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Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.27 16:03:00 -
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1. Remove faction standing penalties from missions against factions, or remove faction missions from normal mission agents altogether. 2. Add bounty to drones and faction enemies, reduce loot if needed. 3. Make it so that hisec agents would not send players to lowsec.
This would make eve much more fun! |
Xuse Senna
Crytec Enterprises SRS.
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Posted - 2012.01.27 16:05:00 -
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3. Make it so that hisec agents would not send players to lowsec.
Lol :) D3 |
Maluscious Melody
Frequent Moose
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Posted - 2012.01.27 16:48:00 -
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Fail troll |
Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.27 17:04:00 -
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Maluscious Melody wrote:Fail troll There is no trolling here. Im tired of declining missions that send me to lowsec, are against other factions or rogue drones. |
Kiwis23
Kiwis Corp
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Posted - 2012.01.27 17:08:00 -
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Vito Antonio wrote:Maluscious Melody wrote:Fail troll There is no trolling here. Im tired of declining missions that send me to lowsec, are against other factions or rogue drones. Answer is simple - change an agent. |
Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.27 17:28:00 -
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Kiwis23 wrote:Answer is simple - change an agent.
This. Think about it - then just do it. |
Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.27 17:35:00 -
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Changing an agent doesn't solve 1&2. |
XXSketchxx
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.01.27 18:07:00 -
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I'm sure this thread with an exclamation mark at the end of the title will entice them quite significantly. |
Triana
Bulls On Parade
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Posted - 2012.01.27 18:28:00 -
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Stupid thought, maybe run for opposing faction once in a while.... just saying |
Orlacc
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.27 19:27:00 -
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Begone elf! |
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Spineker
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Posted - 2012.01.27 19:35:00 -
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Wish I had some rum. I though that was just as informative as the thread and more entertaining. |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness EntroPraetorian Aegis
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Posted - 2012.01.27 19:52:00 -
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Massively Single Player Role Playing Game How may I drug you with drugs? |
SexTrader
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.27 20:03:00 -
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I think mining would be more suited to your playing style. You could go wherever you want, mine whatever you want, and you won't even take a standing hit. |
Spineker
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Posted - 2012.01.27 20:19:00 -
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Plus you get to shoot those BARs Big Ass Rocks. Whooweeee |
Cathy Drall
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:10:00 -
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Vito Antonio wrote:1. Remove faction standing penalties from missions against factions, or remove faction missions from normal mission agents altogether. 2. Add bounty to drones and faction enemies, reduce loot if needed. 3. Make it so that hisec agents would not send players to lowsec.
This would make eve much more fun! L4s hardly give faction missions anymore, that should be a relief. They do give drone missions, unfortunately. I do hope CCP replaces drone goo for bounties, also to stop the influx of drone minerals on the market.
What lowsec is concerned, just find another agent further away from lowsec. |
Sir Livingston
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.27 23:21:00 -
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I believe the OP meant to say this........
Dear CCP, Please adjust the game mechanics so that it will do exactly what I want it to do when I want it to happen. k thanks bye
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Hans Momaki
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.27 23:58:00 -
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Cathy Drall wrote:Vito Antonio wrote:1. Remove faction standing penalties from missions against factions, or remove faction missions from normal mission agents altogether. 2. Add bounty to drones and faction enemies, reduce loot if needed. 3. Make it so that hisec agents would not send players to lowsec.
This would make eve much more fun! L4s hardly give faction missions anymore, that should be a relief.
Made my Day, lol.
Anyway.
1. Faction missions have to be present in Highsec. Removing them would be a shi**y idea. Standing hits could be removed, I agree. (How do Gallente know that I Have blown up 3000k battleships anyway? I killed them all, no one left to report!?)
2. Yeah, Bounty on top of allready stupidly overprized tags, good idea :D not that balanced, but okey. (u can't cut tag supply either, cause it's allready low :() Drone poo has to go. I agree here.
3. There are so goddamn many highsec agents which will not send you too highsec. However, you won't find one in 0.5 systems I guess. But 0.6 is still okey, so move to another agent if you want to avoid lowsec.
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MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
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Posted - 2012.01.28 00:31:00 -
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Never mind you are in want to ignore a game mechanic, do what I did, just say 'F-it' to two factions and grind away. I know I left a battleship in this station. Wait, you can put ships in Station Containers? ****! I just trashed them. |
Lady Aja
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Posted - 2012.01.28 04:36:00 -
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Vito Antonio wrote:1. Remove faction standing penalties from missions against factions, or remove faction missions from normal mission agents altogether. 2. Add bounty to drones and faction enemies, reduce loot if needed. 3. Make it so that hisec agents would not send players to lowsec.
This would make eve much more fun!
**** you... if i cant have more anti faction missions you cant have less. int he mean time i will continue to farm anti faction missions for every single isk i can get till ccp allows me to do anti faction only missions.
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Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
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Posted - 2012.01.28 05:08:00 -
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Vito Antonio wrote:Changing an agent doesn't solve 1&2.
Actually it solves 1. Go mission for Interbus. |
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Joan DuClare
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.28 08:07:00 -
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Cathy Drall wrote: L4s hardly give faction missions anymore, that should be a relief. They do give drone missions, unfortunately. I do hope CCP replaces drone goo for bounties, also to stop the influx of drone minerals on the market.
What lowsec is concerned, just find another agent further away from lowsec.
Not sure whether you're being serious here or not. Faction missions are still alive and kicking, though, and very much so in Gallente and Minmatar space.
This is what I got from my agent in minmatar space. Here's the rundown : 136 missions total 45 anti-faction 91 everything else.
That's 1 every 3 missions, or 33%.
45 anti-faction missions: 1x Are you Receiving ? 8x In the midst of deadspace 6x Mordu's Folly 5x the Mordu's headhunters 3x pot and kettle 6x smash the supplier 7x surprise surprise 9x war situation
Other than that, yeah, high sec agents sending folks to low sec for the same high sec reward just doesn't make any sense. Same applies to x faction agents in y faction space offering you missions against faction y, which is going to make your life there difficult in the long run.
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Gaitrie
MagmaTech Industries
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Posted - 2012.01.28 09:56:00 -
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I think the agents are fine - the low sec missions I like - gets the hard pumping faster :-) when you are going in low sec system that is crowded and do a mission.
What I want to see is the ability to see if you done agents mission for that agent. I do missions on and off and then I forget where I left of, which career agent did I do, or which cosmos, data center agent have I done already.
As for the OP list I would leave it like it is. Maybe yes on bounty on drones. >>> Mine is Bigger than Yours ! <<< |
Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.28 10:19:00 -
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Lady Aja wrote:Vito Antonio wrote:1. Remove faction standing penalties from missions against factions, or remove faction missions from normal mission agents altogether. 2. Add bounty to drones and faction enemies, reduce loot if needed. 3. Make it so that hisec agents would not send players to lowsec.
This would make eve much more fun! **** you... if i cant have more anti faction missions you cant have less. int he mean time i will continue to farm anti faction missions for every single isk i can get till ccp allows me to do anti faction only missions.
Well then it would be better if they simply separated anti faction missions to new type of agents. A win/win for everyone. |
Riehn
Far Horizons
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Posted - 2012.01.28 11:10:00 -
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Maybe they should just add moar missions like dread pirate and be more creative about it. |
Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.28 14:22:00 -
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Vito Antonio wrote:Changing an agent doesn't solve 1&2.
But it will make the points on the standings hit and drone missions irrelevant, because if you use agents properly you won't be getting drone missions or missions you don't want to run.
Each agent has a pool of missions and furthermore not all missions from that pool have the same probability. Furthermore there are things you can do to chage the probability of the missions in the pool.
Put all that together and you reach a point where, in essence you will be running the missions you want to over 90% of the time, and the 4 hour timer to decline missions becomes more than enough to decline the odd mission which you are not willing to run.
So - Find an agent with a mission pool that's good for you, run missions with that agent till you come to a balance that works for you, and just get on with it. |
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.28 14:57:00 -
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Why should there be no consequences for your actions? If you shoot one faction, your standing with them should go down. If two factions are at war, missioning for one should pit you against the other. I don't see why that should be taken out, unless it's merely "I want no inconveniences or challenges to my ISK-stacking." |
Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.28 15:02:00 -
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OllieNorth wrote:Why should there be no consequences for your actions? If you shoot one faction, your standing with them should go down. If two factions are at war, missioning for one should pit you against the other. I don't see why that should be taken out, unless it's merely "I want no inconveniences or challenges to my ISK-stacking." If you want inconveniences or challenges to your ISK-stacking you are a failure of human evolution. |
SexTrader
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:59:00 -
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Vito Antonio wrote:OllieNorth wrote:Why should there be no consequences for your actions? If you shoot one faction, your standing with them should go down. If two factions are at war, missioning for one should pit you against the other. I don't see why that should be taken out, unless it's merely "I want no inconveniences or challenges to my ISK-stacking." If you want inconveniences or challenges to your ISK-stacking you are a failure of human evolution.
Uh, No. If you want the whole world to change just for you and want everything handed to you on a silver platter, YOU are the failure of human evolution. Challenges in life are what allow humans to advance as a species.
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Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:40:00 -
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SexTrader wrote:Uh, No. If you want the whole world to change just for you and want everything handed to you on a silver platter, YOU are the failure of human evolution. Challenges in life are what allow humans to advance as a species. Go jump out of a window and try not to die, then tell us how that challenge will advance you as a specie. |
Gaitrie
MagmaTech Industries
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:43:00 -
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OllieNorth wrote:Why should there be no consequences for your actions? If you shoot one faction, your standing with them should go down. If two factions are at war, missioning for one should pit you against the other. I don't see why that should be taken out, unless it's merely "I want no inconveniences or challenges to my ISK-stacking."
Agree - When I started Eve I did only Minmatar missions and all missions - so my other factions standing went down fast. Now with more knowledge I am able to do the mission 'the right way' and my standing is now better and better.
There is cause and effect in Eve. If money making is easy and has no consequences then why play the game at all. One plays a game to see if he/she is able to take on the challenge the game provides.
So if you do not like the faction penalties between agents I would say do not run missions but start doing PVP... PVP has no faction penalty (as far as I know) >>> Mine is Bigger than Yours ! <<< |
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SexTrader
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.28 22:13:00 -
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Vito Antonio wrote:SexTrader wrote:Uh, No. If you want the whole world to change just for you and want everything handed to you on a silver platter, YOU are the failure of human evolution. Challenges in life are what allow humans to advance as a species. Go jump out of a window and try not to die, then tell us how that challenge will advance you as a specie.
I might find out I could fly, but you'd never know. Just stay in your little crib and you won't get hurt. |
Lady Aja
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Posted - 2012.01.29 03:06:00 -
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Joan DuClare wrote:Cathy Drall wrote: L4s hardly give faction missions anymore, that should be a relief. They do give drone missions, unfortunately. I do hope CCP replaces drone goo for bounties, also to stop the influx of drone minerals on the market.
What lowsec is concerned, just find another agent further away from lowsec.
Not sure whether you're being serious here or not. Faction missions are still alive and kicking, though, and very much so in Gallente and Minmatar space. This is what I got from my agent in minmatar space. Here's the rundown : 136 missions total 45 anti-faction 91 everything else. That's 1 every 3 missions, or 33%.
i my self will go weeks without a anti faction mission. thats why i now have 6 chars farming for anti faction missions and nothingelse. |
Ireland VonVicious
Gurista Saints Assassin Confederacy
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Posted - 2012.01.29 05:39:00 -
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Some systems have more than one L4 agent for the same corp.
Other areas have 3-4 of them all within three jumps.
Both of these can be found far enough away from low sec to avoid it completely.
So your complaints are just garbage. It's purely you being lazy.
If they did change it you personally would be no better off. Everyone could mission a little easier. The cost of items would go up when everyone makes isk a little faster. You'd spend the same amount of time for the same amount of product, posibly a bit more time as the easier the aspect of the game is to do the more people do it and the less it is worth. (( basic supply and demand ))
The drones will probly get the change soon enough which will make prices rise and again total gain is nothing. (( expect to see a loss due to 0.0 aspects of drone farming for minerals ))
Major factions being given bounties would get more people running them and more people would end up with only half of high sec that is not shoot on site. This may or may not be a bad thing based on personal opinions. Tags would drop in value a small amount and again isk would devalued.
I'm very glad to see the entire thread flamming on you over this one. Good luck on your next. |
Lijhal
Innoruuks Wrath
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Posted - 2012.01.29 15:48:00 -
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Vito Antonio wrote:1. Remove faction standing penalties from missions against factions, or remove faction missions from normal mission agents altogether. 2. Add bounty to drones and faction enemies, reduce loot if needed. 3. Make it so that hisec agents would not send players to lowsec.
This would make eve much more fun!
how about:
1. no more lvl4 missions in high sec
2. no more lvl4 missions for players in npc corps
This would make eve much much more fun!
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Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.29 16:00:00 -
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Lijhal wrote:
how about:
1. no more lvl4 missions in high sec
2. no more lvl4 missions for players in npc corps
This would make eve much much more fun!
If you think that removing lvl 4 missions from hisec will make more carebears venture into lowsec for you to shoot at you are wrong. Carebears will unsubcribe therefor less money for eve developers > lower quality patches and content. You are the one who will end up worse. |
Lijhal
Innoruuks Wrath
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Posted - 2012.01.29 18:20:00 -
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Vito Antonio wrote:If you think that removing lvl 4 missions from hisec will make more carebears venture into lowsec for you to shoot at you are wrong.
who said i want carebears in low sec? noone! they can stay in high sec if they're afraid of loosing their faction ships to lowsec residents...
i for one like to run missions with my pvp ship and i dont have any problems with it if someone is joining me which i can shoot afterwards
Vito Antonio wrote:Carebears will unsubcribe therefor less money for eve developers > lower quality patches and content.
i prefer an elitist and long staying community which understands the pricinple of "risk vs reward" rather then isk farming bears which are focused on one thing only: raising their wallets to buy faction/ds/officer modules and post on the forums how much isk they are doing in a hour .....
crucible showed one thing clearly: ccp can do things pretty right without having subcriptions in the millions like other mmo's... so i dont think that would make a bad impact if we loose some of the bears... why? see next anwser
Vito Antonio wrote:You are the one who will end up worse.
believe me... not really, b/c i know what happends if most of the carebears are gone.... more isk by market pvp for me you know!
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Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.29 18:25:00 -
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Vito Antonio wrote:If you want inconveniences or challenges to your ISK-stacking you are a failure of human evolution.
Hmm... so you want an ISK printing button with no challenges?
Hello kitty online ----> Thataway
Careful though it might be too much of a challenge for you.
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