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Rens Renoir Hastmena Republic University Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.01.27 12:00:00 - [1] - Quote That is stated in the latest patch notes, what does it mean? Sorry if it is a dumb question my English is not that good. Thank you.
Evenus Battuta 24	Posted - 2012.01.27 12:05:00 - [2] - Quote You can dock without warping to station
Lexmana Imperial Stout 184	Posted - 2012.01.27 12:20:00 - [3] - Quote Evenus Battuta wrote: You can dock without warping to station Naah. That would seriously mess upp bubbles in null. I guess they have fixed the issue with "you fail to dock because you are cloaked" that sometimes (used to) happen. I am sure that you still will have to warp to station before attempting to dock when you press dock from a remote location.
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 752	Posted - 2012.01.27 12:23:00 - [4] - Quote Lexmana wrote: Evenus Battuta wrote: You can dock without warping to station Naah. That would seriously mess upp bubbles in null. I guess they have fixed the issue with "you fail to dock because you are cloaked" that sometimes (used to) happen. I am sure that you still will have to warp to station before attempting to dock when you press dock from a remote location. Whats "remote" about that? The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 1009	Posted - 2012.01.27 12:24:00 - [5] - Quote Lexmana wrote: I guess they have fixed the issue with "you fail to dock because you are cloaked" that sometimes (used to) happen. I am sure that you still will have to warp to station before attempting to dock when you press dock from a remote location. This sounds more likely. Would be great if it applied to Jump Gates as well.
Ganagati Perkone Caldari State 50	Posted - 2012.01.27 12:24:00 - [6] - Quote nvm someone beat me to it lol
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 753	Posted - 2012.01.27 12:29:00 - [7] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: Lexmana wrote: I guess they have fixed the issue with "you fail to dock because you are cloaked" that sometimes (used to) happen. I am sure that you still will have to warp to station before attempting to dock when you press dock from a remote location. This sounds more likely. Would be great if it applied to Jump Gates as well. And what's so "remote" about that? The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Lexmana Imperial Stout 185	Posted - 2012.01.27 12:29:00 - [8] - Quote Renan Ruivo wrote: Lexmana wrote: Evenus Battuta wrote: You can dock without warping to station Naah. That would seriously mess upp bubbles in null. I guess they have fixed the issue with "you fail to dock because you are cloaked" that sometimes (used to) happen. I am sure that you still will have to warp to station before attempting to dock when you press dock from a remote location. Whats "remote" about that? You tell me ... maybe it is: "when you press dock from a remote location" Are you suggesting you can dock directly from a safespot without the need to warp to station?
Cebraio Starfire Oasis 0	Posted - 2012.01.27 12:39:00 - [9] - Quote Lexmana wrote: Renan Ruivo wrote: Whats "remote" about that? You tell me ... maybe it is: "when you press dock from a remote location" Are you suggesting you can dock directly from a safespot without the need to warp to station? I think you are close to the answer: You can now click "Dock" while cloaked and in a remote location. Of course it still warps you to the station first.
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 753	Posted - 2012.01.27 12:43:00 - [10] - Quote Lexmana wrote: Renan Ruivo wrote: Lexmana wrote: Evenus Battuta wrote: You can dock without warping to station Naah. That would seriously mess upp bubbles in null. I guess they have fixed the issue with "you fail to dock because you are cloaked" that sometimes (used to) happen. I am sure that you still will have to warp to station before attempting to dock when you press dock from a remote location. Whats "remote" about that? You tell me ... maybe it is: "when you press dock from a remote location" Are you suggesting you can dock directly from a safespot without the need to warp to station? I'm not suggesting anything. But your suggestion about what i wasn't suggesting sounds more like it. The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Ten Bulls Sons of Olsagard 71	Posted - 2012.01.27 12:55:00 - [11] - Quote It means there is a remote chance you will be successful when docking, if unsuccessful you will get the same old message. Im sure thats what it is.
Lexmana Imperial Stout 185	Posted - 2012.01.27 12:58:00 - [12] - Quote Cebraio wrote: I think you are close to the answer: You can now click "Dock" while cloaked and in a remote location. Of course it still warps you to the station first. Why would they put that in the most recent patch notes? Renan Ruivo wrote: Quote: you suggesting you can dock directly from a safespot without the need to warp to station? I'm not suggesting anything. But your suggestion about what i wasn't suggesting sounds more like it. So how do you get to the station then ... is it some new teleport mechanics??

CCP RubberBAND CCP Engineering Corp CCP Engineering Alliance 12	Posted - 2012.01.27 14:55:00 - [13] - Quote Hi all, Apologies for the confusion, we are going to change the patch notes to better reflect the actual fix. They will now read: When automatically docking after warping to a station in a cloaked ship the system will wait for the ship to be decloaked before attempting to dock(will make the ship go nearer to the station). The issue was that if you had set your destination to a station and cloaked during or just before warping then on approaching and attempting to dock while cloaked, EVE would notify you that docking had failed. The fix is that the code will now uncloak you just before you dock. This change does not mean you can teleport into a station without uncloaking. The reason this is a recent fix, is because the ability to dock to a station via Autopilot was introduced in Crucible. Hope that answers all your concerns.

DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 1011	Posted - 2012.01.27 15:09:00 - [14] - Quote Lexmana wrote: I guess they have fixed the issue with "you fail to dock because you are cloaked" that sometimes (used to) happen. I am sure that you still will have to warp to station before attempting to dock when you press dock from a remote location. It seems Lexmana was indeed correct. CCP RubberBAND wrote: Hi all, Apologies for the confusion, we are going to change the patch notes to better reflect the actual fix. They will now read: When automatically docking after warping to a station in a cloaked ship the system will wait for the ship to be decloaked before attempting to dock(will make the ship go nearer to the station). The issue was that if you had set your destination to a station and cloaked during or just before warping then on approaching and attempting to dock while cloaked, EVE would notify you that docking had failed. The fix is that the code will now uncloak you just before you dock. This change does not mean you can teleport into a station without uncloaking. The reason this is a recent fix, is because the ability to dock to a station via Autopilot was introduced in Crucible. Hope that answers all your concerns. CCP RubberBAND, thanks for clarifying. Does this also pertain to Jump Gates?
Joshua Aivoras Tech IV Industries Pandorum Invictus 189	Posted - 2012.01.27 15:23:00 - [15] - Quote CCP RubberBAND wrote: Hi all, Apologies for the confusion, we are going to change the patch notes to better reflect the actual fix. They will now read: When automatically docking after warping to a station in a cloaked ship the system will wait for the ship to be decloaked before attempting to dock(will make the ship go nearer to the station). The issue was that if you had set your destination to a station and cloaked during or just before warping then on approaching and attempting to dock while cloaked, EVE would notify you that docking had failed. The fix is that the code will now uncloak you just before you dock. This change does not mean you can teleport into a station without uncloaking. The reason this is a recent fix, is because the ability to dock to a station via Autopilot was introduced in Crucible. Hope that answers all your concerns. could you do this for jumping through gates too? (or would that be op or something, never heard of anyone getting killed right BEFORE jumping through a gate)
Jarnis McPieksu Aliastra Gallente Federation 303	Posted - 2012.01.27 15:28:00 - [16] - Quote Could you also fix the game randomly leaving you ~50-100m short of jump/dock range at times, especially when flying small ships that do not have much mass (so they don't coast much after the warp completes). Under autopilot the autopilot obviously approaches the gate and then jumps but when using "jump" it warps to 0m and tries to jump but falls short and doesn't try to approach or jump. This could, in theory, cause grief if you, say, use "jump" to get to a highsec gate of a lowsec system and then wander off/alt tab/whatever thinking that the ship warped to the gate and jumped - only to find out that it ended up 5m short of jump range and then some YARR guys used it for target practice.
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 931	Posted - 2012.01.27 15:56:00 - [17] - Quote because in the past if you issued a dock command and your ship reached docking range while cloaked you would get "can't dock while cloaked" and your ship would not do anything else but sit there actually its more involved than that, but that's the general idea The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Bienator II madmen of the skies 548	Posted - 2012.01.27 15:59:00 - [18] - Quote CCP RubberBAND wrote: Hi all, Apologies for the confusion, we are going to change the patch notes to better reflect the actual fix. They will now read: When automatically docking after warping to a station in a cloaked ship the system will wait for the ship to be decloaked before attempting to dock(will make the ship go nearer to the station). The issue was that if you had set your destination to a station and cloaked during or just before warping then on approaching and attempting to dock while cloaked, EVE would notify you that docking had failed. The fix is that the code will now uncloak you just before you dock. This change does not mean you can teleport into a station without uncloaking. The reason this is a recent fix, is because the ability to dock to a station via Autopilot was introduced in Crucible. Hope that answers all your concerns. ah. good. so i can keep my signature as is. a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 202	Posted - 2012.01.27 16:00:00 - [19] - Quote CCP RubberBAND wrote: Hi all, Apologies for the confusion, we are going to change the patch notes to better reflect the actual fix. They will now read: When automatically docking after warping to a station in a cloaked ship the system will wait for the ship to be decloaked before attempting to dock(will make the ship go nearer to the station). The issue was that if you had set your destination to a station and cloaked during or just before warping then on approaching and attempting to dock while cloaked, EVE would notify you that docking had failed. The fix is that the code will now uncloak you just before you dock. This change does not mean you can teleport into a station without uncloaking. The reason this is a recent fix, is because the ability to dock to a station via Autopilot was introduced in Crucible. Hope that answers all your concerns. Could you please apply the same fix for cloak warp to gates? I get the cloak error 6 times out of 10.
Murashu Phoibe Enterprises 8	Posted - 2012.01.27 16:28:00 - [20] - Quote Please make this fix for jumpgates as well.
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 955	Posted - 2012.01.27 17:45:00 - [21] - Quote Murashu wrote: Please make this fix for jumpgates as well. problem is there is not an applicable fix for gates with stations the docking cycle never starts because of the error. with gates you still coast to 2k and uncloak (most of the time) but the problem with gates is jump range is larger than uncloak range so your ship attempts to jump but fails due to it still being inside the 2500m - 2000m zone as you warp to "theoretical zero" really its one of the billion papercuts introduced when eve first went live, the center of an object is not always center. so warp to 0 from one direction embeds you in the gate itself while a warp to 0 from a different direction drops you at 2100m from the gate. pod travel really highlights this as pods don't tend to coast and you often have to realign to the gate to jump personally I think the only way to fix it is to audit all stations and gates for their box locations and correct them as needed (assuming that is the actual problem) The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Rens Renoir Hastmena Republic University Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.01.28 02:59:00 - [22] - Quote CCP RubberBAND wrote: Hi all, Apologies for the confusion, we are going to change the patch notes to better reflect the actual fix. They will now read: When automatically docking after warping to a station in a cloaked ship the system will wait for the ship to be decloaked before attempting to dock(will make the ship go nearer to the station). The issue was that if you had set your destination to a station and cloaked during or just before warping then on approaching and attempting to dock while cloaked, EVE would notify you that docking had failed. The fix is that the code will now uncloak you just before you dock. This change does not mean you can teleport into a station without uncloaking. The reason this is a recent fix, is because the ability to dock to a station via Autopilot was introduced in Crucible. Hope that answers all your concerns. Thank you for clarification, I also would like to support the requests about applying the same mechanics to jumpgates. Kind regards.
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 753	Posted - 2012.01.28 19:29:00 - [23] - Quote Hmm.. this reeks "New Guy" The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Hathrul DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Narwhals Ate My Duck 36	Posted - 2012.01.28 19:51:00 - [24] - Quote CCP RubberBAND wrote: Hi all, Apologies for the confusion, we are going to change the patch notes to better reflect the actual fix. They will now read: When automatically docking after warping to a station in a cloaked ship the system will wait for the ship to be decloaked before attempting to dock(will make the ship go nearer to the station). The issue was that if you had set your destination to a station and cloaked during or just before warping then on approaching and attempting to dock while cloaked, EVE would notify you that docking had failed. The fix is that the code will now uncloak you just before you dock. This change does not mean you can teleport into a station without uncloaking. The reason this is a recent fix, is because the ability to dock to a station via Autopilot was introduced in Crucible. Hope that answers all your concerns. 19:50:15 Notify You fail to dock because you are cloaked. am i missing something?
Thomas Abernathy Viziam Amarr Empire 52	Posted - 2012.01.28 20:02:00 - [25] - Quote Hathrul wrote: CCP RubberBAND wrote: Hi all, Apologies for the confusion, we are going to change the patch notes to better reflect the actual fix. They will now read: When automatically docking after warping to a station in a cloaked ship the system will wait for the ship to be decloaked before attempting to dock(will make the ship go nearer to the station). The issue was that if you had set your destination to a station and cloaked during or just before warping then on approaching and attempting to dock while cloaked, EVE would notify you that docking had failed. The fix is that the code will now uncloak you just before you dock. This change does not mean you can teleport into a station without uncloaking. The reason this is a recent fix, is because the ability to dock to a station via Autopilot was introduced in Crucible. Hope that answers all your concerns. 19:50:15 Notify You fail to dock because you are cloaked. am i missing something? Well you didn't actually expect them to fix it 100% did you? "Fighting CCD since 2139"
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 21	Posted - 2012.01.28 20:29:00 - [26] - Quote I was raped by an invisible kevin bacon.
Abdiel Kavash Paladin Order Fidelas Constans 350	Posted - 2012.01.28 21:17:00 - [27] - Quote CCP RubberBAND wrote: The reason this is a recent fix, is because the ability to dock to a station via Autopilot was introduced in Crucible. Hope that answers all your concerns. Wait, what exactly does docking while cloaked have to do with autopilot? Can the autopilot now cloak for you as well?
Asthariye Angry Mustellid 7	Posted - 2012.01.28 23:39:00 - [28] - Quote Yes, lovely fix, shame it doesn't work. Been warping to 0 on stations while cloaked (not on autopilot), and failing to dock ever since the patch....
Rens Renoir Hastmena Republic University Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.01.29 19:19:00 - [29] - Quote Asthariye wrote: Yes, lovely fix, shame it doesn't work. Been warping to 0 on stations while cloaked (not on autopilot), and failing to dock I'm afraid that seem to be the case with me also, every-time, not even once it happen as mentioned, so, was it removed? Regards.
Amber Libertus Hedion University Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2012.02.08 20:28:00 - [30] - Quote CCP RubberBAND wrote: When automatically docking after warping to a station in a cloaked ship the system will wait for the ship to be decloaked before attempting to dock(will make the ship go nearer to the station). Great idea! Any update on when we'll see it implemented in the game instead of just mentioned in the patchnotes (giving the mistaken impression that it was already added in that patch)?

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