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Rogue 2
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:42:00 -
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OK. Seems like most of the skills I can train talk about reducing CPU. What I really need is a way to reduce powergrid reqs (already have Engineering 5). What skills should I train as an Amarr to get my energy reqs down? Assume the following setup (I hit a lower power warning with just 3 pulses and SAR+Heat Sink):
High Slot: 3x Medium Pulse Laser II, 1x Rocket Launcher
Med Slot: 1x 20km+ scrambler (J5B+), Webifier and 1MN AB II
Low Slot: 1x Small Armor Repairer II, Energized Thermic Membrane II, 1x Heat Sink II
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:49:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 31/10/2007 04:50:59
AWU up to 5
PG2/PG4/PG8 implant
Energy Management 4 and fit MAPC if still not enough
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Allestin Villimar
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Posted - 2007.10.31 05:57:00 -
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Isn't energy management a capacitor skill?
But yeah, advanced weapon upgrades 5 should give a 10% hit to power fitting costs, you can also use power diagnostic systems or reactor control units to increase your total powergrid. I think there's something like an Ancillary Current rig that also does it.
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Annowyn
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 06:45:00 -
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AWU 5 is great, but it will take you a month and a half to get it. Have you tried powergrid hardwiring? +3% cost about 15 mil and +5%s closer to 100 mil.
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Wayward Hooligan
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.10.31 06:55:00 -
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AWU 5 should take less than 30 days if you have decent learning skills trained and some cheap +3's.
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Annowyn
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 06:59:00 -
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Sure bud. If you are willpower and perception heavy then yeah. But otherwise AWU from 4 to 5 takes just under 4 weeks.
Assuming you have weapon upgrades 4 atm.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.10.31 07:27:00 -
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 Originally by: Allestin Villimar
Isn't energy management a capacitor skill?
MAPC meta4
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2007.10.31 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Wayward Hooligan
AWU 5 should take less than 30 days if you have decent learning skills trained and some cheap +3's.
Originally by: Annowyn
Sure bud. If you are willpower and perception heavy then yeah. But otherwise AWU from 4 to 5 takes just under 4 weeks.
Assuming you have weapon upgrades 4 atm.
4 weeks = 28 days
28 is less than 30.
Why are you two arguing?
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Annowyn
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 10:25:00 -
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Cause ya need another 14ish to fo from basic upgrades 4 to 5. :)
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente
Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 12:00:00 -
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These are the ways to improve powergrid.
Engineering (+5%/level)
Advanced Weapon Upgrades (-2% turret/missile PG use/level)
Shield Upgrades (-5% shield upgrade PG use/level, I doubt it'll be useful on an Amarr ship though)
Micro Auxilliary Power Core (+10 to +12 powergrid, depending on meta level)
Reactor control unit (+10% PG, 15% if T2, up to 18.6% with officer)
Power Diagnostic System (+5% PG (+7.5% for faction), cap and shield boni)
Ancillary Current Router (+10% PG, rig, about 30M, but I could be wrong).
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Rogue 2
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.31 14:39:00 -
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Awesome. Thanks everyone. For some reason I thought I had Advanced Weaps to 4 but when I checked it was only 1  . The comments about APC's also helped. Consider my dilemma solved :)
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.31 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rogue 2
OK. Seems like most of the skills I can train talk about reducing CPU. What I really need is a way to reduce powergrid reqs (already have Engineering 5). What skills should I train as an Amarr to get my energy reqs down? Assume the following setup (I hit a lower power warning with just 3 pulses and SAR+Heat Sink):
High Slot: 3x Medium Pulse Laser II, 1x Rocket Launcher
Med Slot: 1x 20km+ scrambler (J5B+), Webifier and 1MN AB II
Low Slot: 1x Small Armor Repairer II, Energized Thermic Membrane II, 1x Heat Sink II
You use medium pulses which are hardest small gun to fit on a frig by far. Reduce to dual pulses if you need... (and never try to fit medium beams on a frig... it_doesnt_work).
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Rogue 2
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.31 15:14:00 -
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Thanks for the tip. That'll give me some "now" damage while I work up my powergrid skills.
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.31 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ortu Konsinni on 31/10/2007 17:03:10
I'm just kinda wondering what ship the setup in the first post was for. I'm guessing Vengeance? Or maybe Malediction, although I doubt that.
Edit: never mind actually, I just remembered the Vengeance got a 4th low slot a while ago as well... so is it a Malediction setup?
Either way, you might be happy to learn that with their bonuses changed a month or two ago, both Vengeance and Malediction are now missile boats (rockets, specifically), and rocket launchers are a lot easier to fit than laser guns.
I know you can still fit both of them with guns if you want, but then you won't get any bonuses. Just a heads-up.
Never mind me if the setup was for neither a Malediction nor a Vengeance, although I can't think of another Amarr frigate with a 4/3/3 setup.
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