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Spaced Skunk D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:27:00 - [1] I am no Myrmidon fan, but I think CCP you've been a bit harsh on this ship. Its gone from: Tranquility: 5 Heavy Drones Max SiSi: 2 Heavy/2 Med/1 Light (75m3 equivelant usable drones at one time) The problem I see with this myself CCP, is that its now more of a gun boat than a drone boat. You should really reduce its high slots to 5, and give it 100m3 bandwidth in my opinion. I don't even fly the ship though hehe. To Spawny, a great guy, a great laugh. Rest in peace buddy.
Waxau Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:30:00 - [2] Originally by: Spaced Skunk I am no Myrmidon fan, but I think CCP you've been a bit harsh on this ship. Its gone from: Tranquility: 5 Heavy Drones Max SiSi: 2 Heavy/2 Med/1 Light (75m3 equivelant usable drones at one time) The problem I see with this myself CCP, is that its now more of a gun boat than a drone boat. You should really reduce its high slots to 5, and give it 100m3 bandwidth in my opinion. I don't even fly the ship though hehe. CCP's issue is making the Eos inline with the other command ships. Think of a Vulture, and so on. Their Dps sucks. But its still got to be somewhat better slightly than a myrmidon. Hence the nerf. All looks good in my books tho!
Spaced Skunk D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:33:00 - [3] Originally by: Waxau Originally by: Spaced Skunk I am no Myrmidon fan, but I think CCP you've been a bit harsh on this ship. Its gone from: Tranquility: 5 Heavy Drones Max SiSi: 2 Heavy/2 Med/1 Light (75m3 equivelant usable drones at one time) The problem I see with this myself CCP, is that its now more of a gun boat than a drone boat. You should really reduce its high slots to 5, and give it 100m3 bandwidth in my opinion. I don't even fly the ship though hehe. CCP's issue is making the Eos inline with the other command ships. Think of a Vulture, and so on. Their Dps sucks. But its still got to be somewhat better slightly than a myrmidon. Hence the nerf. All looks good in my books tho! Indeed it needed a nerf, but I think by reducing its usable drones so drastically its really gimped the ship. I think it should be able to use at least 4 heavies at the expense of one of its turret HPs. To Spawny, a great guy, a great laugh. Rest in peace buddy.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:48:00 - [4] Originally by: Spaced Skunk Originally by: Waxau Originally by: Spaced Skunk I am no Myrmidon fan, but I think CCP you've been a bit harsh on this ship. Its gone from: Tranquility: 5 Heavy Drones Max SiSi: 2 Heavy/2 Med/1 Light (75m3 equivelant usable drones at one time) The problem I see with this myself CCP, is that its now more of a gun boat than a drone boat. You should really reduce its high slots to 5, and give it 100m3 bandwidth in my opinion. I don't even fly the ship though hehe. CCP's issue is making the Eos inline with the other command ships. Think of a Vulture, and so on. Their Dps sucks. But its still got to be somewhat better slightly than a myrmidon. Hence the nerf. All looks good in my books tho! Indeed it needed a nerf, but I think by reducing its usable drones so drastically its really gimped the ship. I think it should be able to use at least 4 heavies at the expense of one of its turret HPs. Train amarr BCs they are great.
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:52:00 - [5] Does the new Myrmidon still have to damage to break the tank of a Drake? BC Vs BC are common, nice fights and were pretty well balanced before however it is something you people with SiSi access should be testing! - Ideas are my business...maybe thats why I'm always skint! Please read my ideas
Kaileen Starsong Amarr Down In Flames	Posted - 2007.10.24 11:55:00 - [6] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Does the new Myrmidon still have to damage to break the tank of a Drake? BC Vs BC are common, nice fights and were pretty well balanced before however it is something you people with SiSi access should be testing! If the drake flies the brick-mode tank.. nope, neither would you pop it today tbh(but he won't ever pop you either). If it fits at least web/disrupot, it'll die anyway. And you can also loose ECM drones on him if you see his gangmates coming, without sacrificing dps to the relative maximum
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 12:05:00 - [7] Cheers, Currently though a full rack of ions IIs with 1 neutron II and 5 Ogre IIs and high skills definately (like me!) does grind down even the ubertanked Drake (though very slowly). And the Drake does do enough damage to hurt the Myrmi - it becomes about whether you have enough booster 800s! They can be quite fun fights. However I'd hate to see the Drake tank effectively get a boost meaning no other BC can break its best tank in a 1v1. - Ideas are my business...maybe thats why I'm always skint! Please read my ideas
Kaileen Starsong Amarr Down In Flames	Posted - 2007.10.24 12:14:00 - [8] Edited by: Kaileen Starsong on 24/10/2007 12:15:23 Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Cheers, Currently though a full rack of ions IIs with 1 neutron II and 5 Ogre IIs and high skills definately (like me!) does grind down even the ubertanked Drake (though very slowly). And the Drake does do enough damage to hurt the Myrmi - it becomes about whether you have enough booster 800s! They can be quite fun fights. However I'd hate to see the Drake tank effectively get a boost meaning no other BC can break its best tank in a 1v1. That point could be used for justifying the nerf, actually See, no other BC could break full-tanked drake besides the myrm and it's not like myrm is lacking in tank or ew department compared to other BCs. Yes, its primary source of dps can be popped, while it's not that easy thing to do when you're being pounded by 800+ dps ship, but say harb/cane would much more likely be popped themselves, heh PS. Btw, I actually agree with OP, 5 turrets and 100 mbit bandwidth would be better, both from perspective of a myrm pilot and someone who likes popping them ;)
Xzar Fyrarr	Posted - 2007.10.24 12:15:00 - [9] WE need to learn to adapt to changes... Myrm's getting nerfed.. o god... It'll still be useable right =\| Make i thave 95 drone capacity and be done wiht it :[
Harmon Illuminati Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.10.24 12:44:00 - [10] pfft, breaking a perfectly good ship, yes they are good but they are so easy to drop down the dPS ON THEM! The whole Drone change is stupid, as was ECM, Torps, and the way damps are gonna be, Change change change, Isnt Fix fix fix, ITS BREAKING THE GAME!
Karyuudo Tydraad Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services	Posted - 2007.10.24 12:47:00 - [11] Let's see how it impacts the ship more before we start discussing if it's balanced.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.10.24 12:55:00 - [12] Originally by: Harmon Illuminati pfft, breaking a perfectly good ship, yes they are good but they are so easy to drop down the dPS ON THEM! The whole Drone change is stupid, as was ECM, Torps, and the way damps are gonna be, Change change change, Isnt Fix fix fix, ITS BREAKING THE GAME! Yes I agree! Also the heatsink stacking nerf! Lets remove that and Im happy
Sikozu Prioris Suns Of Korhal YouWhat	Posted - 2007.10.24 13:11:00 - [13] OMFG ccp gets more ******** by the day. The original rev3 dev blog clearly stated that drone users would get significant boosts (read gallente pilots) Instead they are using it to nerf every single gallente ship. Idoitic. CCP will see two cancelled accounts if the carrier nerf goes thro and is making me want to quit over these changes to normal drone boats anyway "A enemy fleet emerges from the shadows" - What shadows!?! We're in ****ing space for gods sake
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.24 13:37:00 - [14] Originally by: Sikozu Prioris OMFG ccp gets more ******** by the day. The original rev3 dev blog clearly stated that drone users would get significant boosts (read gallente pilots) Instead they are using it to nerf every single gallente ship. Idoitic. CCP will see two cancelled accounts if the carrier nerf goes thro and is making me want to quit over these changes to normal drone boats anyway Hehe - I feel your pain... If you leave - can I have your Sig??? (your stuff would no doubt be very nice too! It'd finance my 2 years of retraining to Minmatar) - Ideas are my business...maybe thats why I'm always skint! Please read my ideas
DARTHxFREE G.R.U.N.T	Posted - 2007.10.24 13:42:00 - [15] If my maths are correct.. 75m3 worth of drones? x1.5dmg So still has 112.5m3 equivalent of drone usage, but with boosted HP. On top of a very working tanked blaster/AC platform. Sounds great to me, was just asking for a nerf being able to take on Field Command ships 1v1 /join Cheeze & Whine Club
MingRan	Posted - 2007.10.24 14:58:00 - [16] Originally by: Xzar Fyrarr WE need to learn to adapt to changes... Myrm's getting nerfed.. o god... It'll still be useable right =\| Make i thave 95 drone capacity and be done wiht it :[ Or at least 80mbit (2 heavy/3medium).
Nyx STeeLGamers	Posted - 2007.10.24 15:06:00 - [17] Originally by: MingRan Originally by: Xzar Fyrarr WE need to learn to adapt to changes... Myrm's getting nerfed.. o god... It'll still be useable right =\| Make i thave 95 drone capacity and be done wiht it :[ Or at least 80mbit (2 heavy/3medium). i love the idea by reducing the highslots and put the mbit to 100, or maybe it is a good nerf, but from now on, ill either train to another bc or go for domi. gall lost their bc, but got a new good t2 bs:P but i woulden¦t use that for ratting, i hope they fix everything, so all tier 2 bc will be equil, and all bs will be "almost" equil, gall = closerange dps ..caldari = closerange or ecm .. minnie = fast+dps .. amarr = snipers in gang
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.24 15:06:00 - [18] I think 80mbit would be fair. But at same time some Battleships could get same treatment from 75 to 80 mbit. And MOST BS could get extra drone bay to get reserves. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Taedrin Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Rare Faction	Posted - 2007.10.24 15:06:00 - [19] To be honest, 5 T2 Heavy drones being used on non-battleships is overpowered. That would be like having torps on a drake.
Spaced Skunk D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.24 15:10:00 - [20] As I said, I dont use the ship, I am minmatar, but from first glance it does seem like a harsh change. To Spawny, a great guy, a great laugh. Rest in peace buddy.
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.10.24 15:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Spaced Skunk I am no Myrmidon fan, but I think CCP you've been a bit harsh on this ship. Its gone from: Tranquility: 5 Heavy Drones Max SiSi: 2 Heavy/2 Med/1 Light (75m3 equivelant usable drones at one time) The problem I see with this myself CCP, is that its now more of a gun boat than a drone boat. You should really reduce its high slots to 5, and give it 100m3 bandwidth in my opinion. I don't even fly the ship though hehe. IT's already been proven that, even with only 5 medium drones, the Myrmidon stay the most damaging teir2 battlecruiser. if you wish to complain about a BC, look at the Harbinger. ------------------------------------------ What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs.

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