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ZURAN 666
M34t p0p s1ckle Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.10.22 10:07:00 -
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Ok I have been in game for quite some time and for some reason I am missing something really stupid and simple. I have flown with people using missiles getting over 500 points of damage with a heavy missile and close to 1000 with cruise. I am not getting anywhere near that. With cruise I am averaging about 500 - 600 on a good hit and with heavy hitting for around 260. I have the following skills.
Cruise specialized 4
Cruise missile 5
Guided missile precision 4
Heavy missiles 4
Missile Bombardment 5
Missile Launcher Operation 5
Missile Projection 5
Rapid Launch 5
Target Navigation Prediction 5
Warhead Upgrades 5
I usually use 2 BC's on the low slots for the ships. My DPS is horrible compared to my skills. There is something that I am either doing wrong setup wise or missile wise. I have tried various warhead types with not much variance. I usually fly either a Drake or a Raven sometimes a Manticore.
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Greenwing
SuX ltd.
Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.10.22 10:33:00 -
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Do you use the correct damage type and is the damage you are comparing done to the same ship and same hitpoint type (shield/armor/hull) ? 1000 seems a bit high for hits against tanked shields/armor.
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Mona X
Caldari
C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.10.22 10:52:00 -
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How about usual things:
- maybe you're using wrong missiles, like torpedoes against ceptor?
- maybe they're using right ammo for the job, like precision missiles against small targets?
- or maybe they're using better (faction) ammo?
- how about their ships? Any bonuses to damage?
- maybe their targets were webbed/painted?
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.10.22 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuma Saruwatari on 22/10/2007 13:51:22
A quick look at EFT points to a likely reason why you're hearing DPS values that high: They're too high even with maxed skills.
Unless they've got dedicated implants, or are fielding too many BCU's in the lows, I doubt they can get that high.
Or, are you referring to alpha, which is damage per salvo. In that case, its quite possible. alpha damage though, is not the same as damage-per-hit.
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ZURAN 666
M34t p0p s1ckle Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.10.22 13:58:00 -
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I am not sure about the implants side of things or the number of bcu's. I know I have better skills and that it was the same ship against another ship of the same type. The only thing I don't know is if they were using faction ammo or not. They pasted the log showing they were doing that much in gang chat. Are my average numbers low, or pretty much par for course?
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J Valkor
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.10.22 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: J Valkor on 22/10/2007 14:43:03
500 dmg a heavy? No, that is not happening.
Just looking at my skills,
A base Caldari scourge missile does 172 damage.
172*1.25(CS 5 in a Nighthawk)*1.25(Heavy Missile 5)*1.08(Warhead Upgrades 4)*1.1*1.086*1.056(3 BCU 2's) = 366 dmg per missile
I don't think that can go as high as 500 dmg per missile. Even with officer BCU's and a 5% implant. Your corp mates might be saying they get 500 DPS with their heavy missiles, which is reasonable. If they claim to have copy pasted and their heavies are doing 500 dmg a hit it is probably them just changing the text.
Actually, I take that back. If they are using Dread Gurista heavy missiles in a ship that has a 25% bonus to missile damage, and they fit officer BCUs in their lows, 500 dmg may be achievable. Also, a 5% damage implant and perfect skills. Which, if you are pveing with them, might not be unreasonable.
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Oprahh
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Posted - 2007.10.23 12:22:00 -
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I doubt that cruises hit anything for almost 1000. I have good torp skills, torp implants, and I use 4xCN BCUs. My biggest hit on anything is around 950.
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SuperflytroniX
Caldari
Mobile Alcohol Processing Units
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:24:00 -
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 Originally by: ZURAN 666
With cruise I am averaging about 500 - 600 on a good hit and with heavy hitting for around 260.
Thats really not bad, in my CNR with Torps i'm getting 800 structural and 400 resisted on BS with standard torps - faction ammo added about 100/50 and thats BS 3, Torps 3 with 3 CN BCU and no Torp hardwire.
I'd be more concerned with DPS than how much you are hitting for with 1 hit.
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Lagerstars
Caldari
Independent Operations
Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:33:00 -
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As already stated, those figure by the OP are well out and are BS. No heavy missiles or cruise will hit that hard
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