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Odins Spear
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:07:00 -
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Okay so i acquired a battleship blueprint and it has x materials listed to create one... but doesn't list any skills required.. i found a skill called capital ship construction.
do i need that to produce my BPC? or is it only required when manufacturing from a BPO? it only list mineral requirements as well should there be other requirements?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 23/10/2007 23:30:24
You need no skills to build T1 battleships. You need no skills to build T1 items, period.
Of course, you WANT some skills, like industry and production efficiency, to build faster and cheaper, and you want mass production so you can build more than just one item at a time. But you don't NEED any skills. _
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GC13
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:30:00 -
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Short answer is: No. You don't need any skills it doesn't list you as needing, bar Science I for using research slots or Industry I for using manufacturing slots.
Extra info: Capital ships are ships larger than battleships, so it will never apply to a battleship.
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Mona X
Caldari C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.10.23 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Odins Spear Okay so i acquired a battleship blueprint and it has x materials listed to create one... but doesn't list any skills required..
To build standard, tech 1 items you need only industry at level 1. But it's not too efficient. :P If you want get into industry, check this guide.
Originally by: Odins Spear i found a skill called capital ship construction.
This one is needed only to build capital ships like freighters, carriers or titans.
Originally by: Odins Spear do i need that to produce my BPC? or is it only required when manufacturing from a BPO?
'O' in BPO stands for 'original'. BPOs are better because they have unlimited runs (you are limited only by how many minerals you have and time) and you can perform some research on them, ie. create BPC ('c' for 'copy'). BPCes have limited amount of runs and you cannot perform research on them (except invention).
Originally by: Odins Spear it only list mineral requirements as well should there be other requirements?
If blueprint would have other requirements, they will be mentioned there. For example, check any rig's BPO.
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Slave Runner
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T You need no skills to build T1 battleships. You need no skills to build T1 items, period.
Exceptions to the rule: - Prototype Cloaking Device I - Mobile Small Warp Disruptor I - Mobile Medium Warp Disruptor I - Mobile Large Warp Disruptor I
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Masheine
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Posted - 2007.10.24 01:34:00 -
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You bought a BPO that costs from 700mil to 1.4bil isk, and you don't know how to manufacture?
k...
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Corporati Capitalis
Tollan Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.24 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Masheine You bought a BPO that costs from 700mil to 1.4bil isk, and you don't know how to manufacture?
k...
You posted here without even reading the OP?
k...
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Jurgen Cartis
Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2007.10.24 06:34:00 -
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You don't NEED any skills beyond Industry I. You definitely WANT some though. Industry reduces build time, but unless you produce in large quantities, that is not an issue, Mass Production increases the number of jobs you can run, but as before, this is a nonissue for anyone who is not producing a lot of stuff. Production Efficiency is very important though. With PE 0 you use 25% more stuff to build that battleship than you will with PE V. 25% of the cost for a BS is at least 10m, up to 30+m for a tier 3 BS.
You have a choice here. Train PE to IV or V and build it yourself with minerals, or sell the minerals and the BPC and buy one off the market. I guarantee you, if you take the opportunity costs into consideration, building a BS with less than PE IV will be a losing proposition. Building with PE IV may even be a losing proposition, depending on market conditions, but PE V is 15 or so days, a little much for a single BS.
By the way, there are skills out there called Frigate Construction, Cruiser Construction and Industrial Construction (Battleship Construction will come with Rev 3, for Black Ops and Marauders). These are ONLY for producing T2 ships. No T1 ship requires extra skills. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth |
Koxinga
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Corporati Capitalis
Originally by: Masheine You bought a BPO that costs from 700mil to 1.4bil isk, and you don't know how to manufacture?
k...
You posted here without even reading the OP?
k...
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Originally by: "Chribba" haha I would probably have removed that if I saw it too :P But since we spoke about it now I'll approve it.
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Masheine
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Posted - 2007.10.26 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Corporati Capitalis You posted here without even reading the OP?
k...
Since you're so on your game today, maybe you can explain why someone with no idea how a blueprint works, whether for manufacturing or copying, might splash out a billion isk out on one?
Or are you too busy looking for posts where people might say "manufacturing" as short hand for "how blueprints work" in order to get some kind of weird kicks from imagining that they haven't read posts?
That's a weird fetish, man. I'd have gone for something a bit more accessible. Like watching out for people writing "loose" instead of "lose." Much more common, and you can get your fix with a lot less effort. I can only imagine how you must feel at 2am on some moonless week night, cold sweat soaking through your clothes while you constantly hit the refresh button, waiting for a fix, hoping vainly that someone might have used that magical "m" word, allowing you to pounce on some blessed relief.
Don't do it, man. Ease back. You don't want to hit middle age with that kind of monkey on your back. |
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Jurgen Cartis
Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2007.10.26 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Odins Spear Okay so i acquired a battleship blueprint and it has x materials listed to create one... but doesn't list any skills required.. i found a skill called capital ship construction.
do i need that to produce my BPC? or is it only required when manufacturing from a BPO? it only list mineral requirements as well should there be other requirements?
Alright Mashiene, here's the OP again, with the important part highlighted rather prominently. Though I strongly suspect I've just been trolled. . . -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth |
Masheine
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Posted - 2007.10.26 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jurgen Cartis Alright Mashiene, here's the OP again, with the important part highlighted rather prominently. Though I strongly suspect I've just been trolled. . .
You didn't get trolled. Turns out I'm a dumbass. I read that as him wanting to create a BPC, to "produce [a] BPC," where I guess he wants to actually produce _from_ a BPC.
To be fair to me, the wording _is_ a bit ambiguous.
Either way, I'll go over in the corner and cut myself for awhile now. |
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