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WowZilla The Leeroy Jenkins Project	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:16:00 - [1] So like I trained this ship and t2 autocannons because I thought it would wtfbbq everything, I mean all the cries to nerf it must mean thats its an overpowered ship. right? Guess what? I'm struggling to kill everything I encounter. I sit near a gate and can tackle ships coming through, but they always slow boat it back to the gate. wtf? If i fit a webber to stop him I have to go close and they own me cos I have no tank. I find a ratting BS in belt and think yumyum, hes dead, but he Nuets me and I'm a sitting duck and a sad panda :( If he doesnt have a Neut then Yay! I think I can keeel him, but no, he just sets his drones after me!! No problem I think, I'll just activate mwd and whoosh those drones cant catch me, but then I cant hit him cos i'm going too fast :( Even if do get in a good position where he doesnt have drones or Nos It takes me 4EVA to kill him cos my dps is so poor! :( Then his rapier mates can come along and I have to run! Its not fair, I trained this ship cos I thought it would own but it doesnt. Please CCP, boost the vaga. Give it 3 missile slots, a bigger drone bay and more mids for more shield extenders. Whilst your at it, nerf the cerb cos they keep owning me when I try and kill them. and rapiers. and Neuts. kthxbye. ____________________ I am the worst poster
Syfilis	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:18:00 - [2] your sig owns u
Annowyn Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:20:00 - [3] Originally by: WowZilla I find a ratting BS in belt and think yumyum, hes dead, but he Nuets me and I'm a sitting duck and a sad panda :(
Ask Unbeatable Gallente HighTech Marines Ltd. FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:20:00 - [4] So funny. Cant stop laughing. Really. Bet some people will take the bait and flame you though.
Rowl Arak Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:22:00 - [5] Edited by: Rowl Arak on 31/10/2007 11:31:27 Edited by: Rowl Arak on 31/10/2007 11:30:30 On second thought, I will edit this one and try to make some sense out of it... Since i'm a little biased, im not sure if this is a mockery of the Amarr "protesters" if you will, or if it's a stab in the general direction of the instant gratification desiring populous who thinks there is an almighty solo pwnmobile only to be disappointed and point the finger at CCP (hey we've all seen 'em). Anyhow, thats what I got out of it.
WowZilla The Leeroy Jenkins Project	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:25:00 - [6] Originally by: Syfilis your sig owns u your alt name pwns u ____________________ I am the worst poster
Arkanjuca Caldari The Undertakers Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:27:00 - [7] Edited by: Arkanjuca on 31/10/2007 11:27:52 -- "Tackling you in the system next door"
elorran Minmatar Department of Defence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:27:00 - [8]
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:28:00 - [9] /me golf claps You pointed out some serious issues... I'm assuming that this is a sarcastic post, too. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Speed Addict	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:28:00 - [10] Originally by: WowZilla Originally by: Syfilis your sig owns u your alt name pwns u well thats my alt and im the alt of the dude in my sig so do i have a good excuse now? - - - Hi Speed Devil You are receiving this notice to inform you that your posting privileges have now been permanently terminated. now don't blame me for altposting :(
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:29:00 - [11] my sacrcasm-o-meter just exploded in my face --- planetary interaction idea!
WowZilla The Leeroy Jenkins Project	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:32:00 - [12] Originally by: elorran Your post is full of win. Tho did I pwn u in a vaga once? Doubtful as they dont pwn. ____________________ I am the worst poster
WowZilla The Leeroy Jenkins Project	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:34:00 - [13] Originally by: Grimpak my sacrcasm-o-meter just exploded in my face why? I'm being deadly serious. Honestly. Just like when I offered to lube demoria up once. Tho i did run when he accepted. ____________________ I am the worst poster
WowZilla The Leeroy Jenkins Project	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:39:00 - [14] Originally by: Rowl Arak Edited by: Rowl Arak on 31/10/2007 11:31:27 Edited by: Rowl Arak on 31/10/2007 11:30:30 On second thought, I will edit this one and try to make some sense out of it... Since i'm a little biased, im not sure if this is a mockery of the Amarr "protesters" if you will, or if it's a stab in the general direction of the instant gratification desiring populous who thinks there is an almighty solo pwnmobile only to be disappointed and point the finger at CCP (hey we've all seen 'em). Anyhow, thats what I got out of it. Comrade, It is neither, I'm all for buffing my amarrian brethren. Except the curse/pilgrim, man they pwn my vaga! Nerf them I say!! Oh hang on, they did, something to do with the 'Whine factor' on these very same forums. Geddit now? ____________________ I am the worst poster
Rowl Arak Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:45:00 - [15] Originally by: WowZilla Originally by: Rowl Arak Edited by: Rowl Arak on 31/10/2007 11:31:27 Edited by: Rowl Arak on 31/10/2007 11:30:30 On second thought, I will edit this one and try to make some sense out of it... Since i'm a little biased, im not sure if this is a mockery of the Amarr "protesters" if you will, or if it's a stab in the general direction of the instant gratification desiring populous who thinks there is an almighty solo pwnmobile only to be disappointed and point the finger at CCP (hey we've all seen 'em). Anyhow, thats what I got out of it. Comrade, It is neither, I'm all for buffing my amarrian brethren. Except the curse/pilgrim, man they pwn my vaga! Nerf them I say!! Oh hang on, they did, something to do with the 'Whine factor' on these very same forums. Geddit now? I do now. I was close. Kind of.
Sadayiel Caldari Dragon Highlords THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.10.31 11:55:00 - [16] Edited by: Sadayiel on 31/10/2007 11:55:42 drop the nanos, and fit a real tank like mos of hacs does if you wish to be omgzooom!! and still deal dmg get in a crow. hrmm what the hell was that of i tried to post with a character that does not belong to me!! CCp spy me!!
M00dy Killed In Action	Posted - 2007.10.31 12:00:00 - [17] I agree with the OP. The vaga sucks. Needs boost. RATatatatata
XrayZ Euphoria Foundation	Posted - 2007.10.31 12:09:00 - [18] nothing needs boosting. everything is good as it is... allthou CCP doesnt think so, so soon we will all be pimpin¦ around with officer fitted rookie ships. --------------------------------------
Madla Mafia The Dead Man's Hand	Posted - 2007.10.31 13:05:00 - [19] Originally by: WowZilla So like I trained this ship and t2 autocannons because I thought it would wtfbbq everything, I mean all the cries to nerf it must mean thats its an overpowered ship. right? Guess what? I'm struggling to kill everything I encounter. I sit near a gate and can tackle ships coming through, but they always slow boat it back to the gate. wtf? If i fit a webber to stop him I have to go close and they own me cos I have no tank. I find a ratting BS in belt and think yumyum, hes dead, but he Nuets me and I'm a sitting duck and a sad panda :( If he doesnt have a Neut then Yay! I think I can keeel him, but no, he just sets his drones after me!! No problem I think, I'll just activate mwd and whoosh those drones cant catch me, but then I cant hit him cos i'm going too fast :( Even if do get in a good position where he doesnt have drones or Nos It takes me 4EVA to kill him cos my dps is so poor! :( Then his rapier mates can come along and I have to run! Its not fair, I trained this ship cos I thought it would own but it doesnt. Please CCP, boost the vaga. Give it 3 missile slots, a bigger drone bay and more mids for more shield extenders. Whilst your at it, nerf the cerb cos they keep owning me when I try and kill them. and rapiers. and Neuts. kthxbye. Dumb. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amarr - getting screwed since 2005.
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.31 14:08:00 - [20] Edited by: Drek Grapper on 31/10/2007 14:09:29 Edited by: Drek Grapper on 31/10/2007 14:09:08 Originally by: Grimpak my sacrcasm-o-meter just exploded in my face Yeah and the shrapnel hit me right in the kisser! ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
achoura	Posted - 2007.10.31 14:16:00 - [21] Vagas don't pwn (sadly) anything bigger than a cruiser, at least they wont solo, but the general hate towards vaga pilots has always been the "leg it" option of the ship. DPS on these things is usually around 350 which is pretty dam low for a tii cruiser, for comparison a thorax can achieve this with ti gear,a deimos will do 700 easy but everyone hates the ship they can't catch. Honestly if you manage to die to a solo vaga in a ratting bs you suck badly. Nice try btw , the forum pvpers are already flocking lol.
VJ Maverick Caldari Maverick Specialized Services	Posted - 2007.10.31 14:59:00 - [22] Originally by: WowZilla So like I trained this ship and t2 autocannons because I thought it would wtfbbq everything, I mean all the cries to nerf it must mean thats its an overpowered ship. right? Guess what? I'm struggling to kill everything I encounter. I sit near a gate and can tackle ships coming through, but they always slow boat it back to the gate. wtf? If i fit a webber to stop him I have to go close and they own me cos I have no tank. I find a ratting BS in belt and think yumyum, hes dead, but he Nuets me and I'm a sitting duck and a sad panda :( If he doesnt have a Neut then Yay! I think I can keeel him, but no, he just sets his drones after me!! No problem I think, I'll just activate mwd and whoosh those drones cant catch me, but then I cant hit him cos i'm going too fast :( Even if do get in a good position where he doesnt have drones or Nos It takes me 4EVA to kill him cos my dps is so poor! :( Then his rapier mates can come along and I have to run! Its not fair, I trained this ship cos I thought it would own but it doesnt. Please CCP, boost the vaga. Give it 3 missile slots, a bigger drone bay and more mids for more shield extenders. Whilst your at it, nerf the cerb cos they keep owning me when I try and kill them. and rapiers. and Neuts. kthxbye. Every whine about this ship says that the Vaga can kill EVERYTHING! Are you telling me it's not true? Am I wasting my time training for one? I really wanted to go titan hunting and POS busting with this thing. Originally by: Bodhisattvas by the way you keep on missing the "a" from pwn, do you need any help with its pl
Commander Thrawn Fluffy Rabbit Killers Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.10.31 15:04:00 - [23] Originally by: elorran BEST QUOTE OF THE DAY
Exlegion Caldari New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.31 15:05:00 - [24] Originally by: elorran You win . One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.31 15:11:00 - [25] Edited by: arbalesttom on 31/10/2007 15:12:18 Originally by: WowZilla So like I trained this ship and t2 autocannons because I thought it would wtfbbq everything, I mean all the cries to nerf it must mean thats its an overpowered ship. right? Guess what? I'm struggling to kill everything I encounter. I sit near a gate and can tackle ships coming through, but they always slow boat it back to the gate. wtf? If i fit a webber to stop him I have to go close and they own me cos I have no tank. I find a ratting BS in belt and think yumyum, hes dead, but he Nuets me and I'm a sitting duck and a sad panda :( If he doesnt have a Neut then Yay! I think I can keeel him, but no, he just sets his drones after me!! No problem I think, I'll just activate mwd and whoosh those drones cant catch me, but then I cant hit him cos i'm going too fast :( Even if do get in a good position where he doesnt have drones or Nos It takes me 4EVA to kill him cos my dps is so poor! :( Then his rapier mates can come along and I have to run! Its not fair, I trained this ship cos I thought it would own but it doesnt. Please CCP, boost the vaga. Give it 3 missile slots, a bigger drone bay and more mids for more shield extenders. Whilst your at it, nerf the cerb cos they keep owning me when I try and kill them. and rapiers. and Neuts. kthxbye. Maybe stop whining and fit a tank? The ship is fast even without pimped polycarbon and od setup. Fit a tank and be able to kill something. Mkay? Edit: and yeah, even if your trolling, shut up, because teh vaga needs a NARFFFFFFF. ========================= Weko Hast > fill a domi up with light suicide drones and drone navigation links arbalesttom > rofl!!! emo-drones? DONT REMOVE MY SIGGIES!!! ===========
Arvald Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.10.31 15:42:00 - [26] --------------------------- Originally by: eddie valvetino little small voice in the back of my head i've ignored all summer now screams "BLOW SOMETHING UP!!!!!!!!! MOTHER ******!!!!!!"
WowZilla The Leeroy Jenkins Project	Posted - 2007.10.31 15:46:00 - [27] Originally by: arbalesttom Maybe stop whining and fit a tank? The ship is fast even without pimped polycarbon and od setup. Fit a tank and be able to kill something. Mkay? Edit: and yeah, even if your trolling, shut up, because teh vaga needs a NARFFFFFFF. Yeh well I tried fitting a 1600 plate and twin medium reppers with ancillary power grids in it, but a punisher caught me, webbed me and killed me. Seriously, if you think you can fit a tank on a vaga and you think it needs nerfing then you really dont have any clue regarding eve ships, their roles, diversity, how they compliment each other, their weaknesses and their setup scope. You pwnd yourself - L2P and train forum sarcasm lvl I pls. ____________________ I am the worst poster
VJ Maverick Caldari Maverick Specialized Services	Posted - 2007.10.31 16:10:00 - [28] Originally by: arbalesttom Edited by: arbalesttom on 31/10/2007 15:12:18 Originally by: WowZilla So like I trained this ship and t2 autocannons because I thought it would wtfbbq everything, I mean all the cries to nerf it must mean thats its an overpowered ship. right? Guess what? I'm struggling to kill everything I encounter. I sit near a gate and can tackle ships coming through, but they always slow boat it back to the gate. wtf? If i fit a webber to stop him I have to go close and they own me cos I have no tank. I find a ratting BS in belt and think yumyum, hes dead, but he Nuets me and I'm a sitting duck and a sad panda :( If he doesnt have a Neut then Yay! I think I can keeel him, but no, he just sets his drones after me!! No problem I think, I'll just activate mwd and whoosh those drones cant catch me, but then I cant hit him cos i'm going too fast :( Even if do get in a good position where he doesnt have drones or Nos It takes me 4EVA to kill him cos my dps is so poor! :( Then his rapier mates can come along and I have to run! Its not fair, I trained this ship cos I thought it would own but it doesnt. Please CCP, boost the vaga. Give it 3 missile slots, a bigger drone bay and more mids for more shield extenders. Whilst your at it, nerf the cerb cos they keep owning me when I try and kill them. and rapiers. and Neuts. kthxbye. Maybe stop whining and fit a tank? The ship is fast even without pimped polycarbon and od setup. Fit a tank and be able to kill something. Mkay? Edit: and yeah, even if your trolling, shut up, because teh vaga needs a NARFFFFFFF. Maybe you need to fit a sense of humor because you clearly didn't get the OP's point. The OP is not whining about not being able to kill things. The OP is ridiculing all the other nerf whiners who say that the Vaga CAN kill everything, which it can't. Originally by: Bodhisattvas by the way you keep on missing the "a" from pwn, do you need any help with its pl
ViperVenom Labteck Corporation LTD. Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2007.10.31 16:48:00 - [29] This how i felt after i read the Carrier/Mom nerf... The Vaga is the best well i can't win let me Kite...Ship in EVE. SO its DPS suxs so what.. Boo CCP!!!!
Chromakey Dreamcoat Caldari Model Of Aggression	Posted - 2007.10.31 17:01:00 - [30] OP gets 3/10 for originality and 1/10 for delivery. The sarcasm mocks your intended audience but you could have made it more like a legitimate complaint instead of this rather obvious pretension.
WowZilla The Leeroy Jenkins Project	Posted - 2007.10.31 17:18:00 - [31] Originally by: Chromakey Dreamcoat OP gets 3/10 for originality and 1/10 for delivery. The sarcasm mocks your intended audience but you could have made it more like a legitimate complaint instead of this rather obvious pretension. Subjective reply, thats fine. heres mine. Here we have someone clearly from the 'nerf vaga because its overpowered and my 10m SP in missiles dont hurt them when they're going 5000m/s, even though they cant scratch me at the same time with their guns because they're going so fast' corner. ____________________ I am the worst poster
Arktiger Gallente The Flying Tigers	Posted - 2007.10.31 17:45:00 - [32] Originally by: Commander Thrawn Originally by: elorran BEST QUOTE OF THE DAY It's definately the OLDEST.
Chromakey Dreamcoat Caldari Model Of Aggression	Posted - 2007.10.31 18:07:00 - [33] That's funny that you have no idea what I was stating in my reply because I actually support the vagabond since I have a character that is a vagabond pilot.. with snakes even.
Mercykiller III Caldari Janissaries	Posted - 2007.11.01 09:03:00 - [34] vaga is good in small group engagements....not a soloship
BlatheBum Elite Storm Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.01 10:16:00 - [35] Originally by: elorran You, kind sir, win this thread and all of EvE with that picture. Congradulations .
Neena Valdi Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.11.01 10:19:00 - [36] ToOP: Solo pvp in EVE doesn't exist.
Ogdru Jahad Amarr War Dawgs	Posted - 2007.11.01 10:30:00 - [37] Originally by: WowZilla So like I trained this ship and t2 autocannons because I thought it would wtfbbq everything, I mean all the cries to nerf it must mean thats its an overpowered ship. right? Guess what? I'm struggling to kill everything I encounter. I sit near a gate and can tackle ships coming through, but they always slow boat it back to the gate. wtf? If i fit a webber to stop him I have to go close and they own me cos I have no tank. I find a ratting BS in belt and think yumyum, hes dead, but he Nuets me and I'm a sitting duck and a sad panda :( If he doesnt have a Neut then Yay! I think I can keeel him, but no, he just sets his drones after me!! No problem I think, I'll just activate mwd and whoosh those drones cant catch me, but then I cant hit him cos i'm going too fast :( Even if do get in a good position where he doesnt have drones or Nos It takes me 4EVA to kill him cos my dps is so poor! :( Then his rapier mates can come along and I have to run! Its not fair, I trained this ship cos I thought it would own but it doesnt. Please CCP, boost the vaga. Give it 3 missile slots, a bigger drone bay and more mids for more shield extenders. Whilst your at it, nerf the cerb cos they keep owning me when I try and kill them. and rapiers. and Neuts. kthxbye. A. Your a nub B. You brought your chr off of ebay or similar C. R.T.F.M. D. Time to get a clue E. All of the above - At last the Gallente can finally lay claim to saying... "my DICtor" is bigger than yours.
Jones Maloy Minmatar Unified Naval Command	Posted - 2007.11.02 00:27:00 - [38] Fyi, 390 dps will tear my rupture apart in 25 seconds plus or minus 10. I used 390 dps because that was a common number coming up in many threads. Added up all my ship's sheilds, armor, and structure. Divided that by the dps to see how many seconds it would take. Doubled that number as a shortcut to skip resists. Please realize not everyone flies BS 23/7. For a destroyer and cruiser pilot this thing is a murderer. and without stabs i can't run, so i just don't go into low-sec. One less weakling in prey on. I hope those pirates starve. --- WCS Nerf yes i'm still angry
Rane Javoke Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.02 01:33:00 - [39] thread added to personal collection due to : 1) OP beeing a cunning troll 2) large amounts of win 3) general flamethrowing and temperatures exceeding 9000 degrees 4) ??? 5) profit! Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit allowed on the forums. -Darth Patches Jeez, by 17 bytes
d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.02 01:37:00 - [40] Originally by: Neena Valdi ToOP: Solo pvp in EVE doesn't exist. except for vaga pilots.
Dianeces Minmatar Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.11.02 03:38:00 - [41] Originally by: d026 Originally by: Neena Valdi ToOP: Solo pvp in EVE doesn't exist. except for vaga pilots. Off with you, troll. Quote: Cristobalus DeMora > so what do the forums say? Jaleean Atheria > smack smack smack flame smack flame smack smack flame alt post flame flame flame smack flame click
SUNscatcher Caldari Pacificsun	Posted - 2007.11.02 04:30:00 - [42] Originally by: elorran One of the best answers i've ever seen on this or any other forum !!
Nuhsshun Takamoto	Posted - 2007.11.02 05:03:00 - [43] Gillante.... solo PVP it does exist... now i say buff bat everything else ant tell ccp to put the nerf bat down
Prevelance Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.11.02 06:11:00 - [44] I hear the vaga is getting a makeover anywho. Somthing like a 5/6/4 slot layout I beleive, which will openup new doors. Although 5/5/5 would be much better instead of loosing a bunch of dps and speed. So, kindof a nerf, but could be a buff for some.
WowZilla The Leeroy Jenkins Project	Posted - 2007.11.02 09:21:00 - [45] Edited by: WowZilla on 02/11/2007 09:21:36 Originally by: Rane Javoke thread added to personal collection due to : 1) OP beeing a cunning troll 2) large amounts of win 3) general flamethrowing and temperatures exceeding 9000 degrees 4) ??? 5) profit! Glad this guy and few others get the point of this post. As for the guys taking is seriously, well, seriously do you even read posts ? I was merely pointing out the flaws in the 'nerf vaga' brigade and that their reasoning is flawed. Vaga, at this time, is probably THE most balanced ship in the game. Any boost or nerf would ruin it entirely. To the post above, the slot changes you mentioned I believe were a photo shop windup. ______________________ I am the worst poster

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