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Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 933	Posted - 2012.01.27 18:05:00 - [31] - Quote Gabriel Mangeiri wrote: NaturalBeast wrote: Show me an EA game on a single server that promotes PVP, encourages scamming, DEVs play, allows fellow players to shape the game universe, and wait for it, has lots of rage quitting carebears and I will transfer tomorrow... I think having level 50 of every possible character in SWTOR would bore me to tears. Give me Yoda (me and only me) and just maybe... EVE isn't on a single server. It amuses me to no end how even some Eve players get this wrong. semantics, EVE is a single game world (for all intents and purposes a single server game) even if its run on a cluster as opposed to other games where the community is sharded on separate and unlinked server clusters. No there are not many games like eve, save for wwiionline which also maintains a single game world spread across a server cluster. but your assessment is technically correct, however your amusement is in error The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Alpheias Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard 429	Posted - 2012.01.27 18:16:00 - [32] - Quote I have a love-hate relationship with CCP, as much as I can violently disagree with some of their decisions, they are also the developer that shines brighter and brighter on a sky where more and more developers get swallowed up by giant publishers. And for that, I love them. (Now, bring out Dust 514 on PC!) I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more
kenxi GLOBAL DISSENSION KRYSIS. 26	Posted - 2012.01.27 18:28:00 - [33] - Quote Gabriel Mangeiri wrote: NaturalBeast wrote: Show me an EA game on a single server that promotes PVP, encourages scamming, DEVs play, allows fellow players to shape the game universe, and wait for it, has lots of rage quitting carebears and I will transfer tomorrow... I think having level 50 of every possible character in SWTOR would bore me to tears. Give me Yoda (me and only me) and just maybe... EVE isn't on a single server. It amuses me to no end how even some Eve players get this wrong. Thats like saying because I live in the EU I'm not on the same planet as you. Which need less to say is WRONG! I may be on a different continent but I'm still on the same dam planet as you! So i could fly swim or walk to come and slap you in the face! the % of morons is always greater than what you would expect it to be unless you always assume 100% of people are morons The % of morons is always greater than what you would expect it to be unless you always assume 100% of people are morons
Io Koval R-.A.-G.-E 0	Posted - 2012.01.27 18:31:00 - [34] - Quote kenxi wrote: Gabriel Mangeiri wrote: EVE isn't on a single server. It amuses me to no end how even some Eve players get this wrong. Thats like saying because I live in the EU I'm not on the same planet as you. Which need less to say is WRONG! I may be on a different continent but I'm still on the same dam planet as you! So i could fly swim or walk to come and slap you in the face! the % of morons is always greater than what you would expect it to be unless you always assume 100% of people are morons I really don't know what you're trying to get at, but in all reality the EvE hardware system is indeed made up of multiple servers of hardware... EDIT: Check this out: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=769 Notice how CCP calls them "Servers"
Alpheias Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard 431	Posted - 2012.01.27 18:34:00 - [35] - Quote Io Koval wrote: kenxi wrote: Gabriel Mangeiri wrote: EVE isn't on a single server. It amuses me to no end how even some Eve players get this wrong. Thats like saying because I live in the EU I'm not on the same planet as you. Which need less to say is WRONG! I may be on a different continent but I'm still on the same dam planet as you! So i could fly swim or walk to come and slap you in the face! the % of morons is always greater than what you would expect it to be unless you always assume 100% of people are morons I really don't know what you're trying to get at, but in all reality the EvE hardware system is indeed made up of multiple servers of hardware... But you still log onto a single shard, Tranquility, which was the whole point. Gabriel proved to be unable to connect the dots which kenxi pointed out to him with a RL analogy. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more
Velicitia Open Designs 458	Posted - 2012.01.27 18:51:00 - [36] - Quote Io Koval wrote: kenxi wrote: Gabriel Mangeiri wrote: EVE isn't on a single server. It amuses me to no end how even some Eve players get this wrong. Thats like saying because I live in the EU I'm not on the same planet as you. Which need less to say is WRONG! I may be on a different continent but I'm still on the same dam planet as you! So i could fly swim or walk to come and slap you in the face! the % of morons is always greater than what you would expect it to be unless you always assume 100% of people are morons I really don't know what you're trying to get at, but in all reality the EvE hardware system is indeed made up of multiple servers of hardware... EDIT: Check this out: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=769 Notice how CCP calls them "Servers" yeah, they have a fair number of discreet hardware boxes serving up TQ. However, in general terms we're all on the same server. SWTOR/WOW/ETC -- "oh hey, you play [game] too?" "yeah ... run with a pretty good crew, we're lookin for new people, what say you?" "sounds great! I'm on (server)" "oh ... right ... well we're on (other server) ... though you could start a new toon and grind it to L80 to run with us..." "...ugh ..." EVE "Oh, you play Eve too!?" "yeah, run with a great alliance in Catch. Heard one of the corps was recruiting ... chat to {person} and tell them I sent you." "sweet!"
Asuri Kinnes Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy 157	Posted - 2012.01.27 19:05:00 - [37] - Quote EA used to be great back in the day (read: late 80's). That was honestly when I quit paying attention to them, other than to note which games not to buy . . . Wormholes: The NEW end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs. NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA!
Myxx Atropos Group Blood Right 486	Posted - 2012.01.27 19:36:00 - [38] - Quote I think that the OP is probably trolling. Cite sources with links to industry media, or it didnt happen.
FeralShadow Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O. 47	Posted - 2012.01.27 19:42:00 - [39] - Quote EA used to be great... then they took an arrow to the --- dies
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 300	Posted - 2012.01.27 19:49:00 - [40] - Quote This says all I need to know about EA. I'm much more interested in what Bungie + Activision are doing with "Destiny" All GëíGêçGëí Ships \| GëíGêçGëí - sñÜpüÅpü«sÑçsªÖpü¬péópéñpâåpâá \| <-- Links to ShowInfo in-game FX7 - No Tax... No Rules... No Problem

Killer Gandry Shadow of the Pain 41	Posted - 2012.01.27 19:51:00 - [41] - Quote If you like single shooter games you might wanna try out a few EA games. When it comes to MMO's then EA is the worst choice for you. Just look at how they screwed over all those Earth & Beyond players. EA just doesn't have the stamina nor the inclination to have a MMO running for years while developing and nurturing it as soon as a somewhat competative concept comes along which they can't buy from it's owner and then mess up.
Vertisce Soritenshi Varion Galactic Tragedy. 989	Posted - 2012.01.27 19:51:00 - [42] - Quote Spineker wrote: Haha SWTOR was such a success... not. Wow...you have determined this when the game has been out a whole...month? You should also get your facts checked since SWTOR is breaking records in sales and first month subs. More successful than EvE I would say. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!!
Sebastian N Cain Aliastra Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2012.01.27 20:09:00 - [43] - Quote Metal Icarus wrote: After the first hour of playing command and conquer 4 i actually cried about how they ABSOLUTLEY RUINED THE GAME. EA is the absolute worst example of a game developer in modern history. They are like apple except without the success and creativeness. EA is the Nickleback of the game industry. While you are correct about how much EA sucks, there is Ubisoft as well, and Zynga is a promising upstart for becoming the worst of the worst. Makes you sometimes think whether there is some kind of achievement linked to be the biggest **** of all customer rapists calling themselves game developers. "You either need less science fiction or more medication." "Or less medication and more ammo!"
Meryl SinGarda Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team 314	Posted - 2012.01.27 20:57:00 - [44] - Quote That is the craziest thing I've ever heard. Although I've secretly dreamed of something like this, I don't think I'd give up my EVE character for some half-arsed EA MMO. Fly Safe, Die Hard As stated by a fellow player, Mara Rinn, "EVE is not an internet spaceships game. It's a game of politics, subterfuge, capitalism, empire building and trust."-á
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 753	Posted - 2012.01.27 21:05:00 - [45] - Quote Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: Spineker wrote: Haha SWTOR was such a success... not. Wow...you have determined this when the game has been out a whole...month? You should also get your facts checked since SWTOR is breaking records in sales and first month subs. More successful than EvE I would say. So you have determined that TOR is more successfull than EVE when the game has been out a whole.... month? Also, different playerbases. TOR = greasy kids who like big and thick lightsabers and need a storyline because they don't have the creativity to create their own in a sandbox. EVE = greasy adults who like big and thick blobs of other greasy adults shooting lasers at each other and lagging the whole thing to kingdom come. Totally different people, yo. EDIT: BY THE WAY, Star Trek Online had over one million active subscribers after the first month. And it had one of the worse MMO releases ever. The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 753	Posted - 2012.01.27 21:07:00 - [46] - Quote Metal Icarus wrote: EA is the Nickleback of the game industry. I.E they don't know what they are supposed to be, they suck very badly at what new things they attempt and their fans are only there so that we can have a group of people we unanimoulsy make fun off? The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 946	Posted - 2012.01.27 21:48:00 - [47] - Quote Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: Spineker wrote: Haha SWTOR was such a success... not. You should also get your facts checked since SWTOR is breaking records in sales and first month subs. More successful than EvE I would say. any SW ip will break records in presales and first month sales lets see what you say in 6 months when its f2p and EA stocks took a hit on the abysmal reviews of TOR, so you might take your own advice on fact checking The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Soon Shin Abyssal Heavy Industries Narwhals Ate My Duck 50	Posted - 2012.01.27 23:54:00 - [48] - Quote EA murdered the Command and Conquer Series. They screwed over many studios that they took in. Now the Battlefield series is becoming butchered by them. EA can kiss my ass and go die along with Activision and Greedy Bobby Kotick.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 222	Posted - 2012.01.27 23:59:00 - [49] - Quote Jafit McJafitson wrote: Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Anyone so utterly ******** to jump into an EA MMO should have his head checked. Thrice. Whatever the reward. Wheras anyone who plays Eve is perfectly well balanced and knows a good deal when they see one. I have played EA MMOs (and single player games) for years because I have some old friends sticking there. They all invariably suck, their maintenance sucks, their support sucks (some games DEMAND you pay overseas phone calls!), their "deliver too early and forget about that game" politic sucks. EA is where former good gaming companies go die an inglorious, slow death.
Gabriel Mangeiri Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates. 6	Posted - 2012.01.28 01:41:00 - [50] - Quote Skippermonkey wrote: Gabriel Mangeiri wrote: EVE isn't on a single server. It amuses me to no end how even some Eve players get this wrong. EVE is on Tranquility, so its one server however much you want to complicate it. It amuses me to no end how some Eve players think they are so smart, but just end up sounding like a smug jackass. Does being smarter than you make me smug? Certainly. I'm quite proud of the fact. Being intelligent has opened many doors in my life, even if it makes me a bit insufferable. Sarmatiko wrote: Gabriel Mangeiri wrote: EVE isn't on a single server. It amuses me to no end how even some Eve players get this wrong. Hello, Gabriel Mangeiri! On our "multi-sharded multi-server world" probably no one will find you, currently hidden on Nourvukaiken VII - Moon 18 - Ytiri Storage station in the Nourvukaiken system. And for sure one never bring suicide Tornado just to pop your capsule and prove that your point of view is totally wrong. Feel safe now What exactly is your point here? Are you trying to scare me? I haven't undocked Gabriel since I created him, and the first time I do, it will be to suicide and move to his clone to 9GI-FB. If you want to trek all the way out there to try and prove something, be my guest, big boy. The locals aren't too friendly, but that won't be my problem, now will it? Alpheias wrote: But you still log onto a single shard, Tranquility, which was the whole point. Gabriel proved to be unable to connect the dots which kenxi pointed out to him with a RL analogy. Exactly. Shard, not server. Saying it's "just semantics" is nothing more than an excuse that stupid people use. I'm well aware of what he meant, thank you. That doesn't change the fact that Tranquility is a server cluster, not a single machine. There is a difference, and it's a huge one. "Eve players are most definitely the "Jocks" of the metaphorical high-school that is the MMO landscape."-áGÇö Jerhboa

Alpheias Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard 435	Posted - 2012.01.28 02:01:00 - [51] - Quote Gabriel Mangeiri wrote: Alpheias wrote: But you still log onto a single shard, Tranquility, which was the whole point. Gabriel proved to be unable to connect the dots which kenxi pointed out to him with a RL analogy. Exactly. Shard, not server. Saying it's "just semantics" is nothing more than an excuse that stupid people use. I'm well aware of what he meant, thank you. That doesn't change the fact that Tranquility is a server cluster, not a single machine. There is a difference, and it's a huge one. Still, you are the one that is making an issue out of a non-issue, because even if I know that TQ is hosted at a data center in London, I really don't care if people choose to call it server, realm, shard or hamster box. And nor should you as you look stunningly and embarrassingly stupid for arguing semantics. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more
Gabriel Mangeiri Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates. 6	Posted - 2012.01.28 02:09:00 - [52] - Quote Alpheias wrote: Still, you are the one that is making an issue out of a non-issue, because even if I know that TQ is hosted at a data center in London, I really don't care if people choose to call it server, realm, shard or hamster box. And nor should you as you look stunningly and embarrassingly stupid for arguing semantics. I see. You're obviously assuming I'm anything other than apathetic regarding your perception of me. Please, let me take this chance to assure you that I honestly couldn't care less that you, as a human being, currently draw breath, let alone that you dislike me. Let me further assure you that until someone in a position of authority over the forum stops me, I'll continue to argue whatever niggling little details amuse me. Thank you for you time. "Eve players are most definitely the "Jocks" of the metaphorical high-school that is the MMO landscape."-áGÇö Jerhboa
Xearal SOL Industries Black Thorne Alliance 250	Posted - 2012.01.28 02:22:00 - [53] - Quote EA are good at business, but horrible for games. They messed up CnC4 so bad that I actually quit playing it. even though I really want to know the continued story. Even if it's crappy, which it is from what I read.
Mars Theran EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance 102	Posted - 2012.01.28 02:26:00 - [54] - Quote If EA didn't spend 5 years developing games based on what 500 idiots blithering away on the pre-release/pre-beta forums said, they might actually come up with something good. The plus side of that, is that whatever new MMO they are working on hasn't made it past the drawing board, so we shouldn't expect to see it for 5-10 years, and they'll probably cancel it half way through development, like half a dozen other games they've worked on recently. TIIP: The Incredible Invisible Poster
Alpheias Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard 435	Posted - 2012.01.28 02:44:00 - [55] - Quote Gabriel Mangeiri wrote: Alpheias wrote: Still, you are the one that is making an issue out of a non-issue, because even if I know that TQ is hosted at a data center in London, I really don't care if people choose to call it server, realm, shard or hamster box. And nor should you as you look stunningly and embarrassingly stupid for arguing semantics. I see. You're obviously assuming I'm anything other than apathetic regarding your perception of me. Please, let me take this chance to assure you that I honestly couldn't care less that you, as a human being, currently draw breath, let alone that you dislike me. Let me further assure you that until someone in a position of authority over the forum stops me, I'll continue to argue whatever niggling little details amuse me. Thank you for you time. Not at all. I just disagree with you, that is all. And please do, I am sure it would amuse everyone as you argue semantics. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 10	Posted - 2012.01.28 03:07:00 - [56] - Quote Sarmatiko wrote: Show me that idiot who will switch EVE account to some nothing-to-do-after-one-month EA "MMO" like SWTOR or TSW I would do it then ebay my character in the new EA MMO because I don't give a **** about violating EA TOS and EULA. That way I don't play eve or ea's new MMO, double win PS: I would never violate CCP and eve's tos and eula etc.
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 10	Posted - 2012.01.28 03:08:00 - [57] - Quote Xearal wrote: EA are good at business, but horrible for games. They messed up CnC4 so bad that I actually quit playing it. even though I really want to know the continued story. Even if it's crappy, which it is from what I read. They are not good a business, they have not made profit in 4 years and swtor is sinking faster than titanic.
Caellach Marellus Nephtys Ventures inc 413	Posted - 2012.01.28 03:26:00 - [58] - Quote Liam Mirren wrote: No franchise they ever touched stayed on top. Their EA sports franchises are still doing amazing. Dead Space 2 carried on strong from Dead Space 1, unfortunately the Sims series is still amazingly strong (where I wish it would f##k off and die) Need for Speed is still as popular as ever. And for the horrible horrible way they destroyed C&C, they still have their logo on Westwood's two best titles. RA2 and E:BFD. Unfortunately they won't bring back Road Rash, bastards.
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 10	Posted - 2012.01.28 03:28:00 - [59] - Quote Caellach Marellus wrote: Liam Mirren wrote: No franchise they ever touched stayed on top. Their EA sports franchises are still doing amazing. Dead Space 2 carried on strong from Dead Space 1, unfortunately the Sims series is still amazingly strong (where I wish it would f##k off and die) Need for Speed is still as popular as ever. And for the horrible horrible way they destroyed C&C, they still have their logo on Westwood's two best titles. RA2 and E:BFD. Unfortunately they won't bring back Road Rash, bastards. Only sports does well and that is because of licenses and underhanded business practices. Their sport games are garbage. I'd take PES 12 over FIFA 12 anyday of the week. Also dead space was better than the sequel, sims is a joke now and need for speed is trash. Red alert beats RA2!
Ocih Space Mermaids 70	Posted - 2012.01.28 03:33:00 - [60] - Quote Wot I Think wrote: So the folks over at EA Games told me about their brave new concept that will shatter the MMO market. "Transferable Progress". If your a 8 year EVE Veteran EA Games plans on calculating your previous investment in EVE at a half-time rate, and giving you 4 years of experience in their upcoming MMO release. EVE is not alone in this defilement, EA has a neatly defined table for each MMORPG on the market, and plans on making players "veterans, day one". Doesn't this constitute some violation of intellectualism ? SOURCE: Game Design Student with a EA-Day Pass So Ocih will soon have an EA Credit score. I'm sure the RMT clowns will be jizzing in thier seats. Now they can cross farm games.



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