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John Arrow
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Posted - 2004.02.27 13:30:00 -
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I d like the ability to lock a can for specific ppl, when i m mining and see an ore thief comin i would just told to my floating can "Prevent xxx from taking anything from you".
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2004.02.27 13:51:00 -
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its called a secure can.
give the password to those ppl you want to take from it. -----
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John Arrow
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Posted - 2004.02.27 13:59:00 -
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u don t get what i mean. If you have to name who you exclude, you can t protect what s in your can from all people in eve.
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Burga Galti
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Posted - 2004.02.27 14:04:00 -
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I think I see your point, you want to replace the current secure cans with another system. One where instead of blocking everyone who you want to have access, you allow everyone access but those you block. That way if you are afk mining and someone sneaks up on you they can steal the ore.
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Kilostream
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Posted - 2004.02.28 12:44:00 -
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Someone made a point in another post along this lines, and I think it's valid.
Normal cans are NOT secure - we all know they are not secure, but are open to everyone.
Therefore you have to treat what is in the can as not being yours, but being like a 20 dollar bill on the floor that you have dropped.
You know where you dropped it, so you have best chance of getting back to it and picking it back up - but you can't whinge if someone else happens along and finds it.
The moment you want to lock ANYONE out of your can - it's become a secure container. You know where to get them!
Easy now,
Kilo^_^
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.02.28 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Baldour Ngarr on 28/02/2004 15:37:31
Quote: Therefore you have to treat what is in the can as not being yours, but being like a 20 dollar bill on the floor that you have dropped.
You know where you dropped it, so you have best chance of getting back to it and picking it back up - but you can't whinge if someone else happens along and finds it.
bad example: technically in law, that 20 dollar bill is still yours, and anyone else who picks it up is a thief. I know you'd never be able to get a conviction, but technically, he is a thief.
Anyone taking ore out of your jettison can is NOT a thief, because stuff in your jettison can has not been "dropped" - it's been deliberately thrown away as trash.
A better IRL example would be the chair that you took to the rubbish tip because you don't want it any more, and then went back to pick up again a week later and found it wasn't there. Try complaining to the police about THAT and see how much they laugh at you.
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John Arrow
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Posted - 2004.02.28 16:49:00 -
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what i m trying to explain is that i d like an explicit exclusion system implemented on the common floating can, let s say you can put 5 locks on a can, that means you can prevent 5 different people from taking things from it. You would have to select explicitly who you don t want to take stuff from the can, that would still allow ore thieves to steal in band, but would prevent lone ore thief to operate.
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Lady Galadriel
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Posted - 2004.02.28 17:19:00 -
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its not your can - rtfm
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Gneut
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Posted - 2004.02.28 17:29:00 -
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well currently the secure cans hold way too small ammount for any decent mining. And forget about trying to move the 5 or 6 hugh secure cans you'd need to be able to mine for even an hour. We need a new system for this. BTW if you drop a 20 on the ground right next to you and somebody picks it up you can beat the crap out of him legally because he knowingly stole it from you. The difference is if you know whose it is before you pick it up. If you actually know and they know that you knew then it's grounds for a case of theift which is upholdable in court. I find most people opposed to this move are actually ore theifts in game :P
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John Arrow
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Posted - 2004.02.28 17:30:00 -
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If it s not my can why i am the only person able to rename it?
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Vinduress
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:07:00 -
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I agree that at least there should be some better solution to the normal can problem than the current secure cans. What I'd like to see is a -realistic- assembly/disassembly size difference, so that you essentially keep the sides of a can in your hold taken apart, then jet them, and set them up in space. This way, you can still fit a nice fat amount of ore in a locking can (in whatever way, explicit or implicit), and not have to fly around for half an hour just to drop of a few cans that are 5k away from everything, making them bloody inconvenient. The disadvantage to this is that you'd have to make a seperate trip for your can after you were done mining, but who the hell cares? |
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