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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.27 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: SiJira on 27/10/2007 21:39:09
they are for the better part of the game
the carrier change will reduce lag and balance carriers along with the hauling change currently in the test server
amarr doesnt need a boost - instead all the overpowered ships of every other race are systematically being adjusted - the recent drone bandwidth change is good
jump freighters that are coming will be taking over the role that has been run by carriers for too long
the new t2 ships coming out are going to give us some creative choices heavy interdictors? i cant stop drooling blackops that can jump gates and jumpdrive while being able to bring other ships that have the right skills trained? oh yeea
whiners unite! collectively cancel your accounts and leave this game because CCP does not listen to you
CCP is balancing the game the way its meant to be
____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.27 21:39:00 -
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reserved* ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

Clan MacGregor
Gallente Army of the 12 Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.10.27 21:41:00 -
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Post with your main....
Silly Dev'
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LemonHamster
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Posted - 2007.10.27 21:47:00 -
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You are the worst ******* poster and you have no clue how game mechanics work. What's more, you still haven't stopped trying to suck the devs***** in the vain hope they will acknowledge your existence. Decist immediately. _____________ NYAH ^_^ |

Fswd
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Posted - 2007.10.27 21:50:00 -
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So far he is right, look what happens when you try to take a 3yo's toy away. Sorry to say it, but your behavior is the same. ---
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.27 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: LemonHamster You are the worst ******* poster and you have no clue how game mechanics work. What's more, you still haven't stopped trying to suck the devs***** in the vain hope they will acknowledge your existence. Decist immediately.
u mad? ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.27 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Fswd So far he is right, look what happens when you try to take a 3yo's toy away. Sorry to say it, but your behavior is the same.
i can only say truth ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.28 00:25:00 -
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stop whining kids ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

Jojo Yohan
Gallente Cskillzone DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2007.10.28 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira they are for the better part of the game
the carrier change will reduce lag and balance carriers along with the hauling change currently in the test server
I can't tell if your trying to be sarcastic or not. I'm not sure who told you that the carrier changes will reduce lag because thats the biggest bull**** i've heard in a while. Its going to encourage larger "support fleets" (AKA "blobs") in order to command the fighters and protect the now gimped carrier. Should my ally need a new ship I'll spit out a nice one without ammo. Won't it be marvelous?
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.28 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jojo Yohan
Originally by: SiJira they are for the better part of the game
the carrier change will reduce lag and balance carriers along with the hauling change currently in the test server
I can't tell if your trying to be sarcastic or not. I'm not sure who told you that the carrier changes will reduce lag because thats the biggest bull**** i've heard in a while. Its going to encourage larger "support fleets" (AKA "blobs") in order to command the fighters and protect the now gimped carrier. Should my ally need a new ship I'll spit out a nice one without ammo. Won't it be marvelous?
so hell have to get the ammo before he shoots omg thats so hard any instance where i would call a group of ships a blob wont magically increase in number because of this change any small gang that turns from 3 to 8 is fine because this is a team game ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.31 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: LemonHamster You are the worst ******* poster and you have no clue how game mechanics work. What's more, you still haven't stopped trying to suck the devs***** in the vain hope they will acknowledge your existence. Decist immediately.
teach us grandmaster ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

Kokob
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Posted - 2007.10.31 01:47:00 -
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I can't wait for the jump frieghters... sadly looks like the rorqual has been given a boost making it a much cheaper alternative. with rigs and expanders it can almost carry as much as the jump freighters at a much smaller cost.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.31 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kokob I can't wait for the jump frieghters... sadly looks like the rorqual has been given a boost making it a much cheaper alternative. with rigs and expanders it can almost carry as much as the jump freighters at a much smaller cost.
that is not what it is made for trust in the t2 freighter ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.31 01:57:00 -
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SiJira is a long time poster and player of eve.
I love how someone called you an alt :P ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon SiJira is a long time poster and player of eve.
I love how someone called you an alt :P
i have an alt that has 3 capital letters in it   ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

Xiong Yoshi
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:10:00 -
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Edited by: Xiong Yoshi on 31/10/2007 02:11:31 Just to say - it isn't the EOS or Myrm that are being nerfed. Most of the posters on this board have failed to realize that the ships are not getting nerfed: or well, maybe they are - but that might not be a bad thing if it brings balance to the game...
The issue is really that Drones are getting nerfed. Prior to Bandwidth - players could reasonably expect to be able to use drones as a primary weapon... and there would be plenty of ships to choose from to support this play style, but as ships such as the EOS and Myrm get their options reduced - it isn't the ships that really get hurt, it is the players wanting to use Drones as the Primary weapon.
Drones are different because they use Memory as the primary attribute. If someone were to train up rails - and then rails became less feasible as a primary weapon, the player could use the same attributes to train up lasers, or missiles, or other ships... But a player who specialized in Memory - is stuck with a high attribute that doesn't reallly lend itself to crosstraining.
Ask all the 1 year old players who chose to maximize their Perception how they would feel if ship training became based off of Memory instead of Perception? That is how it feels to me - the primary weapons system has changed it's primary attribute from Memory (which I have a base 14 of) to Perception (which I have a base 5 of)..
If CCP had wanted to balance the Myrm and the EOS - they would have dropped the number of turret hardpoints to reduce the Maximum DPS for the ships. simple. But instead they go after the Drone aspect.
Don't get me wrong, I immediately switched from Myrm to harbinger; and am loving my new ship.. but I know that in the long run - my character will lag behind, and the long training times which I face by training guns will just lag the game play down for me. So, I'm loving the game right now - but have no plans to start a new character (as grinding the first 5mil SPs sux), and know that my current character is going to be gimped by the way CCP decided to nerf an attribute which I happened to choose as my primary.
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Devious Syn
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:16:00 -
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Just curious, what about the heavy dictors makes you drool? since the moment they do what they are suppose to they will get dropped.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Devious Syn Just curious, what about the heavy dictors makes you drool? since the moment they do what they are suppose to they will get dropped.
good luck with that then ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

Devious Syn
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Posted - 2007.10.31 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: Devious Syn Just curious, what about the heavy dictors makes you drool? since the moment they do what they are suppose to they will get dropped.
good luck with that then
Hmm... I'm honestly curious what makes ya say that... seriously, from what I read their resist arent all that, once they drop a bubble they cant be repped, and their speed goes to shat... so what am I missin that make them so tough to *****? (once they have done what they are suppose to do.... drop a bubble)
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Stuart Price
Caldari Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2007.10.31 03:49:00 -
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Because they're as hard to kill as a bloody drake. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier" |
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Vherokan
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon SiJira is a long time poster and player of eve.
I love how someone called you an alt :P
Also a long time moron.
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Moridin920
Gallente Capital One
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: LemonHamster You are the worst ******* poster and you have no clue how game mechanics work. What's more, you still haven't stopped trying to suck the devs***** in the vain hope they will acknowledge your existence. Decist immediately.
Why don't you explain why you think game mechanics will be screwed up?
Or you can just flame. I can play that game, too. You spelled 'desist' wrong. Terribly wrong.
Also, your grammer in your second to last sentence is terrible.
Isn't flaming fun? =/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience our piracy may have caused you, but, we are pirates and, sadly, this is our way." |

Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira whiners unite! collectively cancel your accounts and leave this game because CCP does not listen to you
CCP is balancing the game the way its meant to be
You have it there. CCP balance the game by ignoring the players.
Though past history shows that excessive whining actually results in changes.
Though the carrier nerf (which was only a discussion idea) was ill-considered and would not result in the reduction of lag, only the increase of frustration of flying a carrier. Overall the proposed nerfing of ships to bring everyone down to the amarr level will only encourage more blobbing. For a long time players have complained that their should be an edge for intelligent players so that they can engage large numbers of people and not need a counter blob.
The heavy interdictor appears to be a multi-racial way of countering nano gangs assuming the webbing component is left in. The black ops bs is ok but won't be practical to use until the prices come down.
The only significantly interesting addition is the t2 ewar frigs which I've waited for a long time.
The rest of it doesn't interest me.
Quote: "... I doubt they would have the skillpoints and cap fleet to take and make soverignty over a large established alliance like BoB."
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Moridin920
Originally by: LemonHamster You are the worst ******* poster and you have no clue how game mechanics work. What's more, you still haven't stopped trying to suck the devs***** in the vain hope they will acknowledge your existence. Decist immediately.
Why don't you explain why you think game mechanics will be screwed up?
Or you can just flame. I can play that game, too. You spelled 'desist' wrong. Terribly wrong.
Also, your grammer in your second to last sentence is terrible.
Isn't flaming fun? =/
It appears that you're picking on someone's grammar because they have a different opinion to you. Why don't you pick on the OP who doesn't use capital letters at the start of sentances?
Quote: "... I doubt they would have the skillpoints and cap fleet to take and make soverignty over a large established alliance like BoB."
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NerfBat Wack
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.31 05:26:00 -
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NERF YOUR FACE,
You don't know what's good for you!
WHACK! Notify: you have been smacked by the nerf bat, you are now yet another worthless eve relic. |

Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.31 05:29:00 -
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I wonder if CCP had meetings like this while deciding what to nerf .. 
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: SiJira whiners unite! collectively cancel your accounts and leave this game because CCP does not listen to you
CCP is balancing the game the way its meant to be
You have it there. CCP balance the game by ignoring the players.
Though past history shows that excessive whining actually results in changes.
wrong past history shows that what is overpowered gets nerfed what is not overpowered will not be nerfed no matter how many whines there are ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

Enve'la
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Posted - 2007.10.31 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
wrong past history shows that what is overpowered gets nerfed what is not overpowered will not be nerfed no matter how many whines there are
Oh really troll? NOS and drones, while overpowered on specific ships(Dominix, Myrmidon), were not overpowered but essential on the majority of Amarr ships, which relied heavily on both to deal a respectable level of damage. Both were nerfs to these ships that were not overpowered. |

SiJira
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Posted - 2007.10.31 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Enve'la
Originally by: SiJira
wrong past history shows that what is overpowered gets nerfed what is not overpowered will not be nerfed no matter how many whines there are
Oh really troll? NOS and drones, while overpowered on specific ships(Dominix, Myrmidon), were not overpowered but essential on the majority of Amarr ships, which relied heavily on both to deal a respectable level of damage. Both were nerfs to these ships that were not overpowered.
only to those who dont actually fly them themselves and take others word for it 
woot ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.10.31 20:51:00 -
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Aaaaah...*waves hand at thread*
I dun care, where's my glass o whiskey? *looks around*
*takes a sip*
*leans back*
What else is new?
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