your loot is more valuable than the ganker's ship.
- Do not sell your old ship to get a new one. Should your new shiny ship go boom, it's noobship time again.
- All ships are good only in specific areas. There is no one best ship. Just because you have that awesome battleship you just learned to fly doesn't mean that you can wade through swarms of frigates and cruisers at will.
- Ask if you don't understand something. Even the veterans do not know everything. If someone ridicules you for it... well, tells a lot about that person.
- Before jumping head first into something, read about it in evelopedia, forums or google. This increases your efficiency and chance of survival by a good margin.
- Just because you can join a corp right away doesn't mean you should. If you happen to meet some nice people or you know them from elsewhere, then sure, but otherwise learn the basics while in your noobcorp. NPC corps cannot be wardecked and that makes them good for learning at your own pace. Also do a quick search about the corp you are about to join and hang in the chat with them beforehand if possible.
- Always double-check everything. Scams are common and even encouraged. Don't give stuff outside your control either if you cannot afford lose them.
- Don't take items from yellow containers. This will give the owner and his corp a permision to destroy your ship. |
Shi'on Uzuki
Geminous inc
Payment Required
1
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Posted - 2012.02.07 06:59:00 -
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Quote:Last autumn CCP Fallout introduced a weekly section where EVE Online veterans could share their own experiences on a certain topic with the new citizens of New Eden. We decided it is time to bring it back, so please welcome: the New Player Advice 2012! It is going to be published on a bi-weekly basis and cover a wide range of questions most commonly asked by the new players. Everyone is welcome to pitch in and contribute their own answers and advice, but please do so in a civil and friendly manner.
So you finally decided to give EVE Online a try. The game client is downloaded and installed; you have already found the EVElopedia and the ISK Guide; a friend gave you a few useful tipsGǪ and yet after logging into the game you feel completely overwhelmed.
How did you survive your first month in EVE Online? Did you have a plan, or did you just start doing things at random? Did you try to explore as many different areas of the game as possible, or selected a career and stuck to it? Which piece of information was the most helpful to you during your first days in the game?
Well let's see..... my first run at EVE was rather interesting. I was a Caldari pilot, much like I am now, and I somehow managed to get in with a mining corp. I ran SOME of my tutorial missions because I didn't... really... know what the point was. I couldn't go on mining ops because I could only fly a frig. I thought it was a lot like Star Trek so I wanted to fit 'phasers' on my really cool looking ship, the Merlin. When I did that and then put an afterburner on the ship so I could fly across the belt in mere seconds like a cool person, I proceeded to shoot anything in sight. My corp mates laughed it off because it was harmless as long as I shot them. Until I shot someone else and got Concorded.
I didn't touch the game for two years after that. |
Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
107
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Posted - 2012.02.09 17:28:00 -
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Getting into Manufacturing early on can save you lots of ISK in Ammo. If you can build ammo out of Drone Compounds and reprocessed modules, you don't need to buy ammo.
No matter what kind of corp you get into, they can always use an industrial wing. Even PVP-Corps need to get their ships from somewhere, and having an insider who can build ships for them can be handy when the prices for ships start to sky-rocket.
In my opinion, everyone should try flying in low-sec at least once. I know I was reluctant about entering low-sec at first, but when you've been there long enough, you start to learn how to avoid getting ganked. Trust me. I don't know how many times my D-Scan has saved my ship. Besides, saying you don't like being in low-sec without having tried it is like saying you don't like some food without having tried it. You can only base your opinions on what you've read, not what you've seen. On a side note, if you know how to avoid getting ganked, low-sec is a lot safer than those silly high-sec Mission-Hubs. |
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