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Tekota
The Freighter Factory
167
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:37:00 -
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Further 3m sent to make up to what was apparently the correct meme in the first place and to prove that I am without a shadow of a doubt, a LH alt.
Albeit a more wrinkly one.
With longer skirts trousers. |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
286
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Posted - 2012.01.29 00:18:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:I support this product and/or service and/or scam.
Supporters send isk. Just saying.
@everyone who sent isk: New improved [T2H8R] shares are now in your wallets. Spread the love. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
J0HN RAMB0
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.01.29 00:37:00 -
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If you want to proof that this is legit you have to use a third party to hold the ISK. The third party would also have to buy the BPO and destroy it. The BPO has to be destroyed by killing a ship that has the BPO in its cargohold. You can then use the API to proof that the BPO was destroyed. |
Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.01.29 10:25:00 -
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J0HN RAMB0 wrote:If you want to proof that this is legit you have to use a third party to hold the ISK. The third party would also have to buy the BPO and destroy it.
Why? Lauren has held a few bil in public money before and it is highly unlikely that this scheme will ever end up with her holding more than 5 or 6 bil, an amount she could easily get her hands on if she ran a straightforward bond. API pull for the destruction is a good idea though.
In the unlikely event that this programme becomes sufficiently popular that Lauren is so flooded with isk that the figures get into the double figure billions at any one time, I would be happy to hold anything above a fixed cap if that would be felt to be useful. |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
286
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Posted - 2012.01.29 20:47:00 -
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Yeah, no worries on passing either blocks of Isk or collateral (to usual bond terms) if by some miracle I end up getting inundated with purchases.
Destroying via ganking a ship with it in the hold is doable but runs the risk of losing it before it is destroyed. If that were to happen how would you expect me to prove that it wasn't a staged gank by one of my unknown alts?
The thought behind the frapsing of trashing it was that it was the easiest way to ensure and prove the destruction. The basic outline of the fraps footage would include an open local window (the BPO is most likely to be located in Jita) with only the BPO in the hangar, a show info being performed followed by the trash and confirmation box.
One alternative I had considered involved a live stream of the client with a public chat channel open that any interested parties could join and speak in to accompany the fraps. That would, however, require me to sort out my connection or talk someone else into doing it and uploading some fraps after the event. I like the idea of a live stream since it would open up the "I was there" side of things as well. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
Dethmourne Silvermane
RAD BROMANCE
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Posted - 2012.01.29 22:16:00 -
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Lauren Hellfury wrote:Yeah, no worries on passing either blocks of Isk or collateral (to usual bond terms) if by some miracle I end up getting inundated with purchases. Destroying via ganking a ship with it in the hold is doable but runs the risk of losing it before it is destroyed. If that were to happen how would you expect me to prove that it wasn't a staged gank by one of my unknown alts? The thought behind the frapsing of trashing it was that it was the easiest way to ensure and prove the destruction. The basic outline of the fraps footage would include an open local window (the BPO is most likely to be located in Jita) with only the BPO in the hangar, a show info being performed followed by the trash and confirmation box. One alternative I had considered involved a live stream of the client with a public chat channel open that any interested parties could join and speak in to accompany the fraps. That would, however, require me to sort out my connection or talk someone else into doing it and uploading some fraps after the event. I like the idea of a live stream since it would open up the "I was there" side of things as well.
I can think of a good way to gank them, but you'd have to get them to a safe-enough location first. |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
286
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Posted - 2012.01.29 23:05:00 -
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Well, my first thought was to tripple account it.
1) Orca to move the BPO in corp hangar with a bunch of shuttles in the SMA. Sets up in a proper safe in a quiet high-sec system. 2) Sacrificial pilot in shuttle grabs from the corp hangar. 3) Main pew pews it to death. 4) Sacrificial pilot gets into new shuttle. 5) If BPO not destroyed sacrificial pilot picks it out the can and awaits destruction. 6) Repeat sreps 3-6 as required. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
Jurinak
Galcom Omega
0
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Posted - 2012.01.30 10:36:00 -
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- thrashing some shitload BPOs like "foxfire rocket thrash" - he guys now lets buy some good BPOs - collect a few Hundred Bill.
Profit \o/
nice try, so stupid that it will work, for sure because a lot of people think that T2 BPOs are a bad thing and they a stupid like hell
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Aggressive Nutmeg
111
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Posted - 2012.02.07 06:08:00 -
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Lauren Hellfury wrote:What is it?The fund provides a means for players to group together in order to acquire T2 BPOs for the sole purpose of their removal from the game. This is achieved by simply buying any available T2 BPO from the market and trashing it. The trashing of all T2 BPOs is captured using a screen grabber and the video is then edited and uploaded to youtube. Top Why do this?The existence of T2 BPOs within EVE online is viewed by many as an abhorrent anomaly. These people believe that the T2 BPOs unduly and unfairly influence the profit available to and the viability of invention. There are others who simply feel that they are an outdated resource that should be removed. There are repeated calls for CCP to remove them from the game via various proposed mechanics from a simple deletion from the database through mutations on spawning Isk, utilising Isk seized from RMTers to purchase at market rate or an arbitrary fixed price. This is unlikely to ever happen. The problem is that T2 BPOs are expensive and many people will never acquire enough isk at any one point in time to be able to buy them. This is where the fund comes in. By selling shares belonging to the in-game Corporation capital is built up to enable us to remove these items from the game on behalf of the players that want to see this happen. How does it work?Very simply, you send Isk to me in multiples of 1M and I will return to you an equivalent number of shares. You are then free to do with the shares what you wish. The corp ticker is [T2H8R] so if you know anyone that is a T2 Hater then send some their way - or even better, encourage them to participate. The previous thread, here, is now defunct and was a more humourous approach to things. But since I've received over 1.1B in donations to this fund I thought it only right to do it properly. You can find more information on this including a brief bit on how T2 BPOs affect things over here on a sub-page of my blog. Please help spread the word and let's get the first BPO trashed asap! Regards, <---- My nonsense alarm just went off. But...Aah... too lazy to argue the point... Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom Investments
0
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Posted - 2012.02.07 07:38:00 -
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You know, this is a win-win.
Lauren destroys T2BPOs-Win
Laura Acquires T2BPOs through public donations-Win
Either we help rid EVE of 'ebil' T2BPOs, or help fund an epic scam.
As was said, it's so stupid it will/should/could work.
Whether it is will be a result I'm loooking forward to with great anticipation.
Either way, good job Lauren, I like the ambition. Cynical Troll-ish Psuedo-Dutch Guys Rule. |
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Cash Godness
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2012.02.07 15:58:00 -
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a.I do have T2 BPOs, easy to check by visiting my threads. I will keep at least one for myself and never sell it, so you can't destroy it. YOU FAILED ! b. You're a scammer, trying to fool peeps. Your plan is obvious and it got defaced. YOU FAILED ! Either way, YOU FAILED ! |
Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.02.07 16:25:00 -
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Cash Godness wrote:a.I do have T2 BPOs, easy to check by visiting my threads. I will keep at least one for myself and never sell it, so you can't destroy it. YOU FAILED ! b. You're a scammer, trying to fool peeps. Your plan is obvious and it got defaced. YOU FAILED ! Either way, YOU FAILED !
At reading the thread ...
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Therese Ishihara
IT Minerals Industries
1
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Posted - 2012.02.07 16:26:00 -
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I look forward to seeing how this scam plays out. |
Angsty Teenager
Sinister Elite
40
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:41:00 -
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Cash Godness wrote:a.I do have T2 BPOs, easy to check by visiting my threads. I will keep at least one for myself and never sell it, so you can't destroy it. YOU FAILED ! b. You're a scammer, trying to fool peeps. Your plan is obvious and it got defaced. YOU FAILED ! Either way, YOU FAILED !
This person is upset and doesn't understand humor. |
Rich Girl
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.04.13 20:44:00 -
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Tl;dr, is this a scam? |
Daniel L'Siata
Echelon Conflict Resolution. Psychotic Tendencies.
100
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Posted - 2012.04.14 12:03:00 -
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You people really suck at understanding economics if you think T2 BPO's give you huge margins.
Do you have any idea how long it would take to pay off the print? Hint, it's a huge number, and that's before you even start making profit on it. You're running at a loss for YEARS. I don't want to set the world on fire... Just you.
Psychotic Tendencies is now recruiting skilled PvP pilots of all TZ's. |
Red Teufel
Blackened Skies THE UNTHINKABLES
48
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Posted - 2012.04.14 23:35:00 -
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screenshot or it never happened. |
Brock Nelson
573
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Posted - 2012.04.15 00:18:00 -
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I like to think this venture is hugely successful based on the reaction of the last few posters... Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
42
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Posted - 2012.04.15 00:24:00 -
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Daniel L'Siata wrote:You people really suck at understanding economics if you think T2 BPO's give you huge margins.
Do you have any idea how long it would take to pay off the print? Hint, it's a huge number, and that's before you even start making profit on it. You're running at a loss for YEARS.
T2 BPOs were originally given out for free |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
46
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Posted - 2012.04.15 00:35:00 -
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Liberty Eternal wrote:Daniel L'Siata wrote:You people really suck at understanding economics if you think T2 BPO's give you huge margins.
Do you have any idea how long it would take to pay off the print? Hint, it's a huge number, and that's before you even start making profit on it. You're running at a loss for YEARS. T2 BPOs were originally given out for free
This, ROI on T2BPO is instant and astronimical. SO it's about 100 billion in 1 second best ROI of anything in eve.
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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
487
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Posted - 2012.04.15 20:07:00 -
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why not do something with the bpos to make money for the share holders + the rest goes to buying another t2bpo.
how would this help? lets say you get the first t2 bpo for say, scourge t2 ammo production starts, 20% of the profit goes back to investors, 80% goes back to corp wallet for new t2bpo. once you have the maxed production for your character (11?) your trash the first BPO, or do w/e to kill it and the 12 bpo goes into production
this method would A possible get people involved for the chance of making isk B make you isk C make the corp isk to get more bpos faster
imo the ends justify the means. i might put in some isk just to be a part of an epic scam and or event. |
Katalci
Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp
73
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Posted - 2012.05.04 17:37:00 -
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I will be very disappointed if this is not a scam. |
Tradelita
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.04 17:46:00 -
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Liberty Eternal wrote:T2 BPOs, Minerals, Datacores, LP goods, officer mods and a ton of other stuff are given out for "free"
FTFY. |
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
226
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Posted - 2012.05.04 21:06:00 -
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Daniel L'Siata wrote:You people really suck at understanding economics if you think T2 BPO's give you huge margins.
Do you have any idea how long it would take to pay off the print? Hint, it's a huge number, and that's before you even start making profit on it. You're running at a loss for YEARS.
By that standard, all investments are losses.
Which they're not.
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Mya ElleTerego
The Hull Miners Union
22
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:45:00 -
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Im pretty sure Ms hellfury wouldn't scam me, that being said. Im in for a bil. Id like to hit the t2 bpo owners with some elephant wang.
Btw: For those of you with an iq under 80, this will not hurt bpo owners. All this will do is limit their effect on the market. This will even the playing field for the inventors. So what if the last ishtar bpo is now worth 2 trillion isk. It doesnt mean that they can now sell billion isk ishtars. It means x amt of ishtars are no longer available for uncompetitive prices. Inventors will fix the market, just look at t2 cap rechargers, and how they were pre invention.
Good luck Ms hellfury. |
Mya ElleTerego
The Hull Miners Union
22
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:58:00 -
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Esan Vartesa wrote:Daniel L'Siata wrote:You people really suck at understanding economics if you think T2 BPO's give you huge margins.
Do you have any idea how long it would take to pay off the print? Hint, it's a huge number, and that's before you even start making profit on it. You're running at a loss for YEARS. By that standard, all investments are losses. Which they're not.
I keep hearing this absolutely ******** comment, about how investments, and dividends / profits are recieved off them. Its not like you bought machinery thats going to wear out, and in 10 months its worthless. If anything they never stop raising in value, with inflation, and random acct quit / bans. I mean damn its like having a rare baseball card, that pays you weekly, but still goes up in value, would be nice if we had those in real life.
TLDR: YOU DO NOT LOSE YOUR ASSET, IT JUST MAKES YOU MONEY! WHEN YOU TIRE OF SAID ASSET, SELL IT FOR MORE THAN YOU PAID FOR IT! |
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