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MinmatarCitizen 9976
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:23:00 -
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Reverend Revelator
Elite Storm Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:25:00 -
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 28/10/2007 18:32:12
Edited by: MotherMoon on 28/10/2007 18:31:19
go fight a thoraxe in your assault ship.
I am a wolf pilot, I dare you to try.
ever try tanking POS guns? gate guns?
you won't have the damage to take out a well set up battleship.
if a battleship webs you you will die.
if ship ECMs you you won't be able to do anything.
If you get target painted by a raven and he fires cruise missiles you'll be gone in 3 volleys.
any other fast ship will kill you fast. the bombers for intance, own Assault ships.grated they are frigates as well :P
try fighting a HAC...
Get hit by a battleship sized nuet, then say your frigate is a I win button.
your cap is horrible in a wolf, or other such ships.
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Pedro Snachez
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:30:00 -
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If you can take out a Domi in any sort of frigate, you have officially won Eve. Congratulations.
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MinmatarCitizen 9976
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: MinmatarCitizen 9976 on 28/10/2007 18:35:30
I just feel bad for the other BS's....
A Domi solo kill is fantastic but, the other BS guys are in big trouble.
It is not that hard to kill drones.Domi does have somewhat of an advantage versus the frigate though. Takes a skilled pilot to pull it off versus a good domi pilot.
And quit Bull's##ing everyone , good frigate pilots have it ewasy in EVE online. The CCP spoonfeeding of us is getting old.
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Incantare
Caldari
Kernel of War
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:35:00 -
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 Originally by: MinmatarCitizen 9976
Frigate is easymode.
Let us talk about : what CCP could do to make this more challenging?
Lol. This makes me wonder, have you ever flown a frigate?
Webbed by a larger ship = dead frigate.
Neuted and droned (all sizes) = dead frigate.
Light drones = dead frigate.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: MinmatarCitizen 9976
Edited by: MinmatarCitizen 9976 on 28/10/2007 18:35:30
I just feel bad for the other BS's....
A Domi solo kill is fantastic but, the other BS guys are in big trouble.
It is not that hard to kill drones.Domi does have somewhat of an advantage versus the frigate though. Takes a skilled pilot to pull it off versus a good domi pilot.
And quit Bull's##ing everyone , good frigate pilots have it ewasy in EVE online. The CCP spoonfeeding of us is getting old.
I hope this is a joke post...
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Boomershoot
Caldari
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:37:00 -
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a frigate still can't pop cruisers (unless they are in superior number) and BC (frigate killing drakes  )
what so ever, frigates are fine
Originally by: 'CCP Nozh'
We did not expect the requests to prematurely end dear Zulupark's existence in this universe, some of which were *very* imaginative
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MinmatarCitizen 9976
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:37:00 -
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My Life revolves around getting 2 Rogues to look in my can!
Dead rogues
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Jita Alt
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:38:00 -
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I will give you 1 bil if you can kill my domi in a frig
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MinmatarCitizen 9976
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: MinmatarCitizen 9976 on 28/10/2007 18:39:31
Originally by: Jita Alt
I will give you 1 bil if you can kill my domi in a frig
I want 200bil or it is not even woth my time.
I can ransome 1bil !!!
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:39:00 -
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plus may I add. fighting anything smaller than a battleship and it will be harder in a frigate.
yes that's right, bigger ships have issues when fighting small ships.
welcome to the logic that is what all RTSs use.
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MinmatarCitizen 9976
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
plus may I add. fighting anything smaller than a battleship and it will be harder in a frigate.
yes that's right, bigger ships have issues when fighting small ships.
welcome to the logic that is what all RTSs use.
I never seen a Japanese Frigate solo the Mighty Missouri
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Jita Alt
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: MinmatarCitizen 9976
Edited by: MinmatarCitizen 9976 on 28/10/2007 18:39:31
Originally by: Jita Alt
I will give you 1 bil if you can kill my domi in a frig
I want 200bil or it is not even woth my time.
I can ransome 1bil !!!
Fine, 200bil then, won't have to way anyway so who cares
Of course if you die you'd have to pay me 200 bil 
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Boomershoot
Caldari
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
plus may I add. fighting anything smaller than a battleship and it will be harder in a frigate.
yes that's right, bigger ships have issues when fighting small ships.
welcome to the logic that is what all RTSs use.
too bad, i wish i had at least 25 m3 to fit 5 warriors II... wait, what?
Originally by: 'CCP Nozh'
We did not expect the requests to prematurely end dear Zulupark's existence in this universe, some of which were *very* imaginative
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Dirk Magnum
Red Light Enterprises
Eastern Star Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:42:00 -
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This thread makes me feel a little better that I didn't try to take on that Vexor with my Jag the other day. MotherMoon and some other posters in this thread are all absolutely correct. Frigates on their own are only good in a few situations (although they can be used in any system 0.1+ for ratting without trouble, usually), but when grouped in a fleet their versatility overcomes their individual vulnerability, and this means they are working as intended, I'd say.
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pain supplier
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:42:00 -
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troll thread
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Boomershoot
Originally by: MotherMoon
plus may I add. fighting anything smaller than a battleship and it will be harder in a frigate.
yes that's right, bigger ships have issues when fighting small ships.
welcome to the logic that is what all RTSs use.
too bad, i wish i had at least 25 m3 to fit 5 warriors II... wait, what?
I never said it would be possible to kill a battleship in a frigate :P
just that fighting a battleship in a frigate is not as bad as fighting a cruiser.
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MinmatarCitizen 9976
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Boomershoot
Originally by: MotherMoon
plus may I add. fighting anything smaller than a battleship and it will be harder in a frigate.
yes that's right, bigger ships have issues when fighting small ships.
welcome to the logic that is what all RTSs use.
too bad, i wish i had at least 25 m3 to fit 5 warriors II... wait, what?
I never said it would be possible to kill a battleship in a frigate :P
just that fighting a battleship in a frigate is not as bad as fighting a cruiser.
Turret tracking needs to be revisited and revamped.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.28 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: MinmatarCitizen 9976
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Boomershoot
Originally by: MotherMoon
plus may I add. fighting anything smaller than a battleship and it will be harder in a frigate.
yes that's right, bigger ships have issues when fighting small ships.
welcome to the logic that is what all RTSs use.
too bad, i wish i had at least 25 m3 to fit 5 warriors II... wait, what?
I never said it would be possible to kill a battleship in a frigate :P
just that fighting a battleship in a frigate is not as bad as fighting a cruiser.
Turret tracking needs to be revisited and revamped.
meaning what?
the design in mind was that... OMG I figured it out!
you lost a domi to a frigate!!
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MinmatarCitizen 9976
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Posted - 2007.10.28 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: MinmatarCitizen 9976 on 28/10/2007 19:01:26
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: MinmatarCitizen 9976
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Boomershoot
Originally by: MotherMoon
plus may I add. fighting anything smaller than a battleship and it will be harder in a frigate.
yes that's right, bigger ships have issues when fighting small ships.
welcome to the logic that is what all RTSs use.
too bad, i wish i had at least 25 m3 to fit 5 warriors II... wait, what?
I never said it would be possible to kill a battleship in a frigate :P
just that fighting a battleship in a frigate is not as bad as fighting a cruiser.
Turret tracking needs to be revisited and revamped.
meaning what?
the design in mind was that... OMG I figured it out!
you lost a domi to a frigate!!
I never have piloted Galente ships...
I just felt sorry for the Domi's
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.28 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: MinmatarCitizen 9976
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: MinmatarCitizen 9976
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Boomershoot
Originally by: MotherMoon
plus may I add. fighting anything smaller than a battleship and it will be harder in a frigate.
yes that's right, bigger ships have issues when fighting small ships.
welcome to the logic that is what all RTSs use.
too bad, i wish i had at least 25 m3 to fit 5 warriors II... wait, what?
I never said it would be possible to kill a battleship in a frigate :P
just that fighting a battleship in a frigate is not as bad as fighting a cruiser.
Turret tracking needs to be revisited and revamped.
meaning what?
the design in mind was that... OMG I figured it out!
you lost a domi to a frigate!!
I never have piloted Galente ships...
well you lost something, I agree with a lot of the above, We want to see kill mails!!
you do have the kill mail don't you???
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Jita Alt
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Posted - 2007.10.28 19:02:00 -
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Did you just smoke a whole bunch of cat p00p?
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Wild Rho
Amarr
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.10.28 19:09:00 -
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Edited by: Wild Rho on 28/10/2007 19:10:01
Originally by: MinmatarCitizen 9976
From what I can tell Frigates are the answer to everything.
Things the humble frigate is NOT the answer to...
- POS Assaults
- Setting up/maintaing POS networks
- Tanking Sentry Fire
- Mining
- Bulk freight transport
- Engaging cruiser/battleship roaming gangs
- Fleet warfare (admittedly they have a role in it but are not the ANSWER to it)
- Remote repair work
- Gang support (edit: with regards to mindlinks here)
- Level 4 missions
- Level 5 missions
- Tackling super capitals
Frigates have a number of roles in Eve like every other ship. However seeing the OP mention how they are too versatile I can't help but think this is supposed to be some sort of stealth whine/dig about the recent carrier drama.
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Cipher7
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.28 19:32:00 -
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"frigates are overpowered!"
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.10.28 19:34:00 -
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Tarminic, is that you?
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Atama Cardel
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.28 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Boomershoot
a frigate still can't pop cruisers (unless they are in superior number) and BC (frigate killing drakes )
what so ever, frigates are fine
I've killed multiple cruisers and once a battlecruiser (I was with a wingman though) solo in a rifter....
Originally by: Odda
hey im a gonnie and i like to sue CCP to gett the game to my favor
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
STK Scientific
Black-Out
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Posted - 2007.10.28 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution
Tarminic, is that you?
Waaaaay too short to be a Tarminic post imho.
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2007.10.28 20:24:00 -
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This is a carrier "nerf" whine in very thin disguise.
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Snake Doctor
MacroIntel
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.10.28 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: MinmatarCitizen 9976
Edited by: MinmatarCitizen 9976 on 28/10/2007 18:27:25
Im just asking a question here. I am not asking for flames.
From what I can tell Frigates are the answer to everything. This is true especialy for low-medium skilled pilots.
I would like to see a Turret revamp. I can take out the best Dominix players in a Assault Frigate.
Frigate is easymode.
Let us talk about : what CCP could do to make this more challenging?
I can attest to taking out a domi in a hawk. I've done it twice.... But I've lost about 4 of them fighting with other ships.
The point about frigates being versatile is that they are SUPPOSED to be. All ships have their weaknesses. It just so happens that AF's with decent range play on the weaknesses of a Domi. I've never heard of anyone going 1v1 with a Mega or a Hyp in a Hawk and winning, but with a little patience, good piloting and some luck, a Domi has no chance.
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