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JamesCoolzz
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Posted - 2007.11.01 17:03:00 -
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what do I need to train? thanks for any advice :)
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Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.01 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Matalino on 01/11/2007 17:07:45
 Originally by: JamesCoolzz
what do I need to train?
Um... Skills! 
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Cygnus Zhada
Amarr
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.01 18:46:00 -
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Problem is that your question is difficult to answer. First of all there's different types of PVP, different shipclasses and whatnot. So essentially the answer could be "everything except carebear stuff" but even that isn't true since you need to fund your PVPing :P
If you look at solo PVP you need to do more damage than the target, tank better than the target and last longer than your target (capwise). Being faster is also quite useful.
There are so many support skills for Gunnery, missiles, navigation, mechanics, electronics, engineering, drones and you need a ton of them to become good. Ofcourse if you pick a really weak target or fly with friends all of a sudden it becomes a lot easier.
At the very least you should be able to use the T2 version of the guns, with a T2 tank, MWD, cap skills, scrambler/webber (and have those skills up a bit). All these things start to add up so.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.01 20:11:00 -
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You need a lot of skills to perform well in all types of PvP, but I'll try to categorize them for you.
Fitting Skills: These are all the skills you need to fit all your desired modules onto your ship without running out of powergrid or CPU.
Engineering - 5% Bonus to ship's powergrid output per skill level.
Electronics - 5% Bonus to ship CPU output per skill level.
Energy Grid Upgrades - to fit Power Diagnostic Systems, which increase powergrid.
Electronics Upgrades - 5% reduction of sensor upgrade CPU needs per skill level, and to fit Co-Processors, which increase CPU.
Shield Upgrades - 5% reduction in shield upgrade powergrid needs.
Weapon Upgrades - 5% reduction per skill level in the CPU needs of weapon turrets and launchers.
Advanced Weapon Upgrades - 2% reduction in powergrid needs of weapon turrets and launchers.
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I believe the most common benchmark for PvP Fitting Skills is to have Engineering, Electronics and Weapon Upgrades all up to level 5, and Advanced Weapon Upgrades up to 3. The others can be at the level of your choice.
Basic Capacitor Skills: These are all the skills you need to optimize the size, recharge rate and efficiency of your capacitor. As many Eve players will attest to, cap is life in Eve. If you don't have it, you're dead.
Energy Management - 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per skill level.
Energy Systems Operation - 5% reduction in capacitor recharge time per skill level, and to fit Capacitor Boosters.
Energy Grid Upgrades - to fit Cap Rechargers (I already mentioned this skill as a fitting skill earlier).
Energy Emission Systems - 5% reduced capacitor need of energy emission weapons per skill level, and to fit Nosferatu.
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You'll want Energy Systems Operation at level 5 and Energy Management to level 4 at least. Cap Rechargers or Cap Boosters are prevalent in most PvP fittings, so you'll want to be able to fit the best.
Navigation Skills: Anyone planning on using frigates or microwarpdrives in PvP (in other words, just about everyone) will need to consider training most of the Navigation skills.
Navigation - 5% bonus to sub-warp ship velocity per skill level.
Acceleration Control - 5% Bonus to Afterburner and MicroWarpdrive speed boost per skill level.
High Speed Maneuvering - 5% reduction in MicroWarpdrive capacitor usage per skill level.
Evasive Maneuvering - 5% improved ship agility for all ships per skill level.
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Frigate specialists need to seriously consider training all of these skills to level 5. Personally, I'm a Battleship pilot, and even I have Navigation trained up to 5. If you plan on piloting Interceptors or Interdictors, you will need Evasive Maneuvering up to level 5 just to sit in your ship.
Armor Tanking Skills: Armor tanking is without a doubt the most common form of tanking in PvP, which is great for the Gallente, Amarr and Minmatar races, but makes things difficult for the Caldari ships.
Mechanic - to fit Armor Repairers.
Hull Upgrades - Grants a 5% bonus to armor hit points per skill level, and to fit Active Armor Hardeners and Plates.
Repair Systems - 5% reduction in repair systems duration per skill level, and to fit Armor Repairers.
EM Armor Compensation, Explosive Armor Compensation, Kinetic Armor Compensation, Thermic Armor Compensation - To improve passive/inactive armor resists.
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Most PvPers seem to believe Mechanic and Hull Upgrades should be trained up to level 5, and Repair Systems up to level 4 to fit all the modules you will need. The compensation skills should also be trained up to level 4, or at least 3 if you don't have the patience for 4.
To be Continued...
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.01 20:11:00 -
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Reserved
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.01 20:23:00 -
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Reserved
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Jinassi
Gallente
ACCORD Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.14 11:25:00 -
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can you write also skills to better your powergrid, pls?
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Maximillian Cortez
Amarr
Yarrrateers
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Posted - 2007.11.14 11:55:00 -
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Train engineering to 5 for powergrid, 5% to total pg given for every level
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VB Sarge
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Posted - 2007.11.14 12:25:00 -
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Holy crap. I was going to offer in some advice, but Cal pretty much hit it all. For ANYONE interested in PvP, Cal's list is a must read.
I should add in, that it's possible to specialize in one or two of the catergories, thus reducing a need for some of the others. Support skills you'll want as high as possible, but specialty skills, such as speed and ewar, might be bypassed for a time to focus on your other skills.
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No Mahd
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Posted - 2007.11.14 16:01:00 -
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Thanks Cal - ur post is extremelly useful for someone like me that has never pvp yet - but is building some skills for npc missions and hopefully move on to more advance levels.
Thanks very much,
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Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co.
Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.12.13 10:00:00 -
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I'd say you could Shield tank aswell, since unless you come up against Amarr, your Caldari ship should hold out alright, except maybe against Minnies loaded with EMP rounds.
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Major Stuart
Dark Tornado
Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2007.12.22 16:52:00 -
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If your in a BS you can get your resists upto 85% in all so amarr wouldnt have that much of a advantage
That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter.
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