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dookagalla
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.10.23 22:06:00 -
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ok guys its clear that carriers are becomming the new battleship of 0.0 and yes i think aswell that its a bad thing that that happands... but i also dont agree with this heavy over the top nerf.
there is a better way of doing the same nerf without it beeing so horrible.
this is how I would nerf carriers.
the carrier/ms own its own would still be limited to 5 drones/fighters
however when the carrier is in gang he uses the unused drone bandwith of gangmembers that are ON grid with the carrier/ms (carrier/ms has to be in a gang leader position)
that way a carrier/ms is able to field more then his standard max 5 fighters/drones and directly controll them but it would still be limited to the skills the carrier pilot has for controlling drones/fighters.
This way a to get a carrier to its full potential it has to get a nice support fleet going around it. this would also nerf the mothership low sec camping since you would need a support fleet to field more then 5 fighters
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Yamichi Wiggin
Caldari
Rising Knights
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.23 22:46:00 -
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I hate this. Not your post. Your post is mostly good stuff. I actually think that it's a very elegant solution to the issue.
What I hate is the "carriers are the new battleship." whine.
They aren't.
I promise.
As a ship builder and a 0.0 pilot, carriers are becoming more prolific but they certainly aren't the next BS. more training, more isk, slower, harder to move, harder to fit (when was the last time you saw a capital mod drop from a rat?) etc etc etc.
Yes they'll be more common but they will never supplant the BS. Especially not with the new T2s coming out.
That rant aside, if there is a major problem with carriers being overpowered, your solution is a GREAT one. The biggest problem I have with the nerf is that it's going to relegate carriers to orbiting a POS 20m outside of the shield and assigning fighters. They'll be taken off the front lines almost completely in large engagements. Yours does the opposite and I love it.
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:12:00 -
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I like this version of a nerf much more than the current suggested heavy nerfage.
It continues to give carriers an incentive to be played on the front lines of a fleet rather than sat at a POS with fighters assigned out (which is likely if it can only field 5 and asign 10).
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Angelique Berlan
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:52:00 -
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sweet idea. this way we actualy get to keep controll over our drones.
but the devs still have their nerf of carriers beeing useless without support
I LOVE IT!
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BhallSpawn
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: BhallSpawn on 23/10/2007 23:55:07
Edited by: BhallSpawn on 23/10/2007 23:54:40
Better idea than current nerf suggestion, what they are suggesting now is just dumb.
The way it is now is fine... people lose carriers and motherships all the time, its not an uber killing machine.... without support you die anyway...
If a change MUST occur(and it seems CCP is gonna ram it down our throats anyway),
My idea would be to have the fighters controled by actual players..
I think that would rule.
Have the current fighter config done the way it is, but only use the carrier pilots skills to determine damage as it is... But if you have actual people manning those fighters let them control the fighter and use their drone skills instead.
This way the AI is better and more gang oriented when you have corp involvement, and less sophisticated ways of doing things when you have to control them yourself.
2 years of training time for the suggested nerf suggestion isn't worth it
If it ever gets thru I want my 9 months of training back.
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OzDeaDMeaT
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:07:00 -
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The only problem i could see with the ON grid point is when ur support warps off, will the drones they had assigned just fly directly back into your drone bay?
This is an excellent idea. I havent got the Triage module yet. Can you assign fighters to people while in that mode?
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Caligulus
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:13:00 -
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*points at carrier pilots* HAHA *mutters under breath* suckers...
jk
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