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Jon Falkenberg
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Posted - 2007.10.27 13:30:00 -
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When rigs were introduced, they were supposed to allow players to truly customize their ships. In fact, rigs, as they currently stand, don't do anything that a char couldn't do before with skill improvements or normal modules. They're actually worse because of the "trade-offs" gain more armor, but lose speed...or whatever.
REAL jury rigging, at least as it occurred during times of war meant making vehicles do things they were never intended to do - introducing flexibility and tactical surprise. Some great examples of jury rigging:
- Pilots on Vietnam were upset that F4 Phantoms were pure missile planes, the designers didn't include a gun, so the "jury rigged" a 20mm cannon onto one of the missile hard points to give the ship a gun.
- An extreme example would be ww1/ww2 Q-Ships - Transports with extra turret or torpedo "slots" for surprising commerce raiders.
- In the movie Serenity, they used an old anti-aircraft cannon and welded it onto their ship - essentially adding a turret hard point.
I can name hundreds. My point though is that Rigs give the Devs a way to allow players to make permanent modifications that introduce surprise and flexibility into the game...not just a slight better shield regen rate or slightly faster missiles, but REAL jury rigs.
I Propose Jury Rigging be extended with rigs like these:
- Convert a high slot into a turret or missile hard point.
- Give up a slot on one level in exchange for one of another level (i.e. give up a low but gain a middle)
- Adding an extra slot entirely, but giving up something else to "make room for it"...(i.e. gain a low slot, but lose maneuverability because the ship is more ungainly.
Changes like these would allow for truly interesting ship changes that would keep players (especially old dogs) on their toes...wouldn't it ruin someone's day if a Retribution showed up and started webbing and scramming? Or if a lone pirate jumped an industrial and the prey opened up with multiple turrets.
I have no idea what would be needed on the coding end, but the ships appear to have been designed to be very flexible. This would just add for more customization.
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Karentaki
Gallente
federation navy taskforce
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Posted - 2007.10.27 14:12:00 -
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I totally agree - this could be kinda hard to balance, but if it was done right it would add a whole new dimension to EVE. PvP Iteron anyone 
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Jurgen Cartis
Caldari
Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2007.10.28 10:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Karentaki
I totally agree - this could be kinda hard to balance, but if it was done right it would add a whole new dimension to EVE. PvP Iteron anyone
Behold:
PvP Iteron
The Battle-Hulk
That second one doesn't work too well now, since stabs got nerfed, though.
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Valerax Orion
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.10.28 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jurgen Cartis
Originally by: Karentaki
I totally agree - this could be kinda hard to balance, but if it was done right it would add a whole new dimension to EVE. PvP Iteron anyone
Behold:
PvP Iteron
The Battle-Hulk
That second one doesn't work too well now, since stabs got nerfed, though.
I...back in the day when i had practically no SP and was in love with my APOC, got completely BATTERED by a squad of like, 40 badger II's
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joshmorris
Ravenous Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.28 11:39:00 -
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I would love this ... it wouldn't completely imbalance the game due to most ships have enough power grid to fit the intended amount of weapons. Adding a extra turret to deimos you would have to put in a power grid rig which i think is cool or you would have to sacrifice something else, like erm ur med rep.
The prob is that All ships would have to have there models re-done a bit so when u put a extra turret on its in a decent place and fits in.
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Jon Falkenberg
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Posted - 2007.11.01 13:56:00 -
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That's a really good point about the ship models having to be tweaked...it wouldn't be all that bad if the gun looked strange...it is a jury rig...just get some giant velcro straps :)
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sg3s
Caldari
O.W.N. Corp
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.01 14:13:00 -
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Balance is the issue here... I wouldn't mind trading in a high slot for another mid to fit another Invul T2 hardener on my raven for example, giving it a huge tank.... and hey wtf did you put on those two extra high slots anyways now nos is nerfed?.... thats right, probably something you can trade in for this option.
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SuperRanger
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Posted - 2007.11.01 19:20:00 -
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At anycase.. I rig my ship one way for something.. I need to tank well.. or I need to put out some dps.. I would like the flexibility to change out my rigs.. or like the other post said.. To rig the ship to do something awsome.. not handicap me in other areas.. The one thing I hate about rigs I do know.. Is i've placed a few rigs on a ship and relized 1. I spent a whole lot of money and it wasn't worth it.. 2. My ship now sucks more than it use to...
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geco desansha
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:00:00 -
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well.. that would make the caldari unbalenced, destroyers better than cruisers
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