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Admiral Gylen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:24:00 - [1] Edited by: Admiral Gylen on 28/10/2007 08:35:33 Edited by: Admiral Gylen on 28/10/2007 08:25:49 So I've been flying a Sleipnir for level 4's. Awesome ship, btw. So far I've been using this setup: Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II 10MN Afterburner II Large Shield Booster II Cap Recharger II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II Medium Nosferatu I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I I can perma run the Afterburner, and Large Shield booster. So far, it's been doing ok in missions, but sometimes on harder missions there is leak through my shield regen rate (even though it's perma-ran). Now, what I am thinking is this... I have two options, and I need help deciding which would be best. Option 1) Swap out a Gyro or Power Diag System for a Damage Control and hope the added resists help out for tanking better. Keep the setup I have now, and be on my way. Option 2) Downgrade the 425's to 220's. DPS stays very smilimar, but has better tracking, and use an XL-Booster. There's no chance I'll run the XL booster permanently. But the ships bonus will give more of a bonus due to the higher booster per cycle. It costs twice the cap/second to run, but boosts twice as much. Would this option perhaps be better as long as I try and manage my cap? Option 3? Something I haven't thought of? Any ideas? P.S. I am not open to using cap booster charges for missioning. It's too much of a pain. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm not really an admiral, please don't hurt me!
Mekk Azal November Night Industries	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:39:00 - [2] Edited by: Mekk Azal on 28/10/2007 08:39:22 Have you considered to buy one of those faction X-Large boosters? They use the same cap as a Large Booster (maybe less) and gives you the boost of a XL one.
Admiral Gylen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 08:40:00 - [3] Edited by: Admiral Gylen on 28/10/2007 08:42:23 Yes, but I have nowhere near the funds to buy any uber faction booster. Aren't the XL-Gist-X like over a billion? I'm not really an admiral, please don't hurt me!
Ararius EP0CH Black Sun Cartel	Posted - 2007.10.28 09:27:00 - [4] Originally by: Admiral Gylen Edited by: Admiral Gylen on 28/10/2007 08:42:23 Yes, but I have nowhere near the funds to buy any uber faction booster. Aren't the XL-Gist-X like over a billion? Well the Gist boosters are quite expensive, but there are a number of (cheaper) faction/commander XL Boosters that give massive amounts of boost for a large amount of cap. tbh, what I would like to know what people who Pvp in Sleip's use. XL Booster or Large? Im ugly, just look at my face!
Cornette Gallente M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:25:00 - [5] You don't need to buy a expensive faction booster for a billion. I have on my PVP Sleipnir a Dread Gurista X-large Shield Booster that I bought for 100 mil. If you look around a little you should find them for between 100-150. Doing lvl 4's you should have no problem getting that isk relative quickly if you do a lot of them. The rest of your setup looks good for missions. //Cornette
NoRhustlaa	Posted - 2007.10.28 11:54:00 - [6] I think the skills shield compensation make your shield booster use less cap, max that skill for example, swap the cap recharger for a Shield boost amp II.
bldyannoyed Un4seen Development	Posted - 2007.10.28 12:01:00 - [7] Drop the afterburner and the autocannons. Fit a shield boost amp in place of the Afterburner and fit 720 artillery in place of the AC's. Voila, an extra 36% shield boost, and artillery are better for missions anyway.
Admiral Gylen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 21:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Ararius Originally by: Admiral Gylen Edited by: Admiral Gylen on 28/10/2007 08:42:23 Yes, but I have nowhere near the funds to buy any uber faction booster. Aren't the XL-Gist-X like over a billion? Well the Gist boosters are quite expensive, but there are a number of (cheaper) faction/commander XL Boosters that give massive amounts of boost for a large amount of cap. tbh, what I would like to know what people who Pvp in Sleip's use. XL Booster or Large? For PvP, XL booster for sure. Cap Injected and when in a firefight, you really want to be overboosting when you're getting pounded by multiple ships. I'm not really an admiral, please don't hurt me!
Admiral Gylen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 21:10:00 - [9] Originally by: bldyannoyed Drop the afterburner and the autocannons. Fit a shield boost amp in place of the Afterburner and fit 720 artillery in place of the AC's. Voila, an extra 36% shield boost, and artillery are better for missions anyway. Not a huge fan of artillery. Besides, I've specialized in Autocannons. I'm not really an admiral, please don't hurt me!
Admiral Gylen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 21:36:00 - [10] Originally by: NoRhustlaa I think the skills shield compensation make your shield booster use less cap, max that skill for example, swap the cap recharger for a Shield boost amp II. I've got Shield Compensation 4. Definately helps. I just wanted to know which would be better for PvE. A sustained Large Booster or a pulse XL Booster. I'm not really an admiral, please don't hurt me!
Akyla Bears Inc	Posted - 2007.10.28 21:40:00 - [11] Sustained. If it's enough that is. You'll be under fire the entire time and all that time you will have to concentrate on fighting rats too. One slip up and there you go... ________________________________ All your honey are belong to us!
Brazero Amarr Noble House	Posted - 2007.10.28 23:19:00 - [12] Can you really permarun a large booster and ab with that setup? I know I cant, all tho I can do it for a long time the cap finally dies. Even with shield comp 5. Originally by: Rodj Blake CCP are planning to give Amarrians some "oomph" Unfortunately, "oomph" is the sound one makes when kicked repeatedly in the ribs.
Admiral Gylen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 23:24:00 - [13] Normally, it's enough. The problem is when I get in trouble, it isn't. The thing is, in most situation, I am overboosting. I don't need to be running the booster permantly most situation... I'm just sitting there, at 100% regen. The only time I ever notice it isn't enough is when it slowly drops and my tank breaks. (Obviously) If I'm wasting energy booster when I don't need to, wouldn't be better to have more than needed (sometimes enough when normally I wouldn't) instead of having just enough or just below enough all the time? I understand your point of view on the having to pay attention part, but I'm starting to think it's more worth using an XL booster. I checked some stuff, and I can actually fit everything (minus the NOS) and keep my guns at 425s including a faction booster. I hope everything I said above makes sense. I'm just blabbering :p I'm not really an admiral, please don't hurt me!
Admiral Gylen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.28 23:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Brazero Can you really permarun a large booster and ab with that setup? I know I cant, all tho I can do it for a long time the cap finally dies. Even with shield comp 5. I can. I have both Cap skills (regen and capacity) at 5... With the 3 Power Diags, the cap recharger, and the rigs... I can easily keep everything going with 47/47.1 cap/second. I'm not really an admiral, please don't hurt me!
6Bagheera9 Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.10.29 01:00:00 - [15] I'd get a large faction booster and see how that works, they are cheaper than XL and the low-end DG/CN LSBs boost every 4 seconds as opposed to every 5 seconds for T2. Thats a 25% increase to tanked DPS, but they will also use more cap.
Admiral Gylen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.29 01:09:00 - [16] I think I'm gonna give that a shot, and see how it works. Using a Large Booster, think I'll be able to make use of the Med. Nosferatu or switch it out for a HAM. I'm not really an admiral, please don't hurt me!
Atius Tirawa Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.29 01:21:00 - [17] I will agree with an above poster however that for missions its a lot smarter to use Artillery. Of course, you will never be as fast as a NH or a Raven so I guess its all a matter of taste - even if I don't envy your ammo useage. -----------
Najenna Minmatar Caldari Deep Space Ventures	Posted - 2007.10.29 06:28:00 - [18] Edited by: Najenna on 29/10/2007 06:33:53 Quote: null Look man its really simple. So I am going to lay it on the line to you.. * HIGH SLOTS * 7x T2 720mm Howitzers' * MEDIUM SLOTS * 1x T2 or Better Large Shield Booster 1x T2 or Better 10mn After Burner 1x T2 or Better Medium Cap Injector ( Electrochemical) 1x T2 or Better Shield Boost Amplifier 1X T2 or Better Invul. Field. * LOW SLOTS * 1x T2 or Better R.C.U. 1x T2 or Better Power Diag. 3x T2 or Better Gyro Stabs. * RIGS * 1x Thermal Screen 1x Kinetic Screen * DRONES * 4x T2 Medium Rat Specific Types for the mission. *Note I use Cap Booster 400's.. I know alot of people like to use the 800 but you can only fit 1x 800 in a medium cap injector as to where you can use 2x with the 400's. Just my 2 cents tho. Now I can't permarun my shield booster but I have very nice resists and I hit hard also lvl 5 Meduim Art. Spec. FTW.. plus 2x 5% hardiwrings. If you have any Questions just leave remark here or Eve-mail me. Good Luck and Fly safe Mate. o/ Once you get this Robotech thing in your blood its there to stay...
bldyannoyed Un4seen Development	Posted - 2007.10.29 07:36:00 - [19] Ewwwwwwwwww, cap injector in a mission :( I used: 7x 720 II Pith X-type Large Booster, SBA II, 2x Invuln II, Cap Charger II 2x Rep Fleet Gyro, 3x PDS II 2x CCC And with a 5% cap recharge implant it was cap stable. As the OP has pointed out, a lot of the time you will be over boosting. But when you go into room 6 of AE or pick up full room aggro on the second part of Mordus Headhunters you will be glad of it.
Brazero Amarr Noble House	Posted - 2007.10.29 18:35:00 - [20] Originally by: bldyannoyed Ewwwwwwwwww, cap injector in a mission :( I used: 7x 720 II Pith X-type Large Booster, SBA II, 2x Invuln II, Cap Charger II 2x Rep Fleet Gyro, 3x PDS II 2x CCC And with a 5% cap recharge implant it was cap stable. As the OP has pointed out, a lot of the time you will be over boosting. But when you go into room 6 of AE or pick up full room aggro on the second part of Mordus Headhunters you will be glad of it. That 5% implant might do the trick, I don't have that one and there's no way I can permarun a large booster. I have a Pith A-type, all Pith boosters drains 160 cap, same as t2, and the cap dies. It's allmost there, but not quite. Fact is I can barely do this on a Nighthawk, and the Nighthawk has alot better cap than the Sleipnir. By doing this a have to sacrifice dmg for better cap. On both ships However, with 720mm there's really no need for an AB, the ship is fast as it is and that last med slot could be used for e better tank I guess. Originally by: Rodj Blake CCP are planning to give Amarrians some "oomph" Unfortunately, "oomph" is the sound one makes when kicked repeatedly in the ribs.
Admiral Gylen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.29 20:04:00 - [21] I don't understand why you're having so much trouble perma-running the large booster. 3 T2 Power Diagnostics 1 T2 Cap Recharger 2 T1 Cap Recharge Rigs Cap Recharge and Cap Capacity skills both at V. Hell, even without Shield Compensation, you could probably perma run it. I'm not really an admiral, please don't hurt me!

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