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Jakuna Fox
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Posted - 2004.02.28 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Jakuna Fox on 28/02/2004 17:36:59
Press Release
For immediate distribution
The BSC would like to announce it's acceptance in to the C4 alliance. We look forward to forging a stronger relationship with the other corporations present in the alliance and forwarding our industrial capacity in the near future. The corporation will be moving our base of operations when it is required to fulfil our role within the C4.
Other news
We are saddened that Zaphod Robotnik has had to step down from a presidential role within the BSC and will be spending time away from corporate life in the forseeable future. He will be sorely missed by all members of the BSC.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.28 17:40:00 -
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Another one.
hmm, more people to shoot at.
But this new expansion of C4 certainly looks interesting.
OC, TTI, BSC, OTC... Very interesting combo. I guess I have to say gj to Specter. Let's see how you manage to put it together in practise.
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Max Delorian
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Posted - 2004.02.28 17:43:00 -
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I'd like to publically welcome our allies from the BSC into the C4. TTI and the BSC have worked together very well over the last few months, and it is both warming and encouraging that they have joined us side-by-side within the esteemed ranks of the C4. We see this as an excellent opportunity to further relations, and continue to work together as a fluid unit.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.28 17:43:00 -
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Yay! More english people on teamspeak :) :) :)
Reverend Necrona |
Balmer
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:00:00 -
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It's our priviledge to welcome BSC into the C4 Alliance. Together with our other new alliance members TTi and 7th Space Cavalry, C4 will make its mark on the Eve map.
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Proud Member of Curse Alliance
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:06:00 -
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I look forward to flying with the C4 Alliance in the very near future!
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:08:00 -
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Oh, and Dalman.... While you will have more to shoot at, there will also be a LOT more shooting at you.
:D
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:15:00 -
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interesting...
may i ask what is the future plan for C4 Alliance?
"We brake for nobody"
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Mantra
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:16:00 -
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It's good to welcome my old friends to the C4 alliance, may you be prosperous well into the future.
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Shoopy
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:20:00 -
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Good luck guys :)
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:23:00 -
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interesting...
may i ask what is the future plan for C4 Alliance?
There's not that many regions left:)
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:32:00 -
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interesting...
may i ask what is the future plan for C4 Alliance?
There's not that many regions left:)
Stain is nice this time of year im told ;)
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:34:00 -
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Stain is nice this time of year im told ;)
Stain has lost it's palmtrees and coconuts. Nowadays it's just like a deserted ghosttown "western-style".
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Mantra
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:49:00 -
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That's a shame. I like coconuts.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:58:00 -
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poor stain
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.28 18:59:00 -
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Quote:
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Stain is nice this time of year im told ;)
Stain has lost it's palmtrees and coconuts. Nowadays it's just like a deserted ghosttown "western-style".
What better time for a dramatic re-vamp of Stain then.
It will soon be bustling with activity ;)
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.28 19:42:00 -
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Problem with getting so big is there'll be no-one else to fight but yourselves.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.28 19:59:00 -
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Problem with getting so big is there'll be no-one else to fight but yourselves.
Hmmmm CA civil war that would be interesting : )
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:06:00 -
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TTi warmly welcomes our friends BSC into our new joint venture. May C4's bank accounts grow and prosper!
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 28/02/2004 20:14:34
Ok, so Omega's in the CA, and the C4. The only way for any other CA corp to get an alliance NAP is to put a vote through the CA council, but Omega gets to avoid that by making their own little sub alliance?
So, why don't you fellows in the CA tell them to cut that **** out? I mean really, I dont see the point of the C4 alliance anymore now that Omega and Ota are CA, besides just completely ignoring the process of the CA
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Max Delorian
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 28/02/2004 20:14:34
Ok, so Omega's in the CA, and the C4. The only way for any other CA corp to get an alliance NAP is to put a vote through the CA council, but Omega gets to avoid that by making their own little sub alliance?
So, why don't you fellows in the CA tell them to cut that **** out? I mean really, I dont see the point of the C4 alliance anymore now that Omega and Ota are CA, besides just completely ignoring the process of the CA
Well Bob, Omega is in the CA and C4. Because they are also in the CA they can travel through Curse and whatnot. The BSC and TTI are in C4, which means we are not actually in the CA, and therefore can't travel through Curse, or mine in Curse or any of its many protectorates. It sounds quite simple to me. And that doesnt mean we dont want to be in CA, or that we do. It simply means that we are not at the moment.
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 28/02/2004 20:22:23
So, when I see screenshots of TTI in U-Q, really you should be getting your faces kicked in by the CA, right?
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 28/02/2004 20:35:14
Funny thats not how Duke described the relationship a while back.
See the link below
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=60894#5
Wait I'll save you the trouble
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I recommend asking yourself what your corp wants out of an alliance and what you're willing to commit to the alliance.
Some alliances cater to the care bear "I wanna mine my buttocks off 23/7" crowd. Some alliances are in the middle and have both. A few alliances are more PvP minded with a killer instinct and a taste for war.
C4 (which is part of the Curse Alliance) is of the last variety. We don't go after noobs but are engaged in some of the hottest warfare found in eve, fighting some of the most experienced and determined enemies found in eve. If action and excitement is what you're corp is looking for then contact Specter in game about the C4.
End quote
Tal
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nails
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:33:00 -
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Awsome! welcome to C4 British Space Corporation! This is going to be sooo much fun.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:35:00 -
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lol, this is the end! :P
"We brake for nobody"
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 28/02/2004 20:52:26
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 28/02/2004 20:22:23
So, when I see screenshots of TTI in U-Q, really you should be getting your faces kicked in by the CA, right?
No, EXACT same reason we don't kick m0o's faces in when their in U-Q.
"friends".
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:55:00 -
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Or, it could be the fact that the CA council lets us operate there because we destroyed hundreds of Stain battleships
From what I know, the whole council had to concede an NAP with m0o, whereas just you and ota get to control who is granted an NAP by association with your C4 alliance
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:56:00 -
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Exact same reason again bob. C4 have sat on the CA vs SA front line (infact behind it mostly) for months now, so there u go.
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:57:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 28/02/2004 21:05:16
No, I've seen TTI and BSC fighting for the CFS, not the CA. There was a difference when I was in the CA between recruiting new corpmates, and pushing for an NAP with a new corp - that required a vote
I'm sure the CA council would vote for it now anyway, I'm just not seeing the point of the C4 and why you get to do what you want before its actually voted on
(You can point out the terrible hypocrisy of me saying that you're ignoring the CA council when Red Corsairs were ignoring them every week pirating and starting new wars if you like)
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 28/02/2004 21:08:11
Exact same reason again bob. C4 have sat on the CA vs SA front line (infact behind it mostly) for months now, so there u go.
edit: Also we do have to take such issues to the CA council they were aware of what was going on prior to this happening. :)
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Jebba IV
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Posted - 2004.02.28 21:01:00 -
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:O
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.28 21:11:00 -
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So just to clear it up is C4 part of CA or not Duke Droklar said it is, peeps here saying it isnt.
Confused ?
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Max Delorian
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Posted - 2004.02.28 21:13:00 -
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"No, I've seen TTI and BSC fighting for the CFS, not the CA."
Clarity check.. you saw TTI mining in Period Basis (before Techell bought the station), and indy's with cargo comming back up via A2 and Gehi. What you did not see was TTI fighting for CFS. What you did see was TTI trying to defend our mining ops (which admittedly, failed myserably due to numbers. But hey, at least we stayed and fought, hehe)
Lets take an example:- You and a few others chased my hauler around Gehi, luckily didnt catch me. Did I smack? no. Did I whine? no. When a large m0o blackade nailed my thorax en route to mining in A2. Smakc? no Whine? no. Actually I remember the converstaion in local being quite friendly... no grudges were held, we all got on with out lives. But now all of a sudden mining, hauling, and defending our mining ops is fighting for the CFS?
And anyway... why are people trying to stir up trouble? Its a game, lets have some fun!
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.02.28 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 28/02/2004 21:38:22
We fought with you and BSC in TPAR, where you were alongside some CFS break-off alliance called the DSMA - all CFS guys in the bottom of their space. Anyone looking at our kill log could see that
Far as I'm concerned theyre the same, they dont shoot each other and they both tried to help one another push m0o out of CFS claimed space, some still have access to the CFS forums and they help one another around A2
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.02.28 21:36:00 -
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Awsome! welcome to C4 British Space Corporation! This is going to be sooo much fun.
Now you know why I asked that question ;)
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Max Delorian
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Posted - 2004.02.28 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Max Delorian on 28/02/2004 21:42:38
"CFS break-off alliance"
Who werent part of the CFS. And as mentioned above, some of our guys were mining there, and they chose to try and defend their mining ops there. If they chose to dock and hide, you would have rolled clean through (even though you did anyway, hehe). I think kudos should go to us and the BSC for standing up and fighting where many would have, and did, dock and log. This by no means indicated 'we were fighting for the CFS'. And neither did we 'help push you out of CFS space'. As far as I can remember, once the station was taken and mining ops became un-economical, the guys mining moved home and never re-entered CFS space since.
"Far as I'm concerned theyre the same, they dont shoot each other"
And since thats the logic you follow, does that mean m0o is part of the CA? CFS was open space, anyone non-hostile was free to pass through and not be shot at by the CFS. Now... it would be different if we were mining in a closed region ofc.
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.02.28 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 28/02/2004 21:46:05
The DSMA guys I talked to said TTI wasnt in that alliance officially, and as far as I know theyre still there. I see Drogon around a lot
Yes, kudos to you for fighting and not docking, but you were doing it alongside the CFS, as part of the same fleet. That doesn't matter to me much, I shot half the corps in the CA before they joined, and get along fine with most, just disputing what the Omega guy said about all of C4 fighting for curse
You've done nothing for the CA, and I just dont understand why your NAP didnt have to be voted on
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Max Delorian
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Posted - 2004.02.28 21:43:00 -
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The DSMA guys I talked to said TTI wasnt in that alliance officially, and as far as I know theyre still there.
I see Drogon around a lot
There you go :) We werent part of any alliance, they were just friendly to us when we started mining there, and let us use their station.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.28 22:04:00 -
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Still are C4 part of CA or not any chance of a confirmation or do you need to chat about it : )
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Max Delorian
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Posted - 2004.02.28 22:24:00 -
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Well, like said earlier Tal, Omega are C4, and are also CA members. As far as I know, TTi are not CA members, while we are C4 members.
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.02.28 22:25:00 -
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You've done nothing for the CA, and I just dont understand why your NAP didnt have to be voted on
We have a nap? With CA?
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.28 22:28:00 -
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Well, like said earlier Tal, Omega are C4, and are also CA members. As far as I know, TTi are not CA members, while we are C4 members.
I understand that. But earlier in the thread someone stated that C4 are not CA yet in the thread I highlighted earlier the Duke states it is. Just want to get the facts correct.
If C4 are are a part of CA then it doesnt matter if an Individual corp isnt as they will be by proxy.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.28 22:48:00 -
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You've done nothing for the CA, and I just dont understand why your NAP didnt have to be voted on
We have a nap? With CA?
Uhm... Since CA forces usually KOS everything that isn't CA in systems such as u-qvwd and they clearly not kill you on sight, it's pretty easy to make than conclusion
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.02.28 22:51:00 -
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Denyability has already started!
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Balmer
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Posted - 2004.02.28 22:57:00 -
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OC and OTC reformed the C4 Alliance...and when we joined CA, Council was informed that we would remain as part of C4. C4 has grown, though not all C4 corps have been voted into the CA....yet! Though its no one's fu king business but our own, CA has closed all applications to join CA for a 'censored' period of time.
Happy, Bob? ffs...
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.02.28 22:58:00 -
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Uhm... Since CA forces usually KOS everything that isn't CA in systems such as u-qvwd and they clearly not kill you on sight, it's pretty easy to make than conclusion
Not shooting is not shooting. NAP is paperwork. The current paperwork is C4.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.28 22:58:00 -
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OC and OTC reformed the C4 Alliance...and when we joined CA, Council was informed that we would remain as part of C4. C4 has grown, though not all C4 corps have been voted into the CA....yet! Though its no one's fu king business but our own, CA has closed all applications to join CA for a 'censored' period of time.
Happy, Bob? ffs...
Not really does not explain the Dukes C4 is part of CA comment.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Balmer
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Posted - 2004.02.28 23:00:00 -
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Not really does not explain the Dukes C4 is part of CA comment.
Picture it this way(props to NGRU Rix for this analogy): OC and OTC have 1 foot in two camps, equally balanced- CA and C4.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.28 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 28/02/2004 23:16:12
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Not really does not explain the Dukes C4 is part of CA comment.
Picture it this way(props to NGRU Rix for this analogy): OC and OTC have 1 foot in two camps, equally balanced- CA and C4.
Ok so duke got it wrong then and C4 are in no way part of the CA. Thanks for the clarification.
Will the Duke be making a retraction of that comment ?
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Bigfoot Hunter
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Posted - 2004.02.28 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Bigfoot Hunter on 28/02/2004 23:22:10
why does any of this matter to you Talon SilverHawk you arent in the ca. Oh and hi BSC nice to have ya aboard.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.28 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 28/02/2004 23:30:28
I have a general interest in all of Eve and like to keep up with who is who, alliances etc. Why is that a problem ?
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.02.28 23:49:00 -
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Shame to see this degenerate into another pirate lover thread.
I was in the BSC once and they don't even trade with pirates,
Since the CA aren't pirates I don't see how it matters.
Will be interesting to see what stance Evol take on this, and what
the BSC will do if m0o make a day trip to catch up with old friends
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.02.28 23:53:00 -
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Your telling me...
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.28 23:54:00 -
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Sorry what pirate lover thread ?
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Mantra
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Posted - 2004.02.29 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Mantra on 29/02/2004 02:36:16
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Shame to see this degenerate into another pirate lover thread.
I was in the BSC once and they don't even trade with pirates,
Since the CA aren't pirates I don't see how it matters.
Will be interesting to see what stance Evol take on this, and what
the BSC will do if m0o make a day trip to catch up with old friends
I was a part of BSC, too. Now I am TTi. Believe it or not, the two corps are quite similar. Except one is communist, and the other is capitalist.
I can tell you now that TTi have -nothing- to do with pirates. We don't trade with them and we don't have a NAP with them. So please don't say we're going back to our old ways. Believe it or not it's possible to change.
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2004.02.29 00:43:00 -
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Talon, I think some maths will help clear this one up!
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C4 (which is part of the Curse Alliance) is of the last variety. We don't go after...
At the time THAT message was written, C4 consisted of Ota Corps and Omega Corp. Only those 2. And they joined the CA, so let's reform that message! 
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Omega Corp and Ota Corps (who are part of the Curse Alliance) are of the last variety. We don't go after...
Yet now the C4 has expanded, but that doesn't mean they have joined the CA. Ofcourse we are very friendly towards each other lol 
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Dawson
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Posted - 2004.02.29 01:58:00 -
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Hey BSC! Looks like we will be fighting togeather again. Good to have you with us :D
Ambassador
Admiral of the Blue
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Fionn MacCool
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Posted - 2004.02.29 02:02:00 -
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'A lady walking home espied a disheveled drunk sleeping it off in the gutter beside a pig. She hoisted her nose in disgust and said:'One is known by the company one keeps'....and the pig got up and slowly walked away.
Whether or not CA is a pirate organisation or not is a matter of conjecture. That some of their member corps are or have been pirates as well as some of their friends is a matter of fact. Pardon the cliche, but if you lie down with dogs you will wake up with fleas.
<..offers the lady, and the pig, an escort to a more reputable neighborhood>
Fionn MacCool
"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will, one day, plow for those who do not" -T.Jefferson
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Dawson
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Posted - 2004.02.29 02:05:00 -
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Social life?
Ambassador
Admiral of the Blue
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.02.29 02:36:00 -
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AFAIK C4 does NOT do "whatever they want". OC and OTC are CA members sure.
The other C4 members are NOT OC members and those who wants to becoome CA members are subjected to the same prohibition period as anyone else. For example 7CAV: They are C4 members looking to also join CA. As we speak they are on prohibition and their actions the coming weeks will determine if they become CA or not,
As for the thought of CA civil war, (between C4 and CA then I guess) I'm having a hard time seeing that happening. Too many nice people in CA chat
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.29 03:44:00 -
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As for the thought of CA civil war, (between C4 and CA then I guess) I'm having a hard time seeing that happening. Too many nice people in CA chat
I definenately see a CA civil war coming, but not in the next months. Give it 5-6 months.
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2003Cobra
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Posted - 2004.02.29 04:53:00 -
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welcome
"When war does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard."
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.02.29 05:10:00 -
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Congrats for BSC and TTI on that membership to C4. Its a quality group.
My question is in regards to your homes. If you not CA but are C4, you will be operating where exactly?
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Jet Jagowrath
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Posted - 2004.02.29 07:05:00 -
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C4/CA looks so similar, you'll forgive me when i shoot at you for collaborating.
Best of luck,
JJx
King Jadrut of The Alliance That Kicks Your Arse Very Badly And Whoops You Like You've Never Seen Before, TATKYAVBAWYLYNSB for short, owns all Jove space, stay away or bad things will happen to you and your hamsters and/or gerbils mmmk
La Maison de tous les plaisirs - Where politics and pleasure meet...
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2004.02.29 07:16:00 -
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C4/CA looks so similar, you'll forgive me when i shoot at you for collaborating.
Best of luck,
JJx
Sorry, you guys are nothing put a moo and Evol wannabe.
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Psuedo Angel
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Posted - 2004.02.29 07:32:00 -
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It's our priviledge to welcome BSC into the C4 Alliance. Together with our other new alliance members TTi and 7th Space Cavalry, C4 will make its mark on the Eve map.
Can I ask whereabouts the C4 alliance resides, and if pilots are free to fly through this space without needing to pay for the privilege?
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Bigfoot Hunter
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Posted - 2004.02.29 11:02:00 -
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Currently the non ca c4 members are pretty much living in catch i think. Catch is pretty much a death trap all the time anyways so i wouldnt advise pretty much anyone to go there both sides kill people they dont know or think are spies pretty regualrly in that area because you only have a small window of shoot or let get away. So id say it depends alot on luck when you run into us or anyone from sa or ca in catch if your gonna get away unscathed. We try to keep casualties of innocents low but **** happens.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.29 11:09:00 -
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Welcome to the C4 alliance.
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.02.29 11:25:00 -
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Currently the non ca c4 members are pretty much living in catch i think. Catch is pretty much a death trap all the time anyways so i wouldnt advise pretty much anyone to go there both sides kill people they dont know or think are spies pretty regualrly in that area because you only have a small window of shoot or let get away. So id say it depends alot on luck when you run into us or anyone from sa or ca in catch if your gonna get away unscathed. We try to keep casualties of innocents low but **** happens.
Indeed, I've seen quite a few in Catch. Its a tough existence out there. Are they claiming the stations there as their new home?
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.02.29 11:37:00 -
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Ah, so much interest in the internal working and politics of CA. When we joined CA it was understood that we were the C4 alliance and that was approved. However, we have made it quite clear to all that join C4 that they are not in the CA by default. If they desire membership in the CA as well and if they have lived up to the requirements of C4 membership then OC would sponsor them as a potential member of the CA. IF the CA council then approves of them they would also become members of the CA. No C4 member that is not part of the CA is allowed within the borders of CA territory so a NAP does not seem an issue.
The C4 is at war with the SA and so is the CA. Therefore it only makes sense that CA has no problem with C4 corps on the front line against a common enemy. OC and OTA also being members of the CA means that we will respond to CA defense needs within Curse however other C4 (non CA members) are not required to. It will be up to the CA council if C4 are allowed to enter Curse to engage common enemies. This has not come up so has not really been discussed. A little difficult for some but I'm sure the majority grasp the concept.
We welcome our newest allies.
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.02.29 12:04:00 -
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Whether or not CA is a pirate organisation or not is a matter of conjecture. That some of their member corps are or have been pirates as well as some of their friends is a matter of fact. Pardon the cliche, but if you lie down with dogs you will wake up with fleas.
And what turnip truck did you fall out of? The only corp in Eve with no mud on it, legitimately or not, is probably The Scope, kudos to you.
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Fionn MacCool
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Posted - 2004.02.29 14:02:00 -
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Actually, there are hundreds of corps with spotless reputations. Your statement is true, though, of nearly every corporation that is or has been in an alliance.
"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will, one day, plow for those who do not" -T.Jefferson
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.02.29 15:02:00 -
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Hundreds of small corps that keep to themselves but dont get very far yes. Its kinda like STD's its something people catch even through no fault of their own! Sometimes though, its just vicious rumours that are caught, one cant be too judgemental in this cut throat world of Eve.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.02.29 15:38:00 -
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Interesting grouping of power blocks within the Curse Alliance - good job they have a republican structure and it will be interesting to watch for any signs of internal division.
Not sure why the distinction between C4 and CA is so hard for people to grasp - its a pretty simple concept.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.29 15:52:00 -
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Interesting grouping of power blocks within the Curse Alliance - good job they have a republican structure and it will be interesting to watch for any signs of internal division.
Not sure why the distinction between C4 and CA is so hard for people to grasp - its a pretty simple concept.
Now they have explained the difference it isnt but they had made contradictory statements so clarification was asked for. Quite simple I think.
Tal
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.02.29 17:17:00 -
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C4 means what now?
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Absurd
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Posted - 2004.02.29 17:41:00 -
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What the fick is wrong with you guys, it seems the Alliance thingy is getting out of hand.
This has to be one of the most god damned carebearish act I have ever seen in EVE, the idea of looking for a challange and fun seems to have missed most peoples minds, now we have one allaince wich is just to damn big and powerful, wich means no one will fight them, ever.
I suspect that in the end there will be 1 alliance becauce everyone else has been annihilated.
By the time there will be 2 alliances left the fights will be unbearable to say the least, again that isnt fun.
Why not everyone and his mother form NAP so we can all shoot the roids, now that will be fun right ?
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Fionn MacCool
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Posted - 2004.02.29 18:15:00 -
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The smoke, from the 'flames', is beginning to clear. It appears that C4 is an independent entity from Curse Alliance with no NAP or any other association with CA. OC and OTA are members of both alliances. Membership in multiple alliances is certainly possible but conflicts between alliances might be difficult to resolve as would dividing resources to meet obligations to more than one alliance.
I withdraw my comment about lying down with dogs. I can't believe that TTI or BSC would ever associate themselves with 'pirates, griefers and thugs'. My apologies for any offense I've caused.
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Bigfoot Hunter
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Posted - 2004.02.29 21:55:00 -
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Absurd i highly doubt that there will always be people willing to fight even if it is david versus goliath. Most of the time the small will be crushed but there is always the chance for greatness if you have the balls to act. The small chance for winning in the face of almost certain defeat will always breed people willing to fight and if neccisary die trying to take down the alliances no matter how big and powerful they may get.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.29 21:55:00 -
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The smoke, from the 'flames', is beginning to clear. It appears that C4 is an independent entity from Curse Alliance with no NAP or any other association with CA. OC and OTA are members of both alliances. Membership in multiple alliances is certainly possible but conflicts between alliances might be difficult to resolve as would dividing resources to meet obligations to more than one alliance.
I withdraw my comment about lying down with dogs. I can't believe that TTI or BSC would ever associate themselves with 'pirates, griefers and thugs'. My apologies for any offense I've caused.
Fionn MacCool
Please STFU, you guys are the biggest M0o and Evol wannabe's.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.29 22:00:00 -
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The smoke, from the 'flames', is beginning to clear. It appears that C4 is an independent entity from Curse Alliance with no NAP or any other association with CA. OC and OTA are members of both alliances. Membership in multiple alliances is certainly possible but conflicts between alliances might be difficult to resolve as would dividing resources to meet obligations to more than one alliance.
I withdraw my comment about lying down with dogs. I can't believe that TTI or BSC would ever associate themselves with 'pirates, griefers and thugs'. My apologies for any offense I've caused.
Fionn MacCool
Please STFU, you guys are the biggest M0o and Evol wannabe's.
May I suggest prozac ?
Tal
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.29 22:03:00 -
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Whatever failure, how is CFS doing these days?
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.29 22:08:00 -
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Whatever failure, how is CFS doing these days?
Oh im feelin that love 
Thats it ?
Tal
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.29 22:13:00 -
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You join a corp that bails on its friends and allies when the going gerts tough. That is the differnce with CA corps. We all stick together.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.29 22:16:00 -
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You join a corp that bails on its friends and allies when the going gerts tough. That is the differnce with CA corps. We all stick together.
Ok so no one has left the CA then ? And I read the posts about CELEST leaving dont see the PA saying what your claiming. Why put your own spin on it.
Tal
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.29 22:19:00 -
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Hehe, so they left to attack the CA, when their "friends" are getting over ran? Makes sense doesnt it?
What a great group of "pirate hunters".
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.29 22:48:00 -
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Hehe, so they left to attack the CA, when their "friends" are getting over ran? Makes sense doesnt it?
What a great group of "pirate hunters".
As I understand it a CA corp attacked CELEST first.
But that is probably old news.
Tal
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:35:00 -
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Leave it reclaimer, it's pointless argueing no one is ever going to admit their cowards on the forums.
Celest, welcome to the conflict, hope you have fun.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.03.01 07:17:00 -
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Reclaimer, you obviously haven't had any contact with TTi since they got their new CEO, GunnyP. They are a much different corp now, and very trustworthy.
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.03.01 11:09:00 -
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(I dont think he's talking about TTi)
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.03.01 16:45:00 -
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.... He wasn't?!
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.03.01 16:58:00 -
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(think its about celestial apocalypse, but what do we know, were alliance n00bs :D )
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Dawson
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Posted - 2004.03.01 17:02:00 -
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now iam confused I thought he was talking about TTI also. Hes seems to be replying to a TTI post. 
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.03.01 17:05:00 -
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(But later he and talon seem to duke it out?)
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Moonlight Express
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Posted - 2004.03.01 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Moonlight Express on 01/03/2004 17:52:52
Well, IÆm just a noob that doesnÆt know anything about politics in eve, but here are my thoughts on this thread.
Some C4 corporations are in both alliances? To me that means that they are partners with CA. They fight same enemy, so they are allies. They have separate leaderships and policies, but at the end of the day, they stick together. Take US and UK as an example.
I think C4 wants to distance them selves from CA a little bit, since some of C4 corporations in the past were accused of sponsoring pirates and CA is allegedly pirate alliance. In a long run, they are one and the same. If one alliance needs help, the other will be there for them, like any good ally would.
ThatÆs how I see it. CA & C4 are allies. Weather itÆs a partnership of good or evil is open for debate, but they are partners. I think thatÆs clear for everyone to see.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.03.01 18:00:00 -
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Still nothing on C4s agenda, what their history is, aspirations or even what C4 means.
You just took the name of a plastic explosive and thought it'd make you the coolest thing since M0o?
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.03.01 19:28:00 -
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Still nothing on C4s agenda, what their history is, aspirations or even what C4 means.
You just took the name of a plastic explosive and thought it'd make you the coolest thing since M0o?
ROFL, we announced the C4 months ago, get your facts straight mr. Troll
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Archon Stormrage
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Posted - 2004.03.01 19:34:00 -
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C4 is a very old allaince concept formed back in the days of beta, check www.theomegacorp.com and im sure the original alliance details are still there. It was a very good concept then and I'm sure it will be now.
Times changed however and the original corps grew apart come release. However, with certain EVE objects soon to be available I'm sure they will prosper. Good luck with it my old corp, even if we are now enemies
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DAViiD
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 28/02/2004 21:05:16
No, I've seen TTI and BSC fighting for the CFS, not the CA. There was a difference when I was in the CA between recruiting new corpmates, and pushing for an NAP with a new corp - that required a vote
I'm sure the CA council would vote for it now anyway, I'm just not seeing the point of the C4 and why you get to do what you want before its actually voted on
(You can point out the terrible hypocrisy of me saying that you're ignoring the CA council when Red Corsairs were ignoring them every week pirating and starting new wars if you like)
Hiya!
Bob if i'm not mistaken, u mean the fight in Period Basis. At that time, NO CFS members were involved. All the corps down there, quited CFS few days before the fight becouse of CFSs ingnorance and lack of u know what . The corps like TTi and BSC were down there supporting us and not CFS, and we're really thankfull for the support.
Hope that cleard up a bit....
Regards,
DAViiD
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