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Rutefly Amarr Freedom-Technologies	Posted - 2007.10.25 06:23:00 - [31] They live on an island. Nuff' said.
zibelthurdos Archron Dusyfe Industries Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.10.25 06:44:00 - [32] Originally by: Plasticine Perfection So I've been driving now for about 15 years, I've driven in the USA, France, Germany and the UK. Out of all of those UK drivers are BY FAR the worst. i take it you've never driven around the boston area ----------------------------------------------- --- EVE Online, Nowhere to run, Nowhere to Hide---, except apparently in noob corps. Don't think of it as dying, Think of it as leaving early to av
DarK STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.10.25 07:05:00 - [33] I'd say Australian drivers, especially from Western Australia, are the worst in terms of driving ability. They'd die in Europe where the roads are 50% narrower. Dutch drivers can drive ok, but they are the most inconsiderate and arrogant. I love how they stop in the middle of a busy road because they can't find parking, and then go get a coffee. UK drivers didnt seem so bad by comparison.
Ulendar M34t p0p s1ckle Manufacturing Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.25 08:12:00 - [34] I put about 250-300 kms on the clock each night delivering stuff in my van and in the 10 years of doing so I've seen things I could very well use to fill a book with. Easily on top of my black list are those guys who are running ahead of a queue of cars, going slow .. then fast, slow again, fast .. this usually happens when going uphill no less. Lovely. The area of Germany I live in has a lot of mountains and roads with through forests, so overtaking these guys can be impossible for quite a while. Then, how can you not despise the folks who hop from one gap to the next in a line of cars whenever they can, totally ignoring other ppl's safety. There is this very long, straight road I use every so often where ppl have made this a regular habit .. in the early hours of the morning no less, during fog, in winter .. you get the idea. I totally agree on going faster than allowed, like 120 where 100 is allowed when it's night and there is little to no traffic btw, but I guess our relatively low fines for traffic violations do have cons - people don't put much thought into wtf they do on the road at times. Using cellphones is a major issue here and although disallowed while driving ppl still do it .. costs 40 bux if you get busted and that's it. I think however, the thing that overall p****s me off the most is not ppl going too fast or too slow, but generally speaking, those tards who are apparently totally oblivious to the fact that other ppl take part in traffic too are the most annoying kind. __________
Motokko Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.25 09:46:00 - [35] Clearly this bad driving phenomenon is an escalating problem for all countries and as such I put forward my proposal for a new global police strike force to combat this problem and provide releaf from roadrage for all considerate drivers. This force will be split into small untis, otherwise refered to as Police Instant Gratification Squadrans, and distributed around the globe in bad driving hot-spots. Each unit of P.I.G.S. will be equiped with an armored attack car fitted out with the latest in heavy weaponry in order to quickly and efficiently perform their duty. Their main objective will be to immediatly enforce retribution on any boy racers, dizzy women drivers, or smug business men talking on mobile phones in the form of a hail of high velocity explosive tipped lead and thus providing instant gratification for any other drivers in the area. Controlling and coordinating the P.I.G.S. will be a new global organisation who will be known as the Bureau for Automotive Crime Obstruction for all Nations (B.A.C.O.N.). The job of B.A.C.O.N. will be to monitor traffic cameras across the globe looking for such bad drivers and orginising any P.I.G.S. in the area to intercept. They will also collate recordings of the following brutal acts of justice visited upon these bad drivers taken by the on board cameras which each armored car will be fitting with and upload these videos in the form of cop shows thus also providing the masses with entertainment. All in favour say aye.
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.10.25 11:13:00 - [36] Seeing as we now seem to be deciding which bit of the world is worst at driving, I'd like to weigh in with my nomination. And the winner is... Sofia in Bulgaria. Sofia is incredible. The entire place looks like a post-WWII french village, complete with cobblestones on the main streets.... and it's the capital. There is an almost total absence of road markings, even on the bits that are actually properly surfaced and maybe half a dozen sets of lights in the town centre. A lot of Trabants and Ladas (mainly Trabants) are still on the road there, so I doubt many folk in Sofia can actually get above whatever the speed limit is, so that's not the problem. Incidentally, if you thought "custom" Corsas were sad, you ain't seen anything till you've seen a badly modded Trabant with full body kit and furry dice. I wish I had pictures to show you. It's the little bubble in which every driver seems to surround himself. They seem blissfully unaware of the presence of any other road user. Drivers pull across 4 lanes of traffic on the big roads out of town, without even looking to see what's coming. They also have trams on the roads. Not trams like Western Europe, where recent schemes to avoid congestion and pollution have put them back on the streets, and they're quite nice and relatively quiet. These are Satan's own trams and look like they have been in no-stop operation since before the Great War... they certainly sound and smell like it. And the tram drivers stop for nothing... seemingly not even passengers. It's almost like the motoring equivalent of a Norweigan death-metal gig; heads down, see you at the end. Possibly the local populace have some kind of armed respose to this, as if you go into the hills near town, ALL the road signs are riddled with bullet holes... I kid you not. I've driven in the worst parts of the UK. I used to drive Taxis around Liverpool and Birkenhead, I've been a bike courier, I've taken articulated trucks down Camden High St. (London) on a Friday afternoon and nothing had prepared me for the sheer, unbridled, savagery of the Bulgarian driving experience. Lovely place, nice folk, excellent food, really laid-back and tolerant atmosphere.... terrible drivers. ___________________________________________________ The game will never be over, because we're keeping the meme alive.
Sean Hernandez	Posted - 2007.10.25 11:31:00 - [37] Originally by: Jago Kain eye openers Like Jago I have been around a bit. During a holiday to India I saw the most bizarre driving ever. sitting in rush hour traffic in the afternoon when a ten tonne truck speeds past on the wrong side of the road around a corner in the middle of Kolkatta. The traffic policeman's response hand in the air to recieve a high-five with bank note from the passenger in the truck, without the guy even slowing down. The highway code in india is - buy a horn and go, the rest is up to you. Scary biscuits. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
mogwai Gallente Gremlin Industries Edge Of Sanity	Posted - 2007.10.25 12:10:00 - [38] Originally by: Sean Hernandez The highway code in india is - buy a horn and go, the rest is up to you. Scary biscuits. the main highway code in India is 'might gets right' the bigger the truck, the faster you travel.... i'd hate to be a cyclist
abbagabba Gallente Monster Raving Loonies	Posted - 2007.10.25 13:13:00 - [39] Indian road junction My 2p: The UK has some of the safest (and busiest) roads in the world and always has done. There is no evidence however that speed cameras and over zealous traffic enforcement have improved our death rates. imho the key is C.O.A.S.T, control, observation, anticipation, space and time. I feel I can concentrate on these aspects of driving when I am allowed to make reasonable progress, not stuck behind a queue of slow moving cars who do not leave enough room between themselves to allow safe overtaking (that would be Space) and have no intention of overtaking themselves. This inevitably leads to rash manouveres by the frustrated drivers behind and allows no time for the queue to react if something does happen. They are partly to blame if there is then an accident yet every time some nutter dangerously blasts by them no doubt they mutter to themselves in self righteous indignation rather than asking what they can do to stop it being dangerous. The moronic STOP! adverts we are bombarded with have emphasised speed limits above all other considerations (there are a few exceptions like the one where a guy takes his motorbike for a spin and is shown reading the road and spotting potential hazards) rather than teaching good driving so we can all get along on the roads together, fast and slow drivers, holding hands in harmony and building a more peaceful and prosperous land (ok got a bit carried away there).
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2007.10.25 14:25:00 - [40] I must admite i do lose it some times. I drive a 12 tonne truck and people pee me off when they just shot out in front of me thinking I be fine. So I had to brake hard not to have a smash. What pee me off is that Stupid driving. It annoys me when i coming off a layby and there a car in first lane and there two lanes free to let me out but they dont so i have to wait longer. I also Hate the fact driving in 40 zone and cars drive 20 really winds me up and 30 zone is 20 as well. I mean come on!! Also some car driver just stop in a small road that make it impossable to pass and they sit there been dumb even tho i given a signal to move here etc so i can get though. All in all I find angelsey? North Wales worse than London. Drivers
Lord Zoran Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.10.25 16:41:00 - [41] i've only been driving since 15th ( passed 1st time ) but already i've seen so many idiots on the road, i wouldn't kow about other countries yet but i'm guessing it can't get much worse then the uk --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!! Yarr!?!?!?!?!
Frezik Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.25 19:22:00 - [42] I roll my eye's every time someone pulls out the "overcompensating" reasoning for just about anything, and particularly cars. It's an intellectual short cut that's usually wrong. Can't anyone just like fast cars for their own sake? My Wisconsin drivers license is valid in Germany for short-term stays (with a little paper work) (and doesn't need much more for long-term visits), which makes me fear for the Germans. The autobahn is the proper way to do a hiway system, but Wisconsinites would only screw it up. In any case, if you want to reduce gas millage, the first places to look are: 1) Driver training 2) Bad traffic control Lopping off 25-50% of the worst drivers combined with an associated increase in public transportation quality would go a long way towards reducing emissions. Much more than giving everyone a Prius would. On bad traffic control: 1) Increase all speed limits by 10mph, excepting school zones. Tweak individual roads as needed. 2) Replace nearly all stop signs with yield signs. Instruct everyone that "Yield" does not mean "Stop". 3) Modify light timing according to real-world driving conditions. If I have to stop at every light along a road while doing the speed limit, something is wrong. The safest speed is the one where the driver doesn't feel safe. When the driver gets too comfortable, they fall asleep or don't pay attention. The slight edge you get when you expect a deer may jump in front of you at any moment is actually healthy.
Euxinus DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.25 20:36:00 - [43] Originally by: Plasticine Perfection So I've been driving now for about 15 years, I've driven in the USA, France, Germany and the UK. Consider yourself lucky that you havent drove a car in Istanbul...
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.10.25 20:53:00 - [44] Instanbul ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.10.26 00:37:00 - [45] My guess is that they figure that if they drive hard enough they'll get back to the future i.e today. UK looks like it's been lost in time somewhere around 1960. Also Known As
Brujo Loco Amarr Brujeria Teologica	Posted - 2007.10.26 05:46:00 - [46] hahah you guys need to come to my city, Maracaibo . Apart from being one of the most dangerous city in the whole country, it has what outsiders from others cities dub "Maracucho Driving Style". Cops here overall rarely give tickets, and they can be bribed sometimes. People hardly respect traffic stops or signposts or any kind of vehicular simbology on the street, people here sometimes even drive thru one way lanes in the opposite way cuz it's easier to reach a certain spot than do it the right way. Fact is, if you know how to drive here, you can drive anywhere else. People ignore STOPS, they park on yellow lines, double park, some even have the nerve to park sometimes in the middle of the street for a while as they go buy something "quick". Drivers here usually go over the islands that separate the lanes (those with pickup trucks for example) to turn back, U turn wherever they feel like it, speed up regularly on limited speed lanes, drive totally drunk (Post 2 AM traffic here is deadly ) and practically do whatever they please when they want it. People here ignore red lights if they feel they can make it thru quickly and think yellow is a sign to step on the gas harder. Needless to say people that make a lot of money here are car repair shops haha and derivatives, like Traffic Officers and Psychiatrists (bribes can be good, specially when you kill someone and need to be declared insane to avoid jail) . You also have to learn to avoid the local ethnic population , the Wayuu , cuz they usually drop their dead relatives on high speed remote lanes to blame you for the dead and demand you you pay them money for it else they will kill you (yes, kill you in bloody machete murder). And well, yes, you also have to avoid hitting or fender bendering the wrong people as most people here is armed , and Im talking Full Automatic ordinance, tho most common sidearm here is the 9mm. Drunk drivers when they hit you and don't die (I have seen and experienced this firsthand) sometimes get so angry they either shoot you or break your car with their bare hands as they rip to shred their own hands (that guys was prolly drugged and drunk) Err... what else? rest of the time it is pretty smooth driving tho Viva VENEZUELA!!! Archipelago Theory
Gericault m0id Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2007.10.26 13:39:00 - [47] You must have been driving in London. I ride a scooter here and it's bloody dangerous. Go to the North and you'll be stuck in traffic for everybody letting everyone else pass in front...
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.10.26 13:41:00 - [48] Originally by: Jago Kain Edited by: Jago Kain on 24/10/2007 17:45:44 Originally by: Motokko Edited by: Motokko on 24/10/2007 17:34:43 Sadly I fear this is true, even taking into account the new burberry brigade scooter bandwagon which has them racing around before they're allowed into cars which is starting their innevitable weeny shrinkage at even younger ages. Clearly action must be taken since this poisining of the gene pool is growing at an alarming rate. I propose the introduction of chav hunting liscenses, or perhaps instant justice speed cameras fitted with rocket launchers. /signed... with some reservations. When it comes to hunting, I'm more or less in agreeement with Ted Nugent; don't shoot anything unless you are going to eat it. As my personal tastes don't run to eating scabby, incontinent, BO ridden, "loveable" scallies, I will not myself be applying for a license when common sense prevails and they become available. However, I would encourage those with a stronger digestive tract and no taste buds to fill their boots, and indeed the freezer. Go to it guys and make me proud. edit:... and can you start with Mtthias Clemi* please. The only to guy to do the obvious thing and head in the direction that the OP did anticipate.* heyyyyyyyyyyyyy, i am most certainly not a chav, in fact i despise them. -------------------------------------------- THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE!
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.10.26 14:00:00 - [49] I'm sorry to say but this is just further indication of how UK society is generally going down the toilet. No regard for anyone else, no tolerance, general lack of following any rules and instructions, lack of enforcement of the aforementioned rules. Having just driven down in Cornwall last weekend, it never ceased to amaze me that people are willing to risk death just to get a car or two in front on fast, windy roads that go from 1-2-1 carriageway. I drove 900 miles or so back from the south of France once, mainly on 2 lane roads, and floored it much of the way because they actually have a clue. They stay in the "slow" lane and only come out to overtake, keeping the indicator on while doing so. Then go straight back in. In the UK I believe you could paint 10 motorway lanes onto the grass next to the road and a load of drivers would never notice. Because they always, permanently, feel it's their right to drive in "fast lane minus one". Usually the middle lane, but on 4 lane motorways it's lane 3 etc.
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.10.26 20:55:00 - [50] Originally by: Fink Angel I'm sorry to say but this is just further indication of how UK society is generally going down the toilet. If I can borrow a much quoted axiom from our colonial cousins; Love it or leave it!! ___________________________________________________ The game will never be over, because we're keeping the meme alive.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.10.26 21:39:00 - [51] It varies from place to place. I went back to the town I grew up for a while recently and was just appalled at how badly people drove. I started shopping et al in the next town over and things were far better. If you weren't sure there was enough space to get onto the roundabout this time then people didn't lean on their horns behind you. I'd like to see a map of cities with unfriendly drivers. I'm quite sure it's a static thing. ----- Visible Implants - good for so many occasions
JADE DRAG0NESS Dark Scorpions Fate Weavers	Posted - 2007.10.27 00:05:00 - [52] Edited by: JADE DRAG0NESS on 27/10/2007 00:06:04 Edited by: JADE DRAG0NESS on 27/10/2007 00:05:38 You thought british drivers were bad ... look at this guys driving http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNYpQSNwrzs "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
Possesive Caldari GALAXIAN RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.27 00:21:00 - [53] I do about 1000 miles a week, purely commuting to work, between the north and south of the UK, southern drivers have to be the most arrogant drivers I have ever had the displeasure of being tailgated by. Much <3 for the north.
Kalahari Wayrest	Posted - 2007.10.27 02:07:00 - [54] Quote: Love it or leave it!! Those are ***ty options which imply if there's something wrong with your country, you should pretend it doesn't exist or go somewhere else instead of trying to fix/improve it. I never understood why patriotism should equal blind acceptance tbh change isn't always bad.* __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Captain Hudson Caldari Intergalactic Space Defense Force	Posted - 2007.10.27 02:31:00 - [55] Edited by: Captain Hudson on 27/10/2007 02:32:24 Originally by: Plasticine Perfection And yeah, I know there's gonna be a bunch of Daily Mail reader type posts now whinging about speed cameras and claiming that speed limits are all wrong and that they can safely drive at 60mph in a 40 zone and how evil and thoughtless and stupid cyclists and pedestrians and old woman drivers are blah blah heard it all before, you're wrong ;) dons flameproof suit :D BANG ON THE MONIESS!!! . Seriously, i have places to go,people to see,things to do!, you get in my way your going to get sworn at . But the worst driving i have ever seen is in southeren Italy, no indicators on motorways...you just change a lane etc. ****in nutters!. I think Portugal has the highest amount of road deaths in Europe aswell so they must be bad drivers! The Real Eve FanFest

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