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Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:33:00 - [1] -Somehow stop people from using exhumers/barges in noob corps -it was also suggested to denie acces to skills im a little puzzled how to do that though, making it unable to use barges and so on, would make isk farmers and the rest of em nastys leave the noob corps, which then again makes them wardec-able. It would also be hard for them to even join another normal corp, theyd maybe form dedicated isk farming corps, which you could war dec? ideas? flames?
Asestorian Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:35:00 - [2] No, bad idea. Not all n00b corpers using barges are ISK farmers you know. Don't be blinded by hate for ISK farmers so much that you're perfectly willing to **** up a load of other, perfectly harmless, people's games. --- ---
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:37:00 - [3] Yes, let's make it impossible for anyone in an NPC corporation to mine competitively. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in Forum Warfare Wrangler on Whining
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:38:00 - [4] yeah that would cause a problem for people just regurarly mining in noob corps, who are afraid of getting wardecced and theur 500 mil hulk shot to pieces, but im sure we can come up with a solution?
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:42:00 - [5] Heres one start your own corp! even just a one man corp skills are easy to train.? right?
Asestorian Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:42:00 - [6] There is plenty being done by CCP now to stop ISK famers/sellers. The problem isn't them though, it's the people willing to actually buy the ISK from them. --- ---
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:43:00 - [7] well not from what ive read, isk demand is decreasing rapidly, the buyers are quickly dealt by, and so the isk prices drop rapidly cos no one will buy it anymore.
Asestorian Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:45:00 - [8] Well then what's the problem? If there isn't any profit then they aren't going to farm the ISK are they. --- ---
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:47:00 - [9] it doesnt mean no one will occasionally, farmers wont just give up that easily i believe, and stil to prevent isk selling and farming measures need to be taken, or they WILL sell it again, NOW people are becoming scared to buy it lets take it one step further
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:48:00 - [10] its not about buying it, they can send it to each other in game and buy items, etc

Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:48:00 - [11] Edited by: Loyal Servant on 31/10/2007 20:48:48 Originally by: Selena chi yeah that would cause a problem for people just regurarly mining in noob corps, who are afraid of getting wardecced and theur 500 mil hulk shot to pieces, but im sure we can come up with a solution? Crawl out from under a rock. Hulks are not 500 mil. This thread does not deliver. Edit: typo.
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:50:00 - [12] Edited by: Selena chi on 31/10/2007 20:53:31 omg, sarcasm, you fail goodbye and what do you mean by delivers? its not a game, im trying to help resolve a problem .
Asestorian Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:55:00 - [13] Whatever ridiculous and draconian measures you put in place to stop ISK farmers, they will find a way round it, and you'll just be annoying and ruining the game for people who have done nothing wrong. ISK farmers will stop or be reduced to a level that is too low to make a difference if people stop buying the ISK. It's that simple. CCP ban the sellers and those linked to them, and they remove the ISK from the buyers and ban them if they persist. It's impossible to completely remove them, and all games have them. --- ---
Missy Saints	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:55:00 - [14] Originally by: Selena chi yeah that would cause a problem for people just regurarly mining in noob corps, who are afraid of getting wardecced and theur 500 mil hulk shot to pieces, but im sure we can come up with a solution? lol thought this was a necro.. I got some hulks I'll sell ya cheap for 400mill
Sarah McTeef	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:58:00 - [15] Originally by: Selena chi ...Everything... Epic fail.
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:01:00 - [16] Originally by: Asestorian Whatever ridiculous and draconian measures you put in place to stop ISK farmers, they will find a way round it, and you'll just be annoying and ruining the game for people who have done nothing wrong. ISK farmers will stop or be reduced to a level that is too low to make a difference if people stop buying the ISK. It's that simple. CCP ban the sellers and those linked to them, and they remove the ISK from the buyers and ban them if they persist. It's impossible to completely remove them, and all games have them. youre kidna resembling a troll , i was just posing a few ideas, before you get all mad behind your computer, how about you throw in some idea to fix it, and yes we do need to look after isk sellers and so, cos like i stated they can trade it ingame, so its not just about buying it, and my ideas arnt rediculous, im not ruining anything, merely stating a few thoughts,
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:03:00 - [17] Been suggested before, been shot down before. . . Nerfing noobcorps will not stop macrominers, they'll adapt, and fast. It's bad enough with names like saklfhkl, lsadfhklsa, and slk3498sdahk clogging the database, do you need corp names like MacrosRUs1, MacrosRUs2, MacrosRUs3, etc? Starting a corp is trivial ISK to farmers, and CEO alts take all of 5 minutes to roll up. And don't even say 'up the corp start cost', since that screws over legitimate newbies who suddenly can't start their own corps. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Galactic reporter Galactic reporter independant news corp	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:05:00 - [18] YES! because everyone in a noob corp is a raven-0.0-npc-alldayer-mackinsaw-ice*****ing-farmer
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:05:00 - [19] finally some1 with a sensible argument, lets think about this one,
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:07:00 - [20] Originally by: Selena chi youre kidna resembling a troll , i was just posing a few ideas, before you get all mad behind your computer, how about you throw in some idea to fix it, and yes we do need to look after isk sellers and so, cos like i stated they can trade it ingame, so its not just about buying it, and my ideas arnt rediculous, im not ruining anything, merely stating a few thoughts, Please, tell me first off you have a spell checker... Second, tell me HOW your helping us get rid of isk farmers? These things get suggested EVERY SINGLE DAY. Fail.

Asestorian Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:08:00 - [21] I'm not a troll I've just been on these forums too long and seen the same ideas and arguments over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over... --- ---
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:12:00 - [22] Edited by: Selena chi on 31/10/2007 21:13:33 Edited by: Selena chi on 31/10/2007 21:12:59 im stil pretty sure a couple of devs could make a system to make starting your own corp harder, and well mate ive also been on these forums for years now, i felt like posting, and all i get in return in rudeness, i at least tryd to be sensitive and polite, and make a point, all i get is people tripping over spelling and wrong words?... thats kinda sad, considering most players arnt english speaking to being with im sure i still managed to make the text understandable? this particular idea slipped me, so i thought hey lets inform others about this idea,?
Anwylyd Al'Vos Minmatar LightSpeed Industries	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:14:00 - [23] Fact is, isk farmers still pay ccp's bills, and if there are as many of them as everyone claims, I don't see ccp really wanting them to go... besides, not all "macro" farmers, farm to sell their isk... maybe they are alt bots for a main, or for industrial corps... I can see the use of one in those two areas, but personally I think having a "win" button of isk dulls the game, I haven't even participated in gtc sales... things lose their value when they don't have to be earned imo... and anyway, if you're encountering macro miners you're hiding in high sec... suck it up and drop to an 0.7 with some drones... never have any problems mining omber and kernite there against "macroers"... _ . - Justice, Mercy, and Faith My soul has horizons further away than those of early mornings, deeper darkness than the night
Asestorian Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:15:00 - [24] Originally by: Selena chi im stil pretty sure a couple of devs could make a system to make starting your own corp harder But why? Also, people are flaming you because.. It's the same ideas and arguments over and over. You're just rehashing things that have been fought over constantly, at least once a month, usually more often, for the past few years. No one cares any more. --- ---
Raynes Orbis Gallente Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:17:00 - [25] Originally by: Selena chi Edited by: Selena chi on 31/10/2007 21:13:33 Edited by: Selena chi on 31/10/2007 21:12:59 and well mate ive also been on these forums for years now, Post with your main. Fail. ----- Recruitment
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:18:00 - [26] Originally by: Asestorian Originally by: Selena chi im stil pretty sure a couple of devs could make a system to make starting your own corp harder But why? Also, people are flaming you because.. It's the same ideas and arguments over and over. You're just rehashing things that have been fought over constantly, at least once a month, usually more often, for the past few years. No one cares any more. well I for instance missed this idea, heard alot of others but missed this one, my intention was to inform others, just so they could think about it, who knows some great things sprout from actions such as mine
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:20:00 - [27] Edited by: Selena chi on 31/10/2007 21:20:04 Originally by: Raynes Orbis Originally by: Selena chi Edited by: Selena chi on 31/10/2007 21:13:33 Edited by: Selena chi on 31/10/2007 21:12:59 and well mate ive also been on these forums for years now, Post with your main. Fail. NO, goodbye, please use youre brain loads of reasons you dont post with yer main these days, for instance if its expired , or yer sold ya account or even just to avoid the flames whatever, see i can be rube too
Dark Flare Caldari Corpus PCG The State	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:21:00 - [28] Originally by: Selena chi Edited by: Selena chi on 31/10/2007 21:13:33 Edited by: Selena chi on 31/10/2007 21:12:59 im stil pretty sure a couple of devs could make a system to make starting your own corp harder, and well mate ive also been on these forums for years now, i felt like posting, and all i get in return in rudeness, i at least tryd to be sensitive and polite, and make a point, all i get is people tripping over spelling and wrong words?... thats kinda sad, considering most players arnt english speaking to being with im sure i still managed to make the text understandable? this particular idea slipped me, so i thought hey lets inform others about this idea,? If you've been on these forums for years, I'd kinda hope you'd have some grasp on what the problems you're trying to solve are, but you really don't. You're missing Ases point completely, your solutions will only make the game harder for "real" players, and the ISK Sellers will just find a way around it. That and the majority of ISK Farmers are in 0.0 ratting away in Ravens all day, so what on earth difference does them being war deccable make? Macro-Miners are in empire, yeah, but to be honest if you COULD war dec them they'd just corp-jump. So. Uh. Yeah, not a real solution there.
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:24:00 - [29] Originally by: Dark Flare Originally by: Selena chi Edited by: Selena chi on 31/10/2007 21:13:33 Edited by: Selena chi on 31/10/2007 21:12:59 im stil pretty sure a couple of devs could make a system to make starting your own corp harder, and well mate ive also been on these forums for years now, i felt like posting, and all i get in return in rudeness, i at least tryd to be sensitive and polite, and make a point, all i get is people tripping over spelling and wrong words?... thats kinda sad, considering most players arnt english speaking to being with im sure i still managed to make the text understandable? this particular idea slipped me, so i thought hey lets inform others about this idea,? If you've been on these forums for years, I'd kinda hope you'd have some grasp on what the problems you're trying to solve are, but you really don't. You're missing Ases point completely, your solutions will only make the game harder for "real" players, and the ISK Sellers will just find a way around it. That and the majority of ISK Farmers are in 0.0 ratting away in Ravens all day, so what on earth difference does them being war deccable make? Macro-Miners are in empire, yeah, but to be honest if you COULD war dec them they'd just corp-jump. So. Uh. Yeah, not a real solution there. good point i guess it does only affect people in noob corps, your other point well, for instance 1 corp jump allowed in 2 days or whatever number you wanna insert youre again right on the point i dont bother much with the ideas to stop isk farmers and so on, like i said , im jsut sharing ideas, not proposing anything :)
Selena chi	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:31:00 - [30] using battleships would require jet can mining right? and a hauler to pick it up , it would create a LOT more situation where you can steal their isk and get aggro from them? sure some do it now, but it would create a LOT more jetcan mining



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