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Luna Nilaya Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:32:00 - [1] I recently took a part in a fight that for a change wasn't horrible lagfest and noticed how quickly the ones were killed who's character name was near the top of the overview and this got me thinking about what could be done to this problem. I'm pretty sure I'm not the first one to suggest this but I think that players should be able to hide their names from other players in the overview (atleast in 0.0). It could also make people to spread their fire on the field. Of course you could still see them in the overview and see what they're flying just not the name. I might be missing something here so I'd like to know what others think about this.
Eleana Tomelac Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:40:00 - [2] We would see what? Ship type? Ship names? I remember a gang where we were all named 'PAMELA ANDERSON'. This was for scan purposes... And to get some effect of surprise while the guy scanning wonders what is this bunch of idiot approaching... (not too sure, the fleet commander did not reveal all naming secrets ) Just to say that everyone would name his ship the same in a fleet. Mostly in fleetfights, primary can't be given by broadcasts because it is too laggy, we do it by voice, may it be teamspeak or ventrillo... (Never had a fleet in eve voice, but not knowing what happens when you get disconnected discourages up from trying) -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast ! Say hello to my tiny friends !
Luna Nilaya Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:49:00 - [3] Originally by: Eleana Tomelac We would see what? Ship type? Ship names? Maybe just blank or "Hidden". Originally by: Eleana Tomelac Just to say that everyone would name his ship the same in a fleet. Mostly in fleetfights, primary can't be given by broadcasts because it is too laggy, we do it by voice, may it be teamspeak or ventrillo... (Never had a fleet in eve voice, but not knowing what happens when you get disconnected discourages up from trying) Well that was one of my points. If the primary is unclear people would spread their fire more which would make battles longer and less annoying.
Cailais Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:44:00 - [4] Originally by: Luna Nilaya Originally by: Eleana Tomelac We would see what? Ship type? Ship names? Maybe just blank or "Hidden". Originally by: Eleana Tomelac Just to say that everyone would name his ship the same in a fleet. Mostly in fleetfights, primary can't be given by broadcasts because it is too laggy, we do it by voice, may it be teamspeak or ventrillo... (Never had a fleet in eve voice, but not knowing what happens when you get disconnected discourages up from trying) Well that was one of my points. If the primary is unclear people would spread their fire more which would make battles longer and less annoying. This might work, if you only saw ship class (e.g Battleship). It would probably only cause a slight delay though, eventually primaries would be called (e.g there's only 1 BS). C. Piratise Low Sec! or Eve on Hard Mode (idea)
Aarla	Posted - 2007.10.30 18:46:00 - [5] in fleet battle , some ships are taken out before others , like Scorpions , Blackbird , logistic ships and some others. the reason ships pop fast is that you got a good fleetcommander that are on "teamspeak" and select targets , that everyone shoot at first. in fleetbattle if you snooze , you loose and fly away in a pod if lucky.
acompton Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.30 20:10:00 - [6] Edited by: acompton on 30/10/2007 20:11:11 Originally by: Aarla in fleet battle , some ships are taken out before others , like Scorpions , Blackbird , logistic ships and some others. the reason ships pop fast is that you got a good fleetcommander that are on "teamspeak" and select targets , that everyone shoot at first. in fleetbattle if you snooze , you loose and fly away in a pod if lucky. OMG a "aa" like you is not signing on for this? PLEASE MAKE IT SO.. Entry # 1 in the 'creating your new character guide for newbs' should be 1) don't start a character name with an "a" you will die (often)... A couple of months into the game after I figured this out I petitioned to have my name changed because it is 'actually a Swahili swear word and I have unintentionally been insulting people'. No dice +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ All the cool kids have Mickey Mouse ears....
Kvarium Ki Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 20:57:00 - [7] I like this idea, there is no reason to have the name of people in the overview anymore. Broadcasts are used to find gangmates so you don't need the overview to find them.
achoura	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Kvarium Ki I like this idea, there is no reason to have the name of people in the overview anymore. Broadcasts are used to find gangmates so you don't need the overview to find them. broadcasts are incapable of keeping up pace in 500 man fights. I appreciate the reasoning but all this would do to me and the thousands of players i know is create more difficulties and a good ui does not do that. No a side not i am interested, if the op does not want names only types on his overview why does he not simply set his up to show that (he does know how to do that doesn't he?). Just because it suits your play style does not mean it suits everyones, the mechanics are in place for you to configure it the way that suits you best, why not do that rather than ask ccp to remove the option for everyone?
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:24:00 - [9] Nothing can keep up in 500 person fleet fights... But it is a good idea.
Luna Nilaya Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 21:40:00 - [10] Originally by: achoura Originally by: Kvarium Ki I like this idea, there is no reason to have the name of people in the overview anymore. Broadcasts are used to find gangmates so you don't need the overview to find them. No a side not i am interested, if the op does not want names only types on his overview why does he not simply set his up to show that (he does know how to do that doesn't he?). Just because it suits your play style does not mean it suits everyones, the mechanics are in place for you to configure it the way that suits you best, why not do that rather than ask ccp to remove the option for everyone? What?! It's not about what I want to see, It's about what I don't want others to see. Read the post again.
Draygo Korvan Merch Industrial	Posted - 2007.10.30 22:46:00 - [11] The op idea is terrible. All this will mean is FC's will have everyone enable tags and he will just start tagging battleships instead. If you have an A name, fit a better buffer (more effective hp) and maybe FC's won't call alpha order (sure in a fleet fight you still might be instantly melted). Trying to make the system more difficult wont stop primarying, FC's will just find a different way to focus fire.
Cailais Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.31 00:48:00 - [12] I dont think that this would work: But something like this might...(ignore the colour tags for now) You'd have to remove the option to view objects by type (otherwise the FC could just call top, bottom etc), an allow only view by range. FC: Battleship is Primary!!! Player: which one!!!??? C. Piratise Low Sec! or Eve on Hard Mode (idea)
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2007.10.31 00:54:00 - [13] OMG, a goon has copied my idea Well, actually that's a good thing. I'm tired of posting it over and over. Nice pictures! The one only showing BS, commandship, cruiser etc is basicly exactly what I've suggested. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Meepie	Posted - 2007.10.31 01:26:00 - [14] I'm the awful idea in the OP.
Daelin Blackleaf Aliastra	Posted - 2007.10.31 05:22:00 - [15] Aaron Aaronson approves of this product and/or service.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Blood Corsair's	Posted - 2007.10.31 07:15:00 - [16] Originally by: Luna Nilaya I recently took a part in a fight that for a change wasn't horrible lagfest and noticed how quickly the ones were killed who's character name was near the top of the overview and this got me thinking about what could be done to this problem. I'm pretty sure I'm not the first one to suggest this but I think that players should be able to hide their names from other players in the overview (atleast in 0.0). It could also make people to spread their fire on the field. Of course you could still see them in the overview and see what they're flying just not the name. I might be missing something here so I'd like to know what others think about this. Nerf the alphabet. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I

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