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Scoti
Caldari
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.11.04 00:57:00 -
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Edited by: Scoti on 04/11/2007 00:58:21
Have a bit of a dilemma here. I started out as Caldari special forces. Hated the way the caldri ships looked like and straight of the bat started training for gallente medium ships. I had skill plan for all the basics that went into that, about two months long.
My plan was to train for battlecruisers (moving on to battleships in the far future) for my normal pvp ship and then train for caldari interceptors to make use of my missle bombardment level 5 so i have a kind of specialty ship.
Thing is, after browsing through the skills need for tech 2 guns on the battlecruisers im going to have to train a hell of alot in small blaster specialization. So my question is, shall i just forget the crow and train for the taranis so i dont waste the skills points im going to devote into small blasters and waste missle bombardment level 5 (500,000 skill points!) or waste the small turret specialization skill points so that i can go for crow which i hear is the best of the interceptors ( like the way it looks too :P ) ?
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Delnas
White-Noise
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2007.11.04 01:24:00 -
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Crow is expensive, but easier to fly. Still, you won't be killing much with it.
Taranis does more DPS, is cheaper, but a bit harder to fly.
I'd go with a Taranis since you'll be dying a lot.
Might also think about the other two Gal/Cal cepters since your new.
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Posted - 2007.11.04 01:42:00 -
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Missle bombardment level 5 any use on a crow?
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Acinonyx Jubatus
Minmatar
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.04 01:50:00 -
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Better missile range, bout it, it's flight time I believe, the other missile range skill is projection.
Do the math when sitting in and fitted with your ship, go to modules on the show info, down to the missile type, show info and multiply the velocity by the flight time(or visa versa) max missile range.
You have to consider movement/travel too.
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Scoti's alt
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Posted - 2007.11.04 01:53:00 -
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Oh yeah im aware of what it does.... but if you were training for a inty would you think "damn missle bombardment level 5 would go real nice with that crow"
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FOFOFOF
CRAPSTORM
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Posted - 2007.11.04 01:57:00 -
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missile bombardment 5 allow you to train for bombs too...
think about it...
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Acinonyx Jubatus
Minmatar
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.04 01:57:00 -
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...You're "complaining" your interceptor and anything else that uses missiles gets more range?
It's also a good skill for bombers, bomb wise, it's the pre-req for bomb deployment, however bombers are a totally different species and direction.
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Scoti
Caldari
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.11.04 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Scoti on 04/11/2007 02:09:30
Huh? I'm not complaining about anything.... never flown in an interceptor. Was just asking if the skill that i gained at creation (missle bombardment level 5) is of any practical use to the crow, if not ill train for the gallente type instead. I was thinking of the cov-ops as well... never made the connection with bombs... something more to think about . 
EDIT: Should i be posting in the skills forum?
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FOFOFOF
CRAPSTORM
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Posted - 2007.11.04 02:12:00 -
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yes it helps, will give more range to your missile, better than that, more lifetime too when your missile is hunting some fast target...
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Acinonyx Jubatus
Minmatar
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.04 02:13:00 -
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Edited by: Acinonyx Jubatus on 04/11/2007 02:14:12
 Originally by: Scoti
Edited by: Scoti on 04/11/2007 02:09:30
Huh? I'm not complaining about anything.... never flown in an interceptor. Was just asking if the skill that i gained at creation (missle bombardment level 5) is of any practical use to the crow, if not ill train for the gallente type instead. I was thinking of the cov-ops as well... never made the connection with bombs... something more to think about .
EDIT: Should i be posting in the skills forum?
Never said you were actually complaining like... well I can probably list a lot of examples, just couldn't think of the word to us, sounded you were bummed out and thought it was totally useless, it's not. However it will be technically if you abandon caldari/missiles/bombs totally.
And I'd assume either section would be useful, both have their differences in knowledge.
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Polly Prissypantz
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Posted - 2007.11.04 03:20:00 -
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Since you're training primarily for Gallente gunboats, I'd say stick to the Taranis. Training missile skills just for the Crow seems a waste, especially since your focus is gunboats.
That said, the Crow is generally a better inty than the Taranis thanks to higher speed. Remember, your primary role in an inty is tackling. DPS doesn't really matter unless you're soloing.
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Andreya
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.11.04 08:41:00 -
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didnt read the whole thread, but i may be able to help
the crow and taranis are completely different ships with an entirely different approach with their combat.
a crow will stay out at 20+km and just keep the target pointed, but now webbed, crows probably have the highest survivability of all ship in eve. (circumstancial of course) but in general, you wont be webbing the target, wich if often needed. crows need to be fitted with some expensive stuff if you dont want to loose them left and right, because other intys who catch a crow, will usually kill it.
that being said, crows are meant for tackling things cruiser and above... in general... crow does something like 70 dps i think, wich isnt a lot, but can slowly kill cruisers if found away from gates and stations.
a taranis... well.... this thing hurts more than most assault frigates, and me than any other inty... by far... i think i got a gank fitted taranis doing like 220 dps.. but, thats point blank. and if your victim decides to turn his gun and web on you... your pretty screwed :) ... a normal fitted taranis will in general be slower than other intys. but, it looks damn cool. and if you can get within range of any other inty... its dead
put it this way... IF a well fitted rifter can get an inty within range, it will pretty much be able to kill any (general fitted) inty exCEPT a taranis :P
both ships are cool. but taranis's are meaner :P and in MY opinion need a little more brains and skill to fly then the crow :P (no offense to crow pilots out there )
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation
Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.04 09:03:00 -
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Well, for perspective, I got BBQ'd tonight by 3 faction fit crows and a heretic.
Liang
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Delnas
White-Noise
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2007.11.04 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Andreya
i got a gank fitted taranis doing like 220 dps.
Rails are king here. More DPS then Standard Missiles for your Cepter vs Cepter, enough tracking to hit a frig while orbiting 3km/s, no fear of webs, and insanely more survivability then with blasters. More then enough DPS to kill frigates (aside from AFs), enough DPS w/ rats help to kill AFs, T1 Cruisers, and those rare Battle Cruisers whose pilots just ain't sure what they are doing in EVE.
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White-Noise
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Car Wars
The Coalition Of Buccaneers
Mercenary Services
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Posted - 2007.11.04 11:30:00 -
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Taranis for close range kamikaze:
high: 3x light neutron II with void
med: 1mn mwd, web, scram
low: damage control II, mapc, 200mm plate
2 armor ammount rigs. 2x warrior II drones
lets you laugh at most inties when you get them close, you have 880 structure and 2000 ish armor, its a blast, now just sit back and passive tank into hull. Can engage most cruisers. This thing shines in structure tanking.
Crow is one of the best inties for scouting and never getting hit. Zoom around at 8000m/s plus with a nice faction fit, dps is low. But your nearly invicible.
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mama guru
Gallente
Corp 1 Allstars
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.04 14:02:00 -
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Missile bombardment is useful for stealthbombers of any race. so technically its not wasted if you go for gallente.
Both intys are good, but id get the taranis because it better suits my taste. The crow is alot easier to fly however
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