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Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Arana Tellen on 24/10/2007 00:26:12 Bonus order: (frigate) (electronic attack frigate)
Amarr: 5% tracking disruptor, 20% nos/neut ammount 40% NOS range 5% cap recharge time
Caldari: 20% Jammer strength, 15% jammer cap use 10% Jammer optimal, 5% jammer cap use
Gallente: 5% Sensor damp effectiveness, 10% sensor damp cap usage 10% warp disrupt range 10% warp disrputor cap usage
Minmitar: 5% MWD cap penalty, 7.5% target painter effectiveness 20% stasis web range, 3% sig radius reduction
Ishkur: Limmited to 5 lights with 10m3 extra drone bay 2 more replacement lights because I will survive the 5 seconds ill survive anyway to launch them ---------------------------------
Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz |
Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Arana Tellen on 24/10/2007 00:30:19 The none dedicated electronic ship gets more drone space than the AF that has a bonus dedicated to drone space
The amarr frigate is 33% faster, 25% lighter, similar powergrid.
You are joking right? At least give the AFs a chance to tank ---------------------------------
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Arana Tellen The none dedicated electronic ship gets more drone space than the AF that has a bonus dedicated to drone space
ok that makes little sense. the drone bonus ship should have more or the bonus removed so the role is clear. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |
Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Arana Tellen on 24/10/2007 00:31:52
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Arana Tellen The none dedicated electronic ship gets more drone space than the AF that has a bonus dedicated to drone space
ok that makes little sense. the drone bonus ship should have more or the bonus removed so the role is clear.
Even with level V AFs its
50m3 with 25MB bandwidth
vs
60m3 with 20MB Bandwidth
It REALLY makes no sense. ---------------------------------
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Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:40:00 -
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The Ishkur doesn't need a nerf imo
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Arachidamia
The Ninja Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.24 00:42:00 -
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AF's really do need a boost don't they. A role bonus of a percentage immunity to webs strikes me as a good one. And a mass similar to a t1 frigate would also be a good start.
Shame which they're so good at pve... and so utterly, utterly useless at pvp.
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Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.24 08:47:00 -
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bump ---------------------------------
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.24 08:53:00 -
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pointless bonus, they should give it a new bonus, a 50m3 drone bay.
having the drone bonus to give it 50 doesn't seem right. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |
Ridley Tree
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2007.10.24 09:05:00 -
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The drone frigate has a smaller drone bay than the electronic attack frigs. Being able to use 5 light drones honestly doesn't do you any good at all. What is a perfectly fine and reasonable ship that has not been the center of any whines or complaints accusing it of being over-powered or unfair is now nerfed into being almost worthless as a solo-ship and being superseded by other similar ships in a gang environment. Why bother bringing an Ishkur along in your gang if an electronic attack frigate has a bigger drone bay and enough bandwidth to launch 4 lights + do all sorts of fun Ewar. ____
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Wild Rho
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.10.24 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: Wild Rho on 24/10/2007 09:10:24 The Gallente one seems to overlap with the new role proposed for the "lesser used" inties with the warp scram/disruptor range bonus. Infact the allocation of alot of these bonuses seem really half assed and step on the toes of several other ships roles.
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ollobrains
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.24 09:19:00 -
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webber resistances are probably a good start
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Constructicon
Gallente The Plebians
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Posted - 2007.10.24 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: Arana Tellen Edited by: Arana Tellen on 24/10/2007 00:30:19 The none dedicated electronic ship gets more drone space than the AF that has a bonus dedicated to drone space
eh? no it doesnt...
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Alex Harumichi
Gallente Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.10.24 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Alex Harumichi on 24/10/2007 09:24:16
Originally by: Arana Tellen
Ishkur: Limmited to 5 lights with 10m3 extra drone bay 2 more replacement lights because I will survive the 5 seconds ill survive anyway to launch them
Yeah, this was obviously done because everyone was complaining about the Ishkur. Right? Right? Anyone? Bueller?
Sigh. A ship class that everyone agrees needs help (and lots of it), gets a nerf. I don't know what's being used to generate these CCP brainstorms, a Magic 8-Ball?
And of course, the new Amarr EW frigate gets more drone love than the "dedicated drone platform" AF.
I mean.... wtf?
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.24 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Constructicon
Originally by: Arana Tellen Edited by: Arana Tellen on 24/10/2007 00:30:19 The none dedicated electronic ship gets more drone space than the AF that has a bonus dedicated to drone space
eh? no it doesnt...
he AF gets 50m3 with the ship skill at level 5
the new frig gets a 60m3 on it's own.
yes the 5 light drones is one thing, that I think most people could live with, but the drone space is now pointless to be a bonus. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |
ollobrains
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.24 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Alex Harumichi
Originally by: Arana Tellen
Ishkur: Limmited to 5 lights with 10m3 extra drone bay 2 more replacement lights because I will survive the 5 seconds ill survive anyway to launch them
Yeah, this was obviously done because everyone was complaining about the Ishkur. Right? Right? Anyone? Bueller?
Sigh. A ship class that everyone agrees needs help (and lots of it), gets a nerf. I don't know what's being used to generate these CCP brainstorms, a Magic 8-Ball?
drunken round table discussions on how to screw the player base over the most, i think CCP picks the most extreme nerf just to generate choas on the forums with all the whinage they seem to get off on it, expect everything to be rejijjed anyway before the patch goes live
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