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Ztrain Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.01 23:56:00 - [31] Originally by: Seonae 1/4th the capacity of a standard freighter no tank loses 10% of it's cargo capacity to carry isotopes for mid-to deep 0.0 travel takes over a month to have a chance at building Rorqual: going rate is 2.5bil? ~1/2 the space if fitted specifically for haulage tankable requires 1/3rd the isotopes for same distance traveled garunteed build every time TBH, you're better off saving up for a Titan and jump bridging real freighters around. Bingo. Reading over the nurfs I guess their trying to make a titan actually worth it again by nurfing all the other haulers so you need a titan bridge to be able to haul. Anyways some other things of note. For the T2 jump freighters it is a CHANCE of getting. A chance that unless you spend a year making a max run copy for the attempt you need to use a decryptor or are guaranteed a failure. So your going to have a horrible ME or reduced chance of sucess because without a data core your guaranteed a failure without a max run BPC. The next big thing is your going to be blowing 128 data cores PER ATTEMPT!!! Waste of resources for nothing in return. Build titans to be used with regular freighters. So CCP has effectively nurfed something that wasn't broken and surved up crap as the balence. The competition to EVE gets easier and easier each day. Z Originally by: CCP Zulupark That's the rough idea, yes. We still have in no way started thinking about what modules to introduce, what they would do or anything of the likes, but the idea is that.
Bu Jinkan Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 23:59:00 - [32] Originally by: Ztrain Originally by: Seonae 1/4th the capacity of a standard freighter no tank loses 10% of it's cargo capacity to carry isotopes for mid-to deep 0.0 travel takes over a month to have a chance at building Rorqual: going rate is 2.5bil? ~1/2 the space if fitted specifically for haulage tankable requires 1/3rd the isotopes for same distance traveled garunteed build every time TBH, you're better off saving up for a Titan and jump bridging real freighters around. Bingo. Reading over the nurfs I guess their trying to make a titan actually worth it again by nurfing all the other haulers so you need a titan bridge to be able to haul. You can't jump bridge freighters anymore, so it seems that CCP just doesn't like people hauling period.
Nizdaar Gallente STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2007.11.02 01:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Ztrain Anyways some other things of note. For the T2 jump freighters it is a CHANCE of getting. A chance that unless you spend a year making a max run copy for the attempt you need to use a decryptor or are guaranteed a failure. So your going to have a horrible ME or reduced chance of sucess because without a data core your guaranteed a failure without a max run BPC. Z As stated in my first post, the production limit on a tech 1 freighter is 1. A single run copy IS the max run.
Zen Tao Minmatar The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.02 19:22:00 - [34] Originally by: Bu Jinkan You can't jump bridge freighters anymore, so it seems that CCP just doesn't like people hauling period. Please elaborate .... !?
Seonae STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.11.02 20:01:00 - [35] Originally by: Zen Tao Originally by: Bu Jinkan You can't jump bridge freighters anymore, so it seems that CCP just doesn't like people hauling period. Please elaborate .... !? see this thread.... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=627120
Montaire Genbuku. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.02 22:51:00 - [36] That was a data error and is getting fixed. Scripts gone amok I say, AMOK! Originally by: Seonae Originally by: Zen Tao Originally by: Bu Jinkan You can't jump bridge freighters anymore, so it seems that CCP just doesn't like people hauling period. Please elaborate .... !? see this thread.... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=627120
Seonae STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.11.03 00:27:00 - [37] Originally by: Montaire That was a data error and is getting fixed. Scripts gone amok I say, AMOK! Originally by: Seonae Originally by: Zen Tao Originally by: Bu Jinkan You can't jump bridge freighters anymore, so it seems that CCP just doesn't like people hauling period. Please elaborate .... !? see this thread.... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=627120 Either I'm a lot more cynical than you, or you're a lot more naive than I am, either way I have an exceptionally hard time buying that it was an accident. If I were a betting man, I'd say they threw up there to see how people would react, and well.. they got their answer.
Montaire Genbuku. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.03 00:55:00 - [38] Perhaps, or I may know some thing that you do not. (oooh, mysterious) In reality I dont have any special info. Honestly when I saw that it was a 10 multiple I just assumed it was an error. Although making 8b per day with virtually zero risk because of freighters and jump portals is a bit silly. We should remember that this is the test server though. If they put something up there just to see our reaction, well thats what they have publicly said they intend to do on SiSi. Originally by: Seonae Either I'm a lot more cynical than you, or you're a lot more naive than I am, either way I have an exceptionally hard time buying that it was an accident. If I were a betting man, I'd say they threw up there to see how people would react, and well.. they got their answer.
Nizdaar Gallente STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2007.11.08 19:17:00 - [39] Updated the cap recharge time on JFreighters.
Princess Jodi Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.08 22:00:00 - [40] I agree that the 10x mass of Freighters on Sisi was no accident. It also effectively prevents the use a Jump Bridges, as you can't have enough Liquid Ozone in the array to jump a Freighter. People use Carriers to haul because the job NEEDS to be done, and the Carrier is the best available tool at present. Nerf Carriers, and people will use Dreads and Rorquals. What has been needed for over a year is the Jump Freighter. What I don't understand is CCP's desire to make the thankless job of Logistics even harder. Our alliance has about 75 POS's - not cuz we want to but because we HAVE to in order to have a reasonable level of security for our space. (As an indication of how important it is: We've removed 2 alliances from our neighborhood because they didn't have 51% Moon coverage in their station systems.) its 55 jumps from our main Outpost to Jita. Now...given the above... how am I supposed to keep all those POS's fueled?



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